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Posted January 12, 2016
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zeogold: What, no entry for me, the wizard of wordplay? I'd happily puzzle any opponent into the ground.
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yogsloth: Well Zeo, I admit you're reasonably fixated on one issue, and may technically qualify to participate, but somehow "puzzle solver" just doesn't seem like it belongs on the same stage as "kiddie porn connoisseur" or "flat-earther gender fascist".

Unless you're of the subset of Christians (like much of my family) who can calmly and reasonably explain to you that the entire universe is 6000 years old and the Devil created geology, radiology, astronomy, physics, etc. In which, case, get on the stage, Dr. Dino!
Hold on there. I don't deal with the real thing. That is illegal and hurts children. I am all for fictional depictions, but trust me I don't think child porn should be legal.

Believing I would molest children just because I am into lolicon would be as assuming someone who plays Postal and made it one of its favorite games would go postal on real life.

I have learned to differ fiction from real life. Something most millenials were not thought to do.
Posted January 12, 2016
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AccurateArt: In keeping with the topic of this thread (GOG Current Affairs), I thought I would post this and see what people think:

GOG has recently confirmed that they will be allowing developers to update their games:

"We will be rolling this out to selected developers in the first phases, but in general, yes, that's the idea. The more automated the whole process is, the more timely release we can have, and of course for new games getting updates on time is key." (http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_galaxy_beta_2/post3313)

The question is, will the standalone installers receive the updates at the same time as these updates go live. I'd love to see what people think about this.
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dtgreene: I think it is generally a good idea, but I think gog.com should preserve the old version in case something goes wrong with the update and the user didn't download the game previously.

It is fortunate that, unlike Steam, gog.com doesn't make updates mandatory. (There have been some times mandatory updates have caused issues; Skyrim 1.2, for example, was so bad that 1.3 was just a regression fix.)

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LeonardoCornejo: I seriously mean it, you get your brains all worked up just because someone decides to treat Jenner as what [she] was born as.
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dtgreene: First, use the correct pronoun (especially since her pronoun choice isn't something exotic).

Also, you were born as a baby. Do you want to be treated as a baby all your life?

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AccurateArt: I guess I am really confused as to why lying about who you are to someone you are dating would ever be acceptable.
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dtgreene: Except that there is no lying involved. It would only be lying if a trans person explicitly claimed to be cis.

It is not a lie for a trans man to claim that he is a man, or for a trans woman to claim that she is a woman.
I'll say again, if I were dating someone who upon being asked about biological sex claimed that he was born a woman (did not mention that he was transgender), I'd consider that a lie, doubly so if he knew that I would not classify him as a woman as such.
Posted January 12, 2016
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yogsloth: What I like best about this thread is we now have two people who can't seem to stop steering things to their pet issue.

We need to have an epic rap battle between El Lolicon Pendejo and MC Trans.

dtgreene, you start.
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LeonardoCornejo: LOL. I just earned a nickname XD
I about spit my water all over myself. lol
Posted January 12, 2016
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AccurateArt: I guess I am really confused as to why lying about who you are to someone you are dating would ever be acceptable.
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F4LL0UT: That's so naive, it almost isn't cute anymore. :D
Not really naive :) by the time I asked my wife out for a date, she knew who I was and I knew who she was :) That was a prerequisite for me to date anyone.
Post edited January 12, 2016 by AccurateArt
Posted January 12, 2016
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zeogold: ...I've been a Christian all my life, and I've never even heard those ones before.
Dangit, isn't there some other way I can qualify? What if I have an obsession with bad jokes? Does that count?
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yogsloth: Count yourself lucky you've never had to sit through this guy's stuff. There are real, living, essentially intelligent people, some of whom I am related to, who eat this like Skittles.

And bad jokes? Hmmm.

How bad?

What's the difference between a truck full of dead babies and a truck full of bowling balls?

You can't unload the truck full of bowling balls with a pitchfork.
It says right there in the article that the actual Christians think he's a nutcase who-
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.....I meant......I meant "groan-worthy"....
Posted January 12, 2016
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Can we all relax to some nice soothing music? www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTAan-fd9PU
I was getting ready for some classical music ;)
Posted January 12, 2016
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Can we all relax to some nice soothing music? www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTAan-fd9PU
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AccurateArt: I was getting ready for some classical music ;)
bwahahaha
Posted January 12, 2016
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yogsloth: Count yourself lucky you've never had to sit through this guy's stuff. There are real, living, essentially intelligent people, some of whom I am related to, who eat this like Skittles.

And bad jokes? Hmmm.

How bad?

What's the difference between a truck full of dead babies and a truck full of bowling balls?

You can't unload the truck full of bowling balls with a pitchfork.
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zeogold: It says right there in the article that the actual Christians think he's a nutcase who-
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.....I meant......I meant "groan-worthy"....
Christians especially should be appalled by this man's behavior :) Taking it a step further, Christians should be appalled regardless of the faith or background of the individual.
Post edited January 12, 2016 by AccurateArt
Posted January 12, 2016
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zeogold: ...I've been a Christian all my life, and I've never even heard those ones before.
Dangit, isn't there some other way I can qualify? What if I have an obsession with bad jokes? Does that count?
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AccurateArt: Yeah, there are a subset of Christians who fall under the Young Earth Creationist category who think that the world is that age. I have also never heard of such Christians who are adamantly against those things, but luckily I don't fall into either category :)
Yeah, there's not exactly anywhere in the Bible where it mentions this, nor does science provide any definite answer than "a whole lot of years". I really don't see why so many people get so hung up on such an irrelevant issue.
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zeogold: let me point out that these people are in the very slim minority
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dtgreene: (Quoting just this part on purpose)

Just because a group is a minority doesn't mean it should be ignored. It is way too common that people design things for the majority and don't take into account minorities. Take a look at tools designed for right handed people or games that use color in a way that causes color blind people to have difficulties, for example.
You take it into account, sure, but I don't see how that helps your point any. These individuals (the ones with an actual disorder) need counseling of some sort to come into a better understanding of themselves, not hormones to push them one way or the other.
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zeogold: It says right there in the article that the actual Christians think he's a nutcase who-
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.....I meant......I meant "groan-worthy"....
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AccurateArt: Christians especially should be appalled by this man's behavior :) Taking it a step further, Christians should be appalled regardless of the faith or background of the individual.
Trust me, we are.
Post edited January 12, 2016 by zeogold
Posted January 12, 2016
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AccurateArt: Yeah, there are a subset of Christians who fall under the Young Earth Creationist category who think that the world is that age. I have also never heard of such Christians who are adamantly against those things, but luckily I don't fall into either category :)
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zeogold: Yeah, there's not exactly anywhere in the Bible where it mentions this, nor does science provide any definite answer than "a whole lot of years". I really don't see why so many people get so hung up on such an irrelevant issue.
I get you my friend. I think there are many things for us to get worked up about. The age of the Earth is not one of them as it does not change how I'd live my life.

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AccurateArt: Yeah, there are a subset of Christians who fall under the Young Earth Creationist category who think that the world is that age. I have also never heard of such Christians who are adamantly against those things, but luckily I don't fall into either category :)
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zeogold: Yeah, there's not exactly anywhere in the Bible where it mentions this, nor does science provide any definite answer than "a whole lot of years". I really don't see why so many people get so hung up on such an irrelevant issue.
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dtgreene: (Quoting just this part on purpose)

Just because a group is a minority doesn't mean it should be ignored. It is way too common that people design things for the majority and don't take into account minorities. Take a look at tools designed for right handed people or games that use color in a way that causes color blind people to have difficulties, for example.
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zeogold: You take it into account, sure, but I don't see how that helps your point any. These individuals (the ones with an actual disorder) need counseling of some sort to come into a better understanding of themselves, not hormones to push them one way or the other.
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AccurateArt: Christians especially should be appalled by this man's behavior :) Taking it a step further, Christians should be appalled regardless of the faith or background of the individual.
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zeogold: Trust me, we are.
I know you would be :) as a fellow Christian, I am as well!
Post edited January 12, 2016 by AccurateArt
Posted January 12, 2016
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Just to clarify a couple of points before I pull a Breja, because there is misinformation here.

Gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder according to the people that diagnose mental disorders.

Science really can tell us how long ago the Big Bang was. Radio telescopes have been measuring the cosmic background radiation since 1964.

Y'all have fun in here. :)
Post edited January 12, 2016 by budejovice
Posted January 12, 2016
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budejovice: Just to clarify a couple of points before I pull a [url=http:// gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder]Breja[/url], but there is misinformation here.

Gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder according to the people that diagnose mental disorders.

Science really can tell us how long ago the Big Bang was. Radio telescopes have been measuring the cosmic background radiation since 1964.

Y'all have fun in here. :)
I didn't mean mental disorders. I'm talking about the people who actually have a hormone issue.

I said "exactly", as in "somewhere closer than within a couple billion years". Plus, I've heard there are issues/ways to fool that system as well, but I'm not going to bother arguing about that since it's currently the most reliable system we have.

Thanks! It's been a while since I've had the opportunity to engage in a nice healthy debate. I'm almost grateful.
Post edited January 12, 2016 by zeogold
Posted January 12, 2016
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budejovice: Just to clarify a couple of points before I pull a [url=http:// gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder]Breja[/url], but there is misinformation here.

Gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder according to the people that diagnose mental disorders.

Science really can tell us how long ago the Big Bang was. Radio telescopes have been measuring the cosmic background radiation since 1964.

Y'all have fun in here. :)
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zeogold: I didn't mean mental disorders. I'm talking about the people who actually have a hormone issue.

I said "exactly", as in "somewhere closer than within a couple billion years". Plus, I've heard there are issues/ways to fool that system as well, but I'm not going to bother arguing about that since it's currently the most reliable system we have.

Thanks! It's been a while since I've had the opportunity to engage in a nice healthy debate. I'm almost grateful.
Really off topic but may have more games to donate tomorrow
Posted January 12, 2016
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zeogold: I didn't mean mental disorders. I'm talking about the people who actually have a hormone issue.

I said "exactly", as in "somewhere closer than within a couple billion years". Plus, I've heard there are issues/ways to fool that system as well, but I'm not going to bother arguing about that since it's currently the most reliable system we have.

Thanks! It's been a while since I've had the opportunity to engage in a nice healthy debate. I'm almost grateful.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Really off topic but may have more games to donate tomorrow
Hey, thanks! They're definitely appreciated.
And technically, this entire thread was made to be off-topic anyways.
Post edited January 12, 2016 by zeogold
Posted January 12, 2016
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zeogold: You take it into account, sure, but I don't see how that helps your point any. These individuals (the ones with an actual disorder) need counseling of some sort to come into a better understanding of themselves, not hormones to push them one way or the other.
Of course, the result of that counseling is that the person realizes that gender transition is actually necessary for that person.

Attempts to reinforce the person's birth assigned sex have led to disaster and suicide.
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