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Posted May 25, 2017
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All four games I purchased from GOG worked in Windows 10 until Microsloth went to war with Rovi and embedded code in the Win 10 kernal to defeat SECDRV.SYS. Supposedly GOG versions of those games simply remove the reference to SECDRV.SYS so the game can be played. Yet when I install the games either in GOG Galaxy or with the standalone installer, they fail to open. (I get farther with the versions installed from the original purchased CDs). I get error 0xc0000022 failed to start messages for all of them despite the statements for each game by GOG that they are "compatible" with windows 10.

No amount of futzing with UAC, compatibility settings, safe mode booting, virus protection disabling, internet umnplugging etc. makes a difference. So I tried installing a GOG version on my ancient WIndows XP SP 3 system with which the original (SECDRV.sys protected) version is specified to be compatible. The GOG setup hangs every time. It appears that GOG game installations are NOT LEGITIMATELY LICENSED CODE, rather they are crude hacks that may work for ONE VERY SPECIAL / UNIQUE SYSTEM on which they have been hacked, rather than a properly engineered application with the prohibited DRM removed so it works on GENERAL SYSTEMS with the advertised "compatible" operating systems.

It appears that YOU ARE PAYING FOR ILLEGALLY HACKED SOFTWARE THAT DOES NOT FUNCTION AS ADVERTISED.

WARNING: DO NOT WASTE MONEY ON GOG - IT IS A FRAUD OPERATION FROM WHICH YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE THE GOODS YOU PAID FOR!!!
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Posted May 25, 2017
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nwcole: snip
Looks like you are wrong on all accounts.
According to this post in the Delta Force forum, the topic on the top, your issue is that Direct Play is not turned on.
https://www.gog.com/forum/delta_force_series/windows_version_1703_df1_no_longer_working
Posted May 25, 2017
^ this.
normally, Win10 should prompt user that DirectPlay needs to be turned on when starting the game for the first time.
Posted May 25, 2017
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nwcole: WARNING: DO NOT WASTE MONEY ON GOG - IT IS A FRAUD OPERATION FROM WHICH YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE THE GOODS YOU PAID FOR!!!
This stuff is priceless.
Posted May 25, 2017
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nwcole: All four games I purchased from GOG worked in Windows 10 until Microsloth went to war with Rovi and embedded code in the Win 10 kernal to defeat SECDRV.SYS. Supposedly GOG versions of those games simply remove the reference to SECDRV.SYS so the game can be played. Yet when I install the games either in GOG Galaxy or with the standalone installer, they fail to open. (I get farther with the versions installed from the original purchased CDs). I get error 0xc0000022 failed to start messages for all of them despite the statements for each game by GOG that they are "compatible" with windows 10.

No amount of futzing with UAC, compatibility settings, safe mode booting, virus protection disabling, internet umnplugging etc. makes a difference. So I tried installing a GOG version on my ancient WIndows XP SP 3 system with which the original (SECDRV.sys protected) version is specified to be compatible. The GOG setup hangs every time. It appears that GOG game installations are NOT LEGITIMATELY LICENSED CODE, rather they are crude hacks that may work for ONE VERY SPECIAL / UNIQUE SYSTEM on which they have been hacked, rather than a properly engineered application with the prohibited DRM removed so it works on GENERAL SYSTEMS with the advertised "compatible" operating systems.

It appears that YOU ARE PAYING FOR ILLEGALLY HACKED SOFTWARE THAT DOES NOT FUNCTION AS ADVERTISED.

WARNING: DO NOT WASTE MONEY ON GOG - IT IS A FRAUD OPERATION FROM WHICH YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE THE GOODS YOU PAID FOR!!!
No.
Posted May 25, 2017
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nwcole: All four games I purchased from GOG worked in Windows 10 until Microsloth went to war with Rovi and embedded code in the Win 10 kernal to defeat SECDRV.SYS. Supposedly GOG versions of those games simply remove the reference to SECDRV.SYS so the game can be played. Yet when I install the games either in GOG Galaxy or with the standalone installer, they fail to open. (I get farther with the versions installed from the original purchased CDs). I get error 0xc0000022 failed to start messages for all of them despite the statements for each game by GOG that they are "compatible" with windows 10.

No amount of futzing with UAC, compatibility settings, safe mode booting, virus protection disabling, internet umnplugging etc. makes a difference. So I tried installing a GOG version on my ancient WIndows XP SP 3 system with which the original (SECDRV.sys protected) version is specified to be compatible. The GOG setup hangs every time. It appears that GOG game installations are NOT LEGITIMATELY LICENSED CODE, rather they are crude hacks that may work for ONE VERY SPECIAL / UNIQUE SYSTEM on which they have been hacked, rather than a properly engineered application with the prohibited DRM removed so it works on GENERAL SYSTEMS with the advertised "compatible" operating systems.

It appears that YOU ARE PAYING FOR ILLEGALLY HACKED SOFTWARE THAT DOES NOT FUNCTION AS ADVERTISED.

WARNING: DO NOT WASTE MONEY ON GOG - IT IS A FRAUD OPERATION FROM WHICH YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE THE GOODS YOU PAID FOR!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...
*Wheeze*
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
EDIT: OK Now that I can breathe.... Something doesn't work on your unique singular system and your argument is that it was hacked to work on only a singular system, never mind all the people who have had no problems...? Broken logic. And overreaction is hilarious.
Post edited May 25, 2017 by paladin181
Posted May 25, 2017
FWIW, thanks for posting the solution. I haven't encountered the problem yet, but preemptively turned on DirectPlay to head off any future problems.
Posted May 25, 2017
Welcome to GOG, I guess. Next time maybe a post requesting some help here first would be in order before accusing GOG of being an illegal operation.
Posted May 25, 2017
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nwcole: All four games I purchased from GOG worked in Windows 10 until Microsloth went to war with Rovi and embedded code in the Win 10 kernal to defeat SECDRV.SYS. Supposedly GOG versions of those games simply remove the reference to SECDRV.SYS so the game can be played. Yet when I install the games either in GOG Galaxy or with the standalone installer, they fail to open. (I get farther with the versions installed from the original purchased CDs). I get error 0xc0000022 failed to start messages for all of them despite the statements for each game by GOG that they are "compatible" with windows 10.

No amount of futzing with UAC, compatibility settings, safe mode booting, virus protection disabling, internet umnplugging etc. makes a difference. So I tried installing a GOG version on my ancient WIndows XP SP 3 system with which the original (SECDRV.sys protected) version is specified to be compatible. The GOG setup hangs every time. It appears that GOG game installations are NOT LEGITIMATELY LICENSED CODE, rather they are crude hacks that may work for ONE VERY SPECIAL / UNIQUE SYSTEM on which they have been hacked, rather than a properly engineered application with the prohibited DRM removed so it works on GENERAL SYSTEMS with the advertised "compatible" operating systems.

It appears that YOU ARE PAYING FOR ILLEGALLY HACKED SOFTWARE THAT DOES NOT FUNCTION AS ADVERTISED.

WARNING: DO NOT WASTE MONEY ON GOG - IT IS A FRAUD OPERATION FROM WHICH YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE THE GOODS YOU PAID FOR!!!
Waitwaitwait.... so all the games I got here for nearly 10 years are fake!? Oh boy, thanks for the warning :)
Posted May 25, 2017
While the post itself might be a tad.. heated, the OP has a point. If one buys a game, one can expect it to work if the setup is listed as compatible.

I have a dozen or so games bought from here that outright refuse to work. Haven't bothered the support, though, since it seems there are people who have more issues and the response time is high. My fault, though, I bought them games without checking up if people had problems.
Posted May 25, 2017
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KneeTheCap: While the post itself might be a tad.. heated, the OP has a point. If one buys a game, one can expect it to work if the setup is listed as compatible.
You're asking the impossible. There simply are way too many hardware, driver and software combinations to ensure that any one game works on all of them. Add to that that any OS, driver or software update or hardware change/upgrade can break previous compatibility. Even new games can't be guaranteed to work with all PC's that seemingly meet the requirements.
Posted May 25, 2017
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KneeTheCap: While the post itself might be a tad.. heated, the OP has a point. If one buys a game, one can expect it to work if the setup is listed as compatible.
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Petrell: You're asking the impossible. There simply are way too many hardware, driver and software combinations to ensure that any one game works on all of them. Add to that that any OS, driver or software update or hardware change/upgrade can break previous compatibility. Even new games can't be guaranteed to work with all PC's that seemingly meet the requirements.
THis is a fact of life when dealing with computers.
Posted May 26, 2017
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KneeTheCap: While the post itself might be a tad.. heated, the OP has a point. If one buys a game, one can expect it to work if the setup is listed as compatible.
If that was the case, why then would GOG offer a refund option (for those cases where the game doesn't work even though you meet the system requirements and GOG can't fix it for you)?

That's because they are realistic, they know there are always some configurations that might still have problems. especially when we are talking about old games retrofitted to work on modern PCs.

The listed system requirements are not a "if you meet these, the game will 100% certainlý work!", but a "if you meet these requirements, you are entitled for a refund in case the game doesn't work and we can't fix it to work for you".
Post edited May 26, 2017 by timppu
Posted May 26, 2017
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Sorry - I haven't figured out exactly how this forum works, so I can't append this message to my original post.

I received an email from GOG regarding the DirectPlay fix. It worked. I only wish it was prominent in the purchase / download info so I would not have made such an ass of myself. Having spent the day fighting phone support for a failed AV receiver (a 40 lb, >$1,000 unit) I was in a "pissy" mood. It primed me to look for the next "corporate screwing" and GOG was the unfortunate recipient.

The two later games in the order appear to be working fine once I followed GOG support instructions regarding DirectPlay installation. (I have not tried the two earlier versions). All the "hot keys" documented in the originally purchased CD game appear to work.

I apologize for my bad attitude - (I'm just used to 70 years of corporate screwing and assumed, wrongly, this was yet another instance of same).

wmc

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KneeTheCap: While the post itself might be a tad.. heated, the OP has a point. If one buys a game, one can expect it to work if the setup is listed as compatible.
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timppu: If that was the case, why then would GOG offer a refund option (for those cases where the game doesn't work even though you meet the system requirements and GOG can't fix it for you)?

That's because they are realistic, they know there are always some configurations that might still have problems. especially when we are talking about old games retrofitted to work on modern PCs.

The listed system requirements are not a "if you meet these, the game will 100% certainlý work!", but a "if you meet these requirements, you are entitled for a refund in case the game doesn't work and we can't fix it to work for you".
Posted May 26, 2017
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nwcole: I apologize for my bad attitude - (I'm just used to 70 years of corporate screwing and assumed, wrongly, this was yet another instance of same).

wmc
Well, I for one appreciate you coming back and apologizing. So, welcome to GOG.

Problem with PC games, is that given the millions of different hardware/OS/software configurations, it's impossible to guarantee it will work out of the box for everyone. And as for your suggestion of putting it in a prominent place in the purchase / download info, the problem again is, that given the amount of different possible fixes for some games, this could turn out to be another wall of text that no one would read.

GOG does offer solution to most common problems in its support section, and sometimes these are also pinned in the games' respective forums.

And finally, as it was mentioned they offer complete refund if they don't manage to get the game to work. Whatever GOG is, fraudsters they're not.

Again, welcom to GOG. Hope you enjoy the games.
Post edited May 26, 2017 by ZFR
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