Hello Division 1!

I've started to run as many matches of our division through the BB Manager as I can find the time for. If you're interested in seeing the statistics or even want to help uploading matches, the program can be found here:
http://94.23.239.117/BloodBowlManager.ClickOnce/publish.htm

(I think I used a different link to get it, so I hope this works just as well.)

You then register with your Blood Bowl coach name.

In the program you can find Division 1's matches (well, the ones that were run through so far, mostly thanks to Psyringe) by cklicking on "Matchs", and then directly below "Matchs" choose in the drop-down menu of "My leagues" GoG Weekly S3 - D1.

That league should then appear in the screen and you can click on it to see the matches that were analysed so far.

You can click on a match and then choose "Details and Stats" near the top of the window to get that match's statistics.

Here are some more instructions for those who are interested:
http://forum.bbleague.org/showthread.php?t=3298

If you have more questions (or maybe want t help running the matches through), just ask!

While i see your point - i actually like the opposite better. Orc team is so solid, that one really stupid player doesnt exactly hurt the team performance. Secondly, youre going to face other teams with one more more big players, i rather feed the ST5+regen troll to them than regular orc lino. Anyways, against other big buys its not so necessary to have the block and as long as you use him as support-punching bag sort of player, it isnt such big deal when he fails to do something. ...i mean atleast one player is going to standing next to the other guys big guys anyways.

Also Troll has S-access -> one more Guard player as opposed to lino, who has mere G access. get the troll next skill stand firm and you can just leave him standing middle of enemies with guard+SF and he'll be huge use even if you dont activate him.

I personally dont see troll throwing around goblins, because i dont see the goblins fitting in (my) orc roster.. But that is ofcourse my personal opinion and playign with few gobbos might be more fun, even if not optimal :)

Anyways, i wouldnt use troll as serious blitzer sort of player because of the really stupid, but if you do give him breaktackle, it -can- be put to use in cage breaking. Orcs dont come with high AG nro dodge, so the break tackle can be very-very indeed at breaking cages.

But ofcourse, on those really-stupid days the troll will feel rather waste of money. However, its good to remember that the troll is cheapest of all the big guys in the game, so he wont be adding much slack to TV.

edit: khemri TG's are 10k cheaper.

DeathGate vs. Nagarythe Decadence starting in 5 mins. Hopefully I will manage some more interesting plays than last time :P

Yeah, the troll on the Orc team is best used as a road block and not as an attacker. He's strong enough that your opponent will often need several players to block him, thereby not having those anywhere else. And if he doesn't want to block the troll he'll most likely dodge away which is always risky. :-D

But I wouldn't rule out throwing a Goblin. If you need that desperate one turn touchdown throwing a Goblin is your only chance as an Orc team, and it's one worth taking.

My current view on orcs on the pitch:

1x troll
4x blitzer
4x black orc
1-2x thrower
0-1x orc lino

=11 players

...so personally i simply cannot find space on the pitch for the poor little fella. Thrower(s) is always nice with the sure hands and occasional pass. Linos are rivals of zombies for the best value punching bags for the game.

So unless its kick off at the last two turns or something, where the TTM is clearly the very last chance at pulling off TD, id personally stay away of gobbos. But then again, i have this bad habit of being long time munchkin power gamer in any game which has numbers.

The game between Moggrym's elves and my necromantic creatures ended in a 2-1 victory for me.
Unfortunately, one of my werewolves died, but my team avenged him by injuring 4 elves (including 1 on their first block) and KOing 5 more.

With that kind of numerical advantage, Moggrym couldn't stop me from scoring that 2nd TD after he equalized with a risky play early in the 2nd half. Both TDs were scored by my new ghoul which has now scored 3 times in 2 matches.

Replay here


Edit: Oh, btw, I now have to think of a name for Milou's replacement (whenever I get enough gold to replace him anyway). I should stick with the theme of dogs from comics, but I can't think of any besides Milou and Rantanplan tbh. Any suggestions?

Hmmm... Most that come to my mind are from cartoons and only some from comics: Snoopy, Odie, Dogbert, Krypto, Marmaduke, Scooby-Doo, Brian Griffin, Hong Kong Phooey, Pluto, Santa's Little Helper.

Well, what can I say. I was brutally slaughtered by bloody Amazons. I was typically playing with about four standing players, most of them surrounded by multiple bloodthirsty, savage escapees from the carnival.

I still managed to pull off a 2-1 due to some unlikely heroics by my humble line-elfs but (ignoring one nice chainpush) that was more due to luck than skill. ArnoB is still showing some Norse-genes methinks.

Replay here: http://sdrv.ms/1bnTNzG

Thanks for your help, and Piranjade's too. I finally settled on Idefix, which is the name of Obelix's dog in Asterix.
As a side note, that list is pretty incomplete. It doesn't even have Rantanplan in it, despite the fact that he's even the "hero" of his own series, as well as making several appearances in Lucky Luke.


I just checked my team, and while I thankfully had enough gold to replace poor Milou right away, I noticed that my team's SPP seemed pretty low. And after checking their season stats, I've noticed that all in all, my players have a grand total of 3 casualties (and 8 KOs) inflicted between them, despite the fact that if I look at match records, I've actually inflicted 9 (which is actually a pretty bad total considering I've played against goblins and elves already).

Now granted, before he was shamefully killed by an elf, Milou had injured 2 players, but that still leaves 4 casualties unaccounted for. Any idea what the discrepancy is about?

E_A proofed again that his elves are almost unstoppable even with most of them out of play. Whenever he gets the ball he has a decent shot at scoring. No idea how to stop that :).
I was quite lucky in the first 12 or so turns and then suddenly my lucky rolls went to normal and i just was not able to down the ball carrier even with 2 rerolls.
I had a lot of fun in the first half trying to make his players leave the field one way or another, although i think a lot of them fell over in going for its or a failed dodge. Had to delay quite a bit there, was very afraid that EA would be able to score easily with more than 1 turn available. Second half was mainly on the defensive and trying to stop any elf in scoring position, which i apparently was not able to do properly :).

If anyone knows a way of positioning around an elf so you stop him from escaping almost all the time let me know :P.


Did you have loners or something during any of the games? Star players tend to be quite good at inflicting casualties.

Oh right, I had star players for the first 3 matches against high TV returning teams, they must have injured some players.

That being said, considering the fact that my team's supposed to be pretty resilient and not too awful at bashing, the fact that in 7 games, I've inflicted only 9 casualites while suffering 24 injuries (thankfully nearly half were regenerated) and 3 deaths is pretty annoying. You would think I'm playing a wood elf team lol.

*throws crumpled leaves at mystral*

Grrrrrrrr. ;-))

In my experienc, the best orc rooster has 12 players, although I know it can't be achieved wuth a starting team. It will be:
1x troll
4x blitzers
4x Black orcs
1x thrower
1x Lineman

With a goblin added as soon as possible.

About the tactics with the goblin, it's simple. I use him for two things. First, to make easier for the troll to act, and second, to fault every player that survive the "death zone" created by the black orcs and the troll. In fact, the first skill I give always to the goblin is the gane that makes you to don't be fouled out when making a fault if you don't break armor.
When he is fouled out, something that will happen for sure, the lineman takes his place, as meat shield and general player.

The core of any orc team are 4 blitzers, 4 black orcs and 1 thrower. That's solid enough that the last 2 players can be anything really. You'll probably start with 2 linemen since they're cheaper.

What you choose to field once the team is developed depends on what team you're facing and your situation, imo. Personally I'd only field a troll when defending (since he still exerts TZ when being stupid IIRC) or on the rare occasion you might want to do a goblin throw.