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Hey, GOGgers,

We're not perfect, we're exploring new frontiers, and we make mistakes. We thought DRM-Free was so important that you'd prefer we bring you more DRM-Free games and Fair Price was less critical and that it could be sacrificed in some cases. The last two week's worth of comments in our forums (nearly 10k!), show that's not the case. We didn’t listen and we let you down. We shouldn't sacrifice one of our core values in an attempt to advance another. We feel bad about that, and we're sorry. Us being sorry is not of much use to you, so let’s talk about how we will fix it.

One: DRM-free forever. Abandoning fixed regional pricing means it will probably take longer to get some games, but you've made it clear that sacrificing fair pricing for more DRM-free games isn't acceptable.

Two: We will adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing. If that fails and we are required to have regional prices, we will make up the difference for you out of our own pockets. For now it will be with $5.99 and $9.99 game codes. In a couple of months, once we have such functionality implemented, we will give you store credit instead, which then you will be able to use towards any purchase and cover the price of it in full or partially. Effectively gamers from all around the world will be able to benefit from the US prices.

This will apply to every single game where we do not have flat pricing, such as Age of Wonders 3 (full details here), Divinity: Original Sin, and The Witcher 3. If you remember the Fair Price Package for The Witcher 2, this will be exactly the same.

Three: We still intend to introduce the pricing in local currencies. Let us explain why we want to do it and how we want to make it fair for everyone. From the very beginning our intention was to make things easier for users whose credit cards/payment systems are not natively in USD. The advantages are simple because the price is more understandable and easier to relate to. There would be no exchange rates involved, no transaction fees, and no other hidden charges. However after reading your comments, we realized we have taken an important element away: the choice. In order to fix this, we'll offer the option of paying in the local currency or the equivalent in USD. This way, how you pay is always your choice.

Four: You are what matters, and we will be sure to involve you all more in what we're doing and why we're doing it. Let's start by meeting you at GDC - we’d like to invite you to meet us face-to-face Monday the 17th at GDC. Obviously, not all of you can come to San Francisco, so we want to invite all of you to an online event with us early in April to ask us whatever you would like. More details soon.

The bottom line is simple: there may be companies that won't work with us (although we will work hard to convince the most stubborn ones ;). Yes, it means we might miss out on some games, but at the same time GOG.com will remain true to its values and will keep on offering you the best of DRM-free gaming with Fair Prices.

Once again thank you for caring so much about GOG.com. We will work hard not to disappoint you again.

--Marcin "iWi" Iwinski & Guillaume "TheFrenchMonk" Rambourg
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BKGaming: Eh I think GOG should have stuck with there decision honestly. People may have complained loudly and those who complain always do (they would have gotten over it)... but as always the decision if something was worth the price is in the hands of the consumers. Now we will all likely miss out on games that we could have had here DRM free because certain consumers couldn't exercise there ability to not buy something that was overpriced but instead complained and threaten to leave GOG which would have been unlikely because GOG still gives the better value and nowhere else has flat regional pricing.

Not saying regional pricing is a good thing, it's not and is stupid... but it's the consumers who should show that by not purchasing the product... not complaining and blaming GOG for what needed to be done to get us more DRM free games. I just hope in the long run this doesn't effect GOG's profits to much and hurts us all.
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Chebwa: Although this is great, I feel that you're caving to the "community" (the vocal minority) a bit too easily. The entitled gamers that were throwing a shit fit don't always need to be placated. So long as your games remain DRM-free, you should charge what you please and let the buyer decide what a game is worth to them on a case by case basis.

Eh, whatever.
These.

People are too reactionary, these days. Even to things that won't ever affect them personally. It's a knee-jerk reaction, without thought. "I don't like this. I don't know why, but it 'sounds' bad, to me! I MUST OVERTURN IT!!1"

While I did have some concerns over the new policy from GOG, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for a few weeks, to see how it was handled, and which big publishers would have signed up their back catalogues...now, we'll never know ...

Thanks a lot you fucking whinging bastards! You just killed any chance of Bethesda and Microsoft appearing on GOG!

Nice try, GOG, but next time, announce a trial run of a few months, first, to shut these pathetic idiots up, eh?
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Lone3wolf:
I respectfully disagree (at least for myself)

1) I wasn't thinking of just me when I backed the more global option I was thinking of those less fortunate than myself

2) there wasn't a guarantee that Zenimax/Bethesda would have brought any games over anyways
I never posted because I'm just not that kind of guy but I have to let this out, hope the guys at GOG read this, although maybe I'm in the minority here.

Sometimes you guys are too kind it worries me. Although my games library might not reflect it, I'm actually a big fan of GOG.com, mainly because, well, you're the nicest guys that I know in the world of online retail. Many times when I made an impulse buy of a 50% off game in steam, I would regret it when months later it has 80% off and I haven't actually installed it. But never once did I regret my day-1 purchase of Witcher 2 ($5 off with preorder) even though I didn't get to play it many months later because I'M HAPPY TO GIVE GOG.COM MY MONEY. During those months Witcher 2 got discounted many times on both steam and GOG but I never cared. Just to illustrate how much I love this company.

Which comes down to this important point; as a fan, I want you to survive. To survive, you need to make money. And I still think what you were trying to do is a sensible thing for GOG to expand and make more money, I mean, it's not like suddenly all your games will be regionally priced. Hell, you also emphasized that you will keep fighting the good fight of fair pricing. Not saying you're in financial crisis or anything, but any extra money can be used to improve CD Projekt or maybe even establish another sister company on par with CDP (one can hope?)

To put it in a short sentence; go big, make money, stay nice.

P.S. can't wait to drop my money for that Witcher 3 pre-order
I must say, I'm really surprised by how fast you turned your jacket on this one (it's a french expression, in case you don't understand). Valve changed their local pricing policy without asking anyone, and despite everything, they didn't budge. You could have done the same. I really am impressed how much you care about our opinion, and I hope you won't regret it. Anyway, I think I'll stick around a while longer ;)
Post edited March 15, 2014 by Kamikave
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BKGaming: Quoting this for the truth. I would loved to know where those people that were boycotting were going to go? Steam? How is that different? DRM and no bonuses? That's better?

This whole thing is ridiculous... people spoke without thinking & GOG listened and now we will all see the outcome.
Away.

Whether or not people thought about it - I certainly thought about it a lot - I don't see how GOG abandoning their principles a bit less is a bad thing.

EDIT: I should say though, that the main bit I didn't like was what was going to happen to the classic games. I was reluctantly ok with regional pricing on new games.
Post edited March 15, 2014 by SirPrimalform
I was not vocal about theses changes at all, but I was quite upset anyways. There is barely anything I hate more than (unfair) reginal pricing, and us Europeans are used to paying USD:€ 1:1 and we hate it! ;-)

Thanks for listening to us/ your customers!!

There are a lot of games I'm planning to buy at GoG when I'm not as broke as currently, and you made me feel like you're a good company to spend money at!
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I haven't posted on GOG forums before and probably won't use them after this, but I'm dropping in now just to say thank you. I lost a good chunk of my trust in GOG because of the news about regional pricing, but this newspost restored my confidence.

I've had bad experiences with stores and products that attempt to cater to my region. It means that I'll get either localised content (=the product's been translated into my language even though I'd prefer to have it in the original English), or region restrictions (=I'm prevented from buying something), or regional pricing (=usually means I'll have to pay more). Because of these reasons, I was very apprehensive of the earlier newsposts on the topic of regional pricing. I was also unhappy with the way we were informed about it; something I didn't want was marketed as good news, which felt like adding insult to injury.

I do still understand where this was coming from. I realize it can be tough to find a balance in which the customers remain satisfied with the prices while the company still makes enough of a profit. And from what I saw in the earlier thread, the planned prices didn't actually sound too bad. I was mostly just disappointed about the sacrifice of one of the core principles, and wary about what it will mean for the future of GOG. DRM-free games aren't the only reason why I'm using GOG, and they're not the one and only thing I want from the site.

Since I'm already used to getting regional pricing everywhere else, I probably would've been able to accept it more easily on GOG too if the original newspost had been different. If it had discussed the situation as thoroughly and openly as possible, detailing the plans on how much things will change exactly, I don't think I would've been as upset. It would've helped if regional pricing was explained as something regrettable but necessary instead of "good news" and "fair pricing". Those sound like euphemisms for "we're screwing our customer and pretending that nothing is wrong with that". Also, I was okay with the idea of regional pricing here back when I thought that it would apply to just a bunch of new releases. The moment I heard that GOG's classic game catalogue would be affected, too, was the exact moment when I was not on board with it anymore. That reveal kinda came out of the blue, and it made me worry if there will be more nasty surprises like that in the future.

But either way, this latest newspost on the topic is more than sufficient to smooth things over. I'm thankful you guys listened, and I have no hard feelings anymore. I'll be happy to continue as a customer on GOG, and I believe I have a higher opinion of GOG now than I had before this whole thing happened.
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Sorry, but those cheap bastards whining about fair pricing should be flogged. Thanks to all you "fair pricing" whiners we're going to miss out on lots of titles GOG otherwise could have gotten. So thanks you cheap asses, for stiffing all of us out on who knows how many great titles we'll miss just because you think you pay too much. Moronic crybabies.

This is about reviving older games to be able to play them, not about how much you pay. If you're too cheap to pay for quality entertainment then buy a pad of paper and some crayons and doodle to entertain yourself.

Way to go GOG. I would rather pay 20 bucks for 10 dollar title just to make it available then never see that title at all.
Post edited March 15, 2014 by drachehexe
I'm glad they are continuing to have fair pricing cause I don't have a ton of money to spend on games so to be able to buy a whole bunch for say 20 dollars rather than buying one for 20 dollars makes me happy. Yeah there may be some games we don't get because of this but I don't care they have a good selection and to those who want to pay more good for you purchase your games on Amazon or something brand new but don't complain about lower prices that's stupid
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drachehexe: Sorry, but those cheap bastards whining about fair pricing should be flogged. Thanks to all you "fair pricing" whiners we're going to miss out on lots of titles GOG otherwise could have gotten. So thanks you cheap asses, for stiffing all of us out on who knows how many great titles we'll miss just because you think you pay too much. Moronic crybabies.

This is about reviving older games to be able to play them, not about how much you pay. If you're too cheap to pay for quality entertainment then buy a pad of paper and some crayons and doodle to entertain yourself.

Way to go GOG. I would rather pay 20 bucks for 10 dollar title just to make it available then never see that title at all.
Surprise surprise another person in the US who 'doesn't get what all the fuss is about'. Is not wanting to be arbitrarily charged more being cheap?
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I know the squeaky wheel gets the oil, but I agreed with GOG. I would much rather have games be DRM free with a higher price than the other way around.

I don't have Steam and don't buy Humble Bundle packages of games that are only on Steam because of DRM. GOG is the almost the only place on PC where I buy digital games because they are DRM free.

I have purchased several games from GOG that I already owned because they offered the DRM-free version. Space Rangers 2 being one as my boxed copy has StarForce - which I refuse to put on my PC. Torchlight is another. After realizing that I only had 3 installs from Relic, and had to burn 2 on the first day after an error occurred and corrupted the first install when exiting out following the first time I played the game. The Roller Coaster Tycoon series are another..

I appreciate the fact I can backup my own games or just install them on my new system without hassle and knowing that GOG puts a lot of effort in making sure the games run on new and older systems and updates regularly.

Nothing in life is free. This entitlement mentality of everything for nothing is a parasitic cancerous disease that can go straight to hell.

To the GOG team - THANK YOU.
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munakokkeli: If it had discussed the situation as thoroughly and openly as possible, detailing the plans on how much things will change exactly, I don't think I would've been as upset. It would've helped if regional pricing was explained as something regrettable but necessary instead of "good news" and "fair pricing". Those sound like euphemisms for "we're screwing our customer and pretending that nothing is wrong with that".
This. That was a mistake on GOG's part, and put them on par with the "other" digital retailers even more than deciding to go for regional pricing in the first place. I, for one, felt disrespected more than I felt economically harmed. Which is why I am so glad that they righted their wrong.

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munakokkeli: Nothing in life is free. This entitlement mentality of everything for nothing is a parasitic cancerous disease that can go straight to hell.
I mean no disrespect on your very valid (albeit wrong imho) opinion, and you should regard this merely as a tongue-in-cheek comment, but I just can't help noting how much you sound like Andrew Ryan from Bioshock.
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Lone3wolf: Thanks a lot you fucking whinging bastards! You just killed any chance of Bethesda and Microsoft appearing on GOG!
Have you even read the OP? They're still allowing regional pricing on new games, they're just making up the difference in store credit.
That's ignoring the fact that you don't know what the factors in GOG signing Bethesda and Microsoft are.
Post edited March 15, 2014 by SirPrimalform
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SirPrimalform: Have you even read the OP? They're still allowing regional pricing on new games, they're just making up the difference in store credit.
That's ignoring the fact that you don't know what the factors in GOG signing Bethesda and Microsoft are.
Maybe he/she stopped reading at "Getting back to our roots" and drew their conclusions - after all, the OP is quite lengthy, why "waste" time reading that wall of text when you can jump right in and call people all sorts of names? :-P

On a more serious note - are Bethesda games sold (online) in any other form than Steam keys?
Oh, I thought this meant GoG was going back to reverse engineering, fixing up and releasing old games, without DRM to boot.

This is good too, I guess, but I'd still prefer the old GoG back. A 30 day money back guarantee doesn't make up for the fact that some games still have problems on modern systems (we want to play the game, not return it!).

I myself more care more about cheap prices than DRM.. sort of. I will accept Steam DRM (a lot of people are fine with it too), but refuse anything with DRM of old, especially TAGES and StarForce.


Note: I've got no idea what sparked this post; been far too busy to pay attention to news on GoG for the last month or so.