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GamezRanker: We all know the industry likely won't change quickly or in major ways, so sometimes people might need to take care of themselves[like finding manuals/etc online when needed] & they should learn to do so if/when needed)
What we clearly know is that if people do that and let them get away with it, that lack of change in the desired direction (and continued change in the undesired one) is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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GamezRanker: What if the info is built into the game...like complex tutorial style info or a digital guide in the game?

As for manuals, as I said: I also wish they'd go back to the old style and less the pamphlet style ones we get now.
Does/did it also exist in a separate format? That's what should matter.
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Cavalary: What we clearly know is that if people do that and let them get away with it, that lack of change in the desired direction (and continued change in the undesired one) is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Let's be honest...they more or less do it anyways because they(big corps like AAA game devs) are rich/powerful & we're too few in number.

That's why I just make life how I want it to be(strip DRM from bought games to make backups, find and DL extras, etc), and don't try to do the equivalent of tunneling through a granite mountain with a claw hammer.

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Cavalary: Does/did it also exist in a separate format? That's what should matter.
If it's built into the game, looks the same, and one can run/play the game it should be good enough...well unless one wants a copy to hold in their hands, maybe(and in such cases, i'm sure enterprising people could print a copy themselves).
Post edited May 20, 2021 by GamezRanker
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GamezRanker: Let's be honest...they more or less do it anyways because they(big corps like AAA game devs) are rich/powerful & we're too few in number.

That's why I just make life how I want it to be(strip DRM from bought games to make backups, find and DL extras, etc), and don't try to do the equivalent of tunneling through a granite mountain with a claw hammer.
We keep having this exchange for years (or so it seems). You'll keep trying to persuade people not to fight and just adapt and accept things as they are if it's not easy to change, I'll keep saying always fight, no matter the odds, because they'll always be worse if you don't. I mean, sure, pick your battles, but that's in the sense of which ones you actively fight, where you put a whole lot of energy, don't accept the other things you see as wrong either, even the less important ones. Writing occasional complaints and, if/when it exists, joining a call/campaign/petition/open letter made by others doesn't take a lot of energy, and it's way better than nothing... Nothing is all it takes for evil to win, after all, as the saying goes... Not to mention advocating acceptance, which is even worse.
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GamezRanker: If it's built into the game, looks the same, and one can run/play the game it should be good enough...well unless one wants a copy to hold in their hands, maybe(and in such cases, i'm sure enterprising people could print a copy themselves).
Again, if it exists separately, why not have it like that too? Maybe you just want to look through it without being in the game, maybe what you say doesn't apply because you can't yet play the game for some reason, like not meeting requirements, or you don't want to use all the system resources the game uses just to spend maybe a pretty long time going through such material, when reading it if it's a separate file would basically use none once the file is opened... And, again, if it exists elsewhere separately, having it just in some place and not all places where that edition of the game is sold is discrimination.