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Posted February 24, 2020
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nightcraw1er.488: Your out with a laptop that doesn’t have enough room to store what you want to play, but does have the ability to run it and stream it? It’s a total waste of bandwidth in that case.
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iuliand: It is not like that. You only need a fairly low spec machine (4Gb of RAM is a requirement) and decent bandwidth. The game runs entirely on Nvidia's servers in a virtual machine, with your settings, and the game's video output is streamed back to you.
It makes sense even if you have the local processing power because you save on the electricity bill and run a much cooler and silent machine.
I would really love to see GoG Galaxy supporting the GeForce now service. For instance, I'm quite frustrated that I own Witcher 3 on GoG but not on Steam and because of that I can't play it with GeForce Now.
As with all these “but steam has the feature” posts, just go and buy it on steam. There really is no need to make every store exactly the same. The point of gog is drm free offline games, not we will link you up to all kinds of third party servers to mine your information, just because steam does. If it’s truly completely separate as one poster mentioned then it’s nothing to with gog, you set it up. If galaxy needs to implement it then 100% against it. Galaxy cloud saves, dlls, achievements etc. Have been bloating what used to be “offline backup installers” for years now, I do not want any more third party crap bloating my installers and tying them to data mining services, or I would use steam!
Posted February 24, 2020
"Cyberpunk 2077 Coming To GeForce NOW"
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/gfn-announcements/22/343462/cyberpunk-2077-coming-to-geforce-now/?cjevent=f851793756e711ea80ea02220a180512

Please GOG,add Galaxy support.
Post edited February 24, 2020 by Pyromancer138
Posted February 24, 2020
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iuliand: It is not like that. You only need a fairly low spec machine (4Gb of RAM is a requirement) and decent bandwidth. The game runs entirely on Nvidia's servers in a virtual machine, with your settings, and the game's video output is streamed back to you.
It makes sense even if you have the local processing power because you save on the electricity bill and run a much cooler and silent machine.
I would really love to see GoG Galaxy supporting the GeForce now service. For instance, I'm quite frustrated that I own Witcher 3 on GoG but not on Steam and because of that I can't play it with GeForce Now.
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nightcraw1er.488: As with all these “but steam has the feature” posts, just go and buy it on steam. There really is no need to make every store exactly the same. The point of gog is drm free offline games, not we will link you up to all kinds of third party servers to mine your information, just because steam does. If it’s truly completely separate as one poster mentioned then it’s nothing to with gog, you set it up. If galaxy needs to implement it then 100% against it. Galaxy cloud saves, dlls, achievements etc. Have been bloating what used to be “offline backup installers” for years now, I do not want any more third party crap bloating my installers and tying them to data mining services, or I would use steam!
You do realize you have the option not to use the service if they decide to support it within GoG galaxy? It's a matter of supporting it at server level, and it will not modify the galaxy app. Please don't make suppositions if you don't know how GeForce Now works.
Geforce Now is a subscription service that facilitates gameplay on Windows, macOS, and Android, opening up new possibilities to run games in a cross-platform environment. Imagine running Witcher 3 on an Android TV or tablet with a controller connected. Maybe it's not for everyone but I don't think GoG should miss on this opportunity. They risk remaining behind the trend and having a lot to lose eventually.
Posted February 24, 2020
While I don't anticipate getting stable internet at the level that this is made feasible for me any time in the near future, the blind hatred here is hilarious.

For reference, and so that you can at least do some informed hating:

Geforce Now is a service where you are able to play games you already bought on some service (such as Steam or Epic or if the creator of this thread has their way, gog), through streaming.
So if you had a computer not capable of running a game, but you bought it because it was really cheap and you wanted to play it at some point, as long as you have a good enough internet connection, you can.

It doesn't take away from anything you already have, it just adds to it as a separate tool (doubt it would even need to be 'integrated into galaxy'), and is completely optional.

You can go back to blind hatred now!
Post edited February 24, 2020 by babark
Posted February 24, 2020
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babark:
SO basically a cloud based (fake) 3d card - Seem's legit

Just like: this
Posted February 24, 2020
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babark:
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fr33kSh0w2012: SO basically a cloud based (fake) 3d card - Seem's legit

Just like: this
3D Card? What are you on about?
You think they're lying? I wonder why no one has mentioned this, considering that it's been in beta for ages, and has been available for the publich for almost a month now.

Again, I have no intention of using it any time soon, but considering the "DRM FREEEAAA! I OWN MY GAMES FOREVAAAAR!" mantra of so many here, you'd think they'd support a service that let you take control of your games, and provided the best version of a system of cloud gaming possible today (in terms of ownership, not in terms of features and technical superiority, dunno about that for Geforce Now).
Post edited February 24, 2020 by babark
Posted February 24, 2020
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babark: 3D Card? What are you on about?
Video card, Graphics card. Call me old fashioned but i call them 3d cards
Posted February 24, 2020
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nightcraw1er.488: Oh goodie, more streaming shit. It’s even worse than the worst drm, if anything it is the Ultimate DRM, no user ownership at all. Shame I can only downvote the OP once.
Looks like you don't know how internet and streaming work. Let me prepare learning road map for you:

Begin with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet,
then https://opensource.com/resources/virtualization
and then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_gaming.

It will help you understand what Geforce Now is and why it will not add "ULTRA UNBREAKABLE WE WILL TAKE YOUR GAMES AND WILL NEVER GIVE YOU IT BACK DRM" (C) to your games.

Just let me know if you can't reach any of that pages - I can send you instructions by mail :)
Post edited February 24, 2020 by codydismal
Posted February 24, 2020
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babark: Geforce Now is a service where you are able to play games you already bought on some service (such as Steam or Epic or if the creator of this thread has their way, gog), through streaming.
So what does nVidia get out of it? Does it only work if you have a nVidia card? Even if - how can it be cost-effective for them (all that 3D power and streaming servers don't come for free) if people just buy the cheapest available nVidia card and then stream their Cyberpunk 2077?
Posted February 24, 2020
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babark: Geforce Now is a service where you are able to play games you already bought on some service (such as Steam or Epic or if the creator of this thread has their way, gog), through streaming.
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toxicTom: So what does nVidia get out of it? Does it only work if you have a nVidia card? Even if - how can it be cost-effective for them (all that 3D power and streaming servers don't come for free) if people just buy the cheapest available nVidia card and then stream their Cyberpunk 2077?
It's a service, nVidia doesn't do it for free. You have to sign up for it, and pay them for any significant use. You wouldn't need to buy any nVidia card to do it, as far as I understand. It is even doable on smartphones, if you were insane enough to want to play Cyberpunk 2077 on a smartphone with touch controls.
Post edited February 24, 2020 by babark
Posted February 24, 2020
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babark: It's a service, nVidia doesn't do it for free. You have to sign up for it, and pay them for any significant use. You wouldn't need to buy any nVidia card to do it, as far as I understand. It is even doable on smartphones, if you were insane enough to want to play Cyberpunk 2077 on a smartphone with touch controls.
I see. So you basically buy the game like on Steam and then you "rent" the service from nVidia and let them check somehow (connect Steam account) that you have the game and then you can play the streamed version, right?

(provided it's a game supported by Geforce Now)

Makes sense - although I'm not sure how many people would actually be willing to pay twice - for the game and the service.
Posted February 24, 2020
Or GOG could just wait and see what happens. There's this huge hype push for the next thing, but it usually is a losing strategy. Let's not forget that we've had about 3 pushes for 3D on home televisions, and they all failed.

GOG, already fell for it once, when they promised Witcher 3 on Stadia, what a dumpster fire that was. The ecosystem needs to prove its viability first. Then the games will flock to it, if it's worth it.
Posted February 25, 2020
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codydismal: Looks like you don't know how internet and streaming work. Let me prepare learning road map for you:

[...]

It will help you understand what Geforce Now is and why it will not add "ULTRA UNBREAKABLE WE WILL TAKE YOUR GAMES AND WILL NEVER GIVE YOU IT BACK DRM" (C) to your games.
Looks like you are making many pithy comments that demonstrate ignorance and/or denial of the war on ownership that has been going on and getting increasingly worse for the consumer. Yes, this service on its own is not "ultra unbreakable never give it back blah blah blah". In fact, it appears to be very convenient and, on the surface, pro-consumer! Now...stay with me...this is precisely why it may pose trouble in the long run:

Consumers get accustomed to gradually ceding control to companies that at first, look like they are simply helping the experience. Many people thus feel positive about this and the digital-only/streaming-only stuff grows in popularity. Once it is popular enough, THEN it starts getting anti-consumer, and has enough of a foothold that it forces into the choice of "accept it, or miss out on the content entirely".

At that point, it is TOO LATE to do anything about it as a consumer. Don't believe me? It is EXACTLY what happened with Valve's Scheme client, it is exactly what happened with Netflix, and we will continue seeing more and more of it thanks to people (such as yourself) pooh-poohing anyone who dares criticize these "conveeeeenient" services. You really don't see that a service like Geforce Now can have "Geforce-stream-only exclusives" Later?
Posted February 25, 2020
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codydismal: Looks like you don't know how internet and streaming work. Let me prepare learning road map for you:

[...]

It will help you understand what Geforce Now is and why it will not add "ULTRA UNBREAKABLE WE WILL TAKE YOUR GAMES AND WILL NEVER GIVE YOU IT BACK DRM" (C) to your games.
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rjbuffchix: Looks like you are making many pithy comments that demonstrate ignorance and/or denial of the war on ownership that has been going on and getting increasingly worse for the consumer. Yes, this service on its own is not "ultra unbreakable never give it back blah blah blah". In fact, it appears to be very convenient and, on the surface, pro-consumer! Now...stay with me...this is precisely why it may pose trouble in the long run:

Consumers get accustomed to gradually ceding control to companies that at first, look like they are simply helping the experience. Many people thus feel positive about this and the digital-only/streaming-only stuff grows in popularity. Once it is popular enough, THEN it starts getting anti-consumer, and has enough of a foothold that it forces into the choice of "accept it, or miss out on the content entirely".

At that point, it is TOO LATE to do anything about it as a consumer. Don't believe me? It is EXACTLY what happened with Valve's Scheme client, it is exactly what happened with Netflix, and we will continue seeing more and more of it thanks to people (such as yourself) pooh-poohing anyone who dares criticize these "conveeeeenient" services. You really don't see that a service like Geforce Now can have "Geforce-stream-only exclusives" Later?
My comment wasn't about protecting modern services, it was about people that sure that their opinion is the only one that matters.

Your logic makes sense, but not for everybody around. For example in my opinion you are tilting at windmills.

I have dozens of DVD discs at home but I haven't watched any of them for ~7 years simply because streaming is more comfortable for me.
"What will you do when you will have no internet?!" - you ask. Actually, not watching films at all - my laptop has no DVD drive so all that DVDs are just a garbage that I have to utilize but I am too lazy.

Same situation with cloud gaming. What if somebody can't afford the newest hardware and moden games already forced him into choice "use geforce now or not play at all"? It is not DRM problem, it games problem. Does it mean that games are not customer-friendly nowadays?
Post edited February 25, 2020 by codydismal
Posted February 25, 2020
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codydismal: My comment wasn't about protecting modern services, it was about people that sure that their opinion is the only one that matters.

Your logic makes sense, but not for everybody around. For example in my opinion you are tilting at windmills.

I have dozens of DVD discs at home but I haven't watched any of them for ~7 years simply because streaming is more comfortable for me.
"What will you do when you will have no internet?!" - you ask. Actually, not watching films at all - my laptop has no DVD drive so all that DVDs are just a garbage that I have to utilize but I am too lazy.
Ironic then that your choices are going to end up enforcing the very thing that you criticize (people whose "opinion is the only one that matters"). Once streaming gets enough of a foothold, the consumer will no longer be given the option of owning many pieces of media. Your opinion about streaming being good, will effectively be the only one that matters in that it will be the "choice" given to consumers: take it or leave it. So what about the people who don't share your opinion of not caring about ownership or long-term media preservation? I guess they're out of luck!


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codydismal: What if somebody can't afford the newest hardware and moden games already forced him into choice "use geforce now or not play at all"? It is not DRM problem, it games problem. Does it mean that games are not customer-friendly nowadays?
That is a red herring. We are talking about people who do have the means to purchase games. My point was that streaming, with enough support, eventually becomes "stream-only", forcing a choice to those who would have otherwise been able to (effectively) own the games, with all else equal. The fact that some people can't afford to own stuff now, doesn't change the nature of the "streaming versus ownership" debate. Make sense? I'm not wasting any more time addressing red herrings like this, or "you need the internet to download your GOG purchase, so it's basically the same difference", or "isn't MoNeY iTsElF a DRM?".
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