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JomVanFliet: There's also the mark of the Sweet Baby which is going to put Ragnarök on several DEI/ESG-Detected black lists the moment it gets released. And there's no way to wash off that stink.
Already made it onto this list:
https://deidetected.com/dei-detected/god-of-war-ragnarok
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JomVanFliet: There's also the mark of the Sweet Baby which is going to put Ragnarök on several DEI/ESG-Detected black lists the moment it gets released. And there's no way to wash off that stink.
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eiylhtkh: Already made it onto this list:
https://deidetected.com/dei-detected/god-of-war-ragnarok
There was a site tracking that?

Thanks for sharing.

You see, there's a trend right now on the internet (I'm not saying you're doing that) that is quite annoying: some people are now talking about how "because apparently the majority of players online are hating forced changes to beloved classic characters" it means that people that want to preserve characters the way they were originally created already "won this fight".

This is not true, as data shows its not that simple because there are really ideological people on leadership positions making decisions that affect such characters deliberately as a means to force or, as they say, 'educate society' to accept their own world views and existential beliefs.

Well, social discussions are valid, as we know, so there's no real problem on trying to convince others of your opinions. But when -such methods- are applied we are right to complain.

'Such methods' being:
- Forcing, or, correcting it here, 'recommending through DEI policies' that X% of characters must be X way or Y way;
- Changing well known characters to be something they never were in the first place just so such policies are met;
- Adding completely random characters that take up development team resources, their time and even scrapping out original gameplay time and story ideas just to fill up a DEI check list;

...before the game being released in an 'accepted way', as if personal subjective beliefs could even objectively be considered an accepted way as a premise, necessarily.

If people silence themselves and do not complain about such methods and agendas being forced, then, yes, say good bye to many possible original work simply because forcing, uh, sorry, ''recommending'' artificial criteria as a mean to 'educate society' is just another way to authoritatively deny truly free creative expression in my opinion.

God of War Ragnarok can be a fun game, but by what I've seen, it supposedly did just what I explained above with its story and gameplay, thus, hurting, possibly, I don't know in this specific case, original development team ideas and story.
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Atreyu666: Money saved is money earned! :)
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Mobeeuz: No, money saved is just money spent elsewhere ;)
Would be hard paying for an 5090 without leaving so many games "out" in the rain; but it seems like the destiny is embracing me.

Problem is: My car did cost me a lot in repairs and taxes this year along with countless other costs, so, gamer stuff is far from being the only things i have to pay. Life is expensive... especially a life in the most greedy age ever.

Whats better? 300 really good and customer friendly games using a 5090 or 400 not always really good and not always very customer friendly games by using a half that powerful card? Yeah... i know my deal and how to achieve maximum quality in life with the coins i got.

Anyway, i can still not play them all... lets face it. I am happy some companies are making it way easier to me "making my choice".
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Mobeeuz: No, money saved is just money spent elsewhere ;)
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Atreyu666: Only for hot dogs and donuts!
My brother is indeed NOT spending any money saved "elsewhere", with the exception of investment, shares and everything that will create even more money. He would never spend a single coin on a donut nor any games, not even on a car, simply nothing. Apart from playing darts he does not even know the word "game". I keep my mouth shut... i know what i enjoy, but in most cases it is like ice and fire compared to many other people.
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JamesBond007: I don't think Sony will leave GOG players with unfinished story and eventually Ragnarok will be available DRM-Free, without PSN account requirement. I would expect a GOG release in 2026-2028.
You can be glad you are not a hamster, else you may most certainly not survive the "waiting time".

Besides, another truth to me: AMD currently was demolishing Intels CPUs, which is a good thing because those "3D Zen CPUs" are the best thing gamers ever could be dreaming of... so the CPU future is bright for gamers. There is one thing that is not so bright though: The current RDNA 3 and even 3.5-4 simply can not challenge Nvidia anymore, as the architecture simply is weaker, so they are not even bothering providing a flagship anymore. RDNA 2 (not for RT but power efficiency was even better = great console GPU) was at the same level and actually one of the biggest steps AMDs Radeon ever had. However, RDNA 3 surely was a failure and RDNA 3.5 up to 4 is simply "repairing the bad design with new technology so it may at least not lose even more ground vs. Nvidia". Maybe... who knows.... RDNA 5 could be a new "huge step", this is not impossible because AMD seems to be some sort of Phoenix able to "raise themself out of the ashes, all of a sudden"... just look at ZEN... it was destroying Intel and no one ever would have placed any bid on it... it was just way to unrealistic of a scenario. Basically the Phoenix that was suddenly turning the pot upside down (or downside up). Still, as long as AMD is not able to raise the RDNA to a new level, Nvidia can charge almost any price they enjoy, at least for the flagships.
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eiylhtkh: Already made it onto this list:
https://deidetected.com/dei-detected/god-of-war-ragnarok
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.Keys: There was a site tracking that?

Thanks for sharing.

You see, there's a trend right now on the internet (I'm not saying you're doing that) that is quite annoying: some people are now talking about how "because apparently the majority of players online are hating forced changes to beloved classic characters" it means that people that want to preserve characters the way they were originally created already "won this fight".

This is not true, as data shows its not that simple because there are really ideological people on leadership positions making decisions that affect such characters deliberately as a means to force or, as they say, 'educate society' to accept their own world views and existential beliefs.

Well, social discussions are valid, as we know, so there's no real problem on trying to convince others of your opinions. But when -such methods- are applied we are right to complain.
As far as i can tell, because complicated matter as long as i lack sufficient transparency: Those "forced changes for good, or in order to become a better human/society" are most likely worse than not to make any "forced changes" at all. Instead of trying to force mental stuff, it is better to achieve understanding for each others in a non forced way... using our heart. As long as it is forced... in some way, i think in long term it will not bring us together... rather "bring us apart". Although, this is the failure of the current age in which conflicts are being grown like mushrooms on a huge farm without truly considering the long term effects, which brings along distrust in a society already "full of distrust". Clearly not the right path... but i am not the one in charge, it is the gamers or we all... who will make it work or simply not.
Post edited June 02, 2024 by Xeshra
Nice!

I forgot. I'm in a non-PSN-supported country and therefore cannot buy the game.

Off to the seas then.
I vote to have this come to GOG galaxy.
The PSN account is not so well accepted amongst PC gamers and in general even those "all accepting" Vapor-gamers at this other place are slowly realizing if they are allowing foreign third party accounts to increasingly dictate their games... at some point they may end into a "account war" and it will slowly, for those gamers who enjoy convenience, start to become non confident in convenience at all. So there is some hope they may not accept anything anymore and the only one being able to stop certain rules from happening is the majority.

Originally, they had in mind to only use a very convenient Vapor-account with "one click to get it all working", that was the big idea at least, but with a increased amount of "linked up accounts" this may not work so well anymore, unless they are stepping away from the idea of the "one click to install everything at a single place with a single account-idea".

Sony... well Sony knows very well... lack of success related to Vapor matters are, in drug terms, with lack of power and therefor the coins may not flow all to well.

However, Sony was already releasing several "high rated" franchises without certain account demands, so it is possible to get another mostly or mainly DRM free version.

I would worry much more if it is a Ubisoft game... i think at some point they may even become "stream only"-games... if this is acceptable to the majority i can not say, but it surely need to be a dam good game that can keep itself up with life-service only, because there will be no other value provided, and surely not "the right to own". The good thing for the majority is just, that the majority is used to "not owning anything and be happy with", if this would be any different, we would have a world war already because the majority was never owning so less, compared to the resources available.

In my mind, many games are way to expensive if we consider the thing actually bought... which is just a minor license which can be discontinued at any given time, in theory.

Hmm... good video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNrmyFDWuVY
Post edited August 24, 2024 by Xeshra
I believe Sony realizes that their PlayStation consoles have no future, and are attempting to bring the "PlayStation experience" to PC. Which includes PSN, and perhaps in the future, a PlayStation Plus requirement to play online.

To go from your own platform where you make and keep 100% of the sales, as well as charging customers to play games online AND charging developers and publishers a licensing fee for each title, is a hard thing to let go. Sony probably feels like they shouldn't have to be treated like everyone else, and so I believe there will come a day when a "PlayStation" launcher exists. Akin to Steam, Epic and all the rest.

I hope this isn't the case, but to be fair Sony doesn't produce much of value anyway. If Astro Bot comes to GOG though, then I will change my mind.
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Mobeeuz: ..and requires a PSN account to play so no GOG release - period.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: ...and you forgot to mention the fact that it also will contain spyware just like all of the other Sony games that are on GOG...and therefore, who cares if it doesn't come to GOG? Spyware-infested games should not be welcome on GOG anyway.

In fact, GOG should delist all of the spyware-infested games that are already on GOG, starting with the Sony ones.
I think GOG should start the delisting with Unity engine games, unlike Sony that provides the warning in their EULA. Most of the lowlifes who use Unity engine don't provide any disclaimer at all about Unity Analytics data collection. Also, some developers remove Unity Analytics from their games, so it's obviously not impossible to remove them.


As for the game in question, i'm not even considering any games from Sony until they make some significant changes to the EULA and remove the spyware.
Post edited August 25, 2024 by 00063
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Pax-Christi: I believe Sony realizes that their PlayStation consoles have no future, and are attempting to bring the "PlayStation experience" to PC. Which includes PSN, and perhaps in the future, a PlayStation Plus requirement to play online.

To go from your own platform where you make and keep 100% of the sales, as well as charging customers to play games online AND charging developers and publishers a licensing fee for each title, is a hard thing to let go. Sony probably feels like they shouldn't have to be treated like everyone else, and so I believe there will come a day when a "PlayStation" launcher exists. Akin to Steam, Epic and all the rest.

I hope this isn't the case, but to be fair Sony doesn't produce much of value anyway. If Astro Bot comes to GOG though, then I will change my mind.
Nah SONY as an entity won't survive long enough to even get started on it. All the corporations are going to go bye bye soon.