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Pherim: Did anyone ever really praise the original NWN campaign?
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I met more than a few people who praised that game. And not in form of all tools that are available and user content that appeared afterwards, but in a form of vanilla campaign.
Always raises my brows.

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Pherim: I think most people agree that it is awful, and I also believe that NWN is mostly loved because of the multiplayer part, especially persistent worlds and such, but I never played it like that - and the third party modules you already mentioned. I've played the official modules, including the premium ones, but I really wasn't too impressed by any of them - ok, SoU and HotU were really not bad, but it's been some time since I played them. I recently began Darkness over Daggerford (the free module for the original NWN, not the premium EE version) to see if it is really as good as I've heard. But I'm not very far into it, so I can't tell, yet.
Honestly, I never played it as multiplayer at all. My connection options were bad back when this game was popular, and when I got decent connection nobody remembered NWN1 (Darth Muffin maybe). Most people forgot NWN2 to that moment. :)
But I agree, I sincerely don't get "da hype" about NWN1 campaign.

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Pherim: I also don't like the interface (some issues could be resolved with mods though) and I'm not too fond of the overall gameplay. I love the party-based D&D games with the Infinity Engine (BG-PST-IWD), including the combat, but when you control only one character, there are much fewer tactical options and combat gets boring pretty fast (this is also one of the problems I have with KOTOR - though you can control companions, you only control one at a time).
Not to mention "partner" AI who was beyond stooopeed. I ground my teeth a lot when I waited till companion do something I needed. When I got an option to workaround my way into adding some options for my character I had no access to due to class limitations I forgot about them and haven't used them. In add-ons it was a little bit easier, but again, nothing to write home about. Unless you want to sent a Litany of Curses. :) Sadly NWN2 also suffers from this to an extent, I can't remember how many times Neeshka ignored all the traps.

Honestly KOTOR is also on my "meh" list. Not because I got "disappointed with Bioware" as some people on BSN tried to blame me when I criticized ME3. :D
For many reasons. True, I'm not hardcore Star Wars fan - other than Kyle Katarn cycle, the only SW game I really like is Republic Commando. But I digress. My list of complains to KOTOR starts with bioware template (I figured out who is proverbial father of Luke Skywalker early on:) and wasn't really impressed when TRUTH UNVEILED), and gameplay left a lot of questions you mentioned. Yes, while technically it was somewhat possible to makeshift party controls like in IWD/BG, overall it wasn't like that. Plus some story branches really made me roll my eyes.
Simply put, for me Bioware between Baldurs Gate and Mass Effect 1 are kinda meh company. I'm not saying they went Andromeda, but as hard as I'm trying, I can't remember a single moment that was really memorable. Other than that sexually abused droid. Poor thing. And HK-47, of course. :D Probably the best that came out of this game.


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GenlyAi: By community mods I really meant community patches (which seemed to be the case, unless I'm misread your earlier post). (I'm a bit confused about how to quote here... I'll try to fix later.
Nuh, it is fine. I mean community patch, same as you.

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GenlyAi: No sure if that was the case where you lived, but D1 simply was not being sold in Brazil at the time! From Diablo 2 on, then, Blizzard came in in "force" in Brazil and I bought legally all their games ever since! (still have D2 box actually!) I'll later read the post on the "comedy in four acts" post! About the story, maybe I was being a bit too harsh, we did have Cain's 'stay awhile and listen' after all. :)
Honestly, due to time I don't remember whether we had legit copies of Blizzard games back in the days. I bought Fallout 1, so some were present, but very rare and expensive. Some time later (around 2000) more games started out to be legitimately present via localized copies. Sadly my localized version (sort of, I don't remember whether it was actually localized) exploded in my drive. :) But then I went to army service, so it wasn't a problem for a while. :D
Cain's fate is one of reasons I don't get D3. Added for sake of being added, like OMG much drama, so tense, very thrilling.

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GenlyAi: On ME, not an expert, I just liked the sci-fi aspects of it tbh, I'll refer to your judgment. I agree on the ending being fundamental to the product though.
I'm not either, especially on space ships combat:), but some things, after you experienced them yourself, you simply can't ignore or let slide. It's not that difficutl to make them right, it will require minor alterations that in no way will affect story. But will look less of a "food stuck between teeth" moments. After all, they don't live under a rock, Edmonton is pretty big city, and has some active military units. Like go ask something not related to secwet squiwwel FOUO information. Nope, artistic integrity.
Post edited October 17, 2019 by RudyLis
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Pherim: Did anyone ever really praise the original NWN campaign? ...
Eh, I've always thought it got an unfair amount of hate. I can sort of get the criticism when it comes to the first and perhaps also the final chapter. But the chapters in between, especially where you are out in the wilderness and countryside I've always thought were a lot of fun.
Post edited October 17, 2019 by Matewis
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Leroux: I did regret buying Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons at first.
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kai2: Glad you made it through! Wonderful experience in-the-end (although I'm not certain I'd have enjoyed it at full price).
To be honest, my feelings were still somewhat mixed at the end. General gameplay and presentation were nice, and the way the gamepad was used to convey emotions at the end was original, too, but all in all I didn't really know what to make of the story and thought it was too bleak to really have much of an emotional effect on me. Sad stories can be impactful and even satisfying in themselves, but this one didn't really feel right and left me at a loss.

Something else I did not like is that IIRC there were some collectables or achievements or bonus tasks of sorts, but the game is linear and there are points of no return without warning and only one autosave slot, so if you accidentally move on too fast without solving that extra task, you'd have to replay the whole game in order to try again, and it's not really a very replayable game.
I bought dungeons and dragons online a few days before it went free to play. I should have done more research. Woops.
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Tallima: I bought dungeons and dragons online a few days before it went free to play. I should have done more research. Woops.
Ouch. Now that reminds me something else, maybe I mentioned in this thread... I did even pre-ordered Star Wars: The Old Republic. It was... just not good, or more like, a disappointment to most buyers. So myself and lots of others left, soon after they went free-to-play (also with a rocky start). (like most "WoW killers")

In the end, all of us "first buyers" only got some credits and some useless fireworks. :p And I could not continue playing my Twi'lek character I was thinking about for quite a while before the game even launched, since that 'race' had to be paid to use. :(
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ReynardFox: On GOG:
-All The Walking Dead seasons now that I've been screwed out of the final chapter.
-Doom 3 BFG. For some stupid reason I showed support, hoping that Betashed might drop the REAL Doom 3 eventually.
Is the final chapter going to be exclusive to Epic?

Also waiting for original Doom 3 + RoE of course
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kai2: Glad you made it through! Wonderful experience in-the-end (although I'm not certain I'd have enjoyed it at full price).
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Leroux: To be honest, my feelings were still somewhat mixed at the end. General gameplay and presentation were nice, and the way the gamepad was used to convey emotions at the end was original, too, but all in all I didn't really know what to make of the story and thought it was too bleak to really have much of an emotional effect on me. Sad stories can be impactful and even satisfying in themselves, but this one didn't really feel right and left me at a loss.

Something else I did not like is that IIRC there were some collectables or achievements or bonus tasks of sorts, but the game is linear and there are points of no return without warning and only one autosave slot, so if you accidentally move on too fast without solving that extra task, you'd have to replay the whole game in order to try again, and it's not really a very replayable game.
Understood. For me it worked well, but I can certainly see your perspective.

Yes, that is a problem. It's one of the few games on console I bought digitally -- enjoyed quite a lot -- but haven't then purchased physically. Probably at least partly because I don't see playing it again anytime soon...? Definitely doesn't seem like an achievement kind of game.

I've wanted to play Fares' next game A Way Out, but it's co-op only and really hate being forced into multiplayer for a story-based game.

Just a quick addition...

I bought a game on GOG awhile back... Blackguards 2. Had a maddening experience with it so played Blackguards 1. Had an even more maddening experience with it. And yet, when I found Blackguards 2 on PS4 for $5 (physical), I bought it again! So, I won't buy a copy of a game I enjoyed -- Brothers -- but I'll buy a game that drives me mad like Blackguards 2. Ugh.
Post edited October 18, 2019 by kai2
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tfishell: Is the final chapter going to be exclusive to Epic?

Also waiting for original Doom 3 + RoE of course
Sounds like The Walking Dead Seasons are timed exclusives on Epic.

From an article on 'trustedreviews.com' (have no idea about the site, which is why I didn't provide a link.) -
This exclusive means that each game of The Walking Dead released by Skybound Games’ was available on the PC exclusively through the Epic Games Store. It’s a timed exclusive, and Howe claims that The Walking Dead will be available on other stores “at some point in the future.” However, it also seems to be going the other way too, as all episodes of The Walking Dead are planned to appear on the Epic Store at some point “within the next two or three weeks.”

As for Doom 3... yeah the BFG edition is to Doom 3 as the Silent Hill HD Collection is to the Silent Hill games. That said at least BFG Edition has a couple of exclusive additions.
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RudyLis: Cain's fate is one of reasons I don't get D3. Added for sake of being added, like OMG much drama, so tense, very thrilling.
Eh, what did you want or expect? The dude must've been pushing 150+ on the age scale.....he had to die at some point.
Wonderboy Dragon's Trap.

Pre-ordered it for PS4 and just played it last month... Pretty visuals, good sound but why the controls have not been modernized...? The movement awful inertia makes it a chore to play and impossible to avoid frustration in silly pixel jumps... Such a waste.

Persona 5

Because Royal will be full price...

Dragon Quest XI (PC)

Because the updated version may never come out there...
Post edited October 18, 2019 by koima57
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tfishell: Is the final chapter going to be exclusive to Epic?
I'm keeping a little hope in the back of my mind that it's just a timed exclusive, but once that's up I have no idea what the puppets walking around in Telltale's skin think of GOG or what storefronts they're likely to support.
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RudyLis: Cain's fate is one of reasons I don't get D3. Added for sake of being added, like OMG much drama, so tense, very thrilling.
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GameRager: Eh, what did you want or expect? The dude must've been pushing 150+ on the age scale.....he had to die at some point.
I can't speak for him, but I'd expect him to be already dead by D3 (fan service be damned) and, sure, his legacy lived on to other characters. I think the "OMG much drama" from the person you quoted was him being sarcastic. :D
Post edited October 18, 2019 by GenlyAi
Blazblue Chronophantasma Extend

The game looks fantastic but It's way too difficult for me...


Driving Emotion Type-S

A racing game made by Squaresoft ? OMG it must be so good.... well not really. The cars are so slippery it's unplayable.


Puyo Pop Fever

From what I heard it's an excellent series but for me this episode was boring.
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GenlyAi: I can't speak for him, but I'd expect him to be already dead by D3 (fan service be damned) and, sure, his legacy lived on to other characters. I think the "OMG much drama" from the person you quoted was him being sarcastic. :D
Or he might've been serious and a fan of that character(or someone who dislikes main characters dying to add drama to a game or film).

As for Cain living so long.....he knew some advanced magic so he might've extended his life a bit that way. Still, he could still be killed with enough force and that is what happened in D3.

BTW have you played D3 yet? I want to talk more on this but don't want to spoil it for you if you didn't play it yet.
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GenlyAi: I can't speak for him, but I'd expect him to be already dead by D3 (fan service be damned) and, sure, his legacy lived on to other characters. I think the "OMG much drama" from the person you quoted was him being sarcastic. :D
Yup, Doge meme - so much very wow.

As for Deckard, while I read expanded lore diagonally (if I could found book on - I'd read it, but not going to buy anything), thus I do not possess the absolute knowledge, I think he is about 80 years old. Even for fantasy settings, in medieval times that's a lot. And while he is last of his line, I was expecting him to "delegate his duties" to someone "off camera", or at least outside of the gameplay, maybe via cutscene.
Don't get me wrong, I like voiceover, and while our interactions with him were kinda limited (after all, all NPCs are just singular functions), he was among "liked" characters. Yet presenting his fate this way, in a game that has such exposition and narrative? I don't know what adjective to use here.
I've heard some explanations like "we need reasons to chase Maghda". Eh... If you're new player you have idea who Deckard Cain is in the first place why would you need to worry. Old players have even less needs to have a "motivational" in such form.
IIRC game went through many stages of "evolution" (which honestly feels more like degradation) of story and narrative, yet as much as I'm forgiving towards developers, I find it is very hard to let it slide here.
Quoting Immortan Joe from Mad Max Dury Road - "Mediocre!".:)