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Posted January 26, 2015
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BKGaming: Ganni. Thanks was just talking about you... as you fixed this last time for me with the Witcher 2. The files were not up though. Thanks man.

This needs an official fix too though. :)

Hmmm it's doing something now, but it's still not working right. See attached pic, that is what happens when I launch it.
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Ganni1987: Can you run it through the terminal and upload a screenshot of the log please?

Also, I have edited the post you linked with a working library regarding the Witcher 2, my ftp isn't the best place and I have since moved everything to my google drive.
Tried, terminal doesn't show anything because the desktop freezes.. I have to logout and back in to fix it.

edit: I wonder if this game has issues with the official AMD driver?
Post edited January 26, 2015 by user deleted
Posted January 26, 2015
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Ganni1987: Can you run it through the terminal and upload a screenshot of the log please?

Also, I have edited the post you linked with a working library regarding the Witcher 2, my ftp isn't the best place and I have since moved everything to my google drive.
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BKGaming: Tried, terminal doesn't show anything because the desktop freezes.. I have to logout and back in to fix it.

edit: I wonder if this game has issues with the official AMD driver?
Can you try running the game with "sudo ./start.sh"? Personally I don't like installing games using the deb archives as I have no control where I want to install them.

I'm using an Nvidia card, unfortunately can't give an answer about that but it could be.

Downloading Mint 17.1 KDE as I write this, I wanna try launching Warband straight from the Live DVD.
Post edited January 26, 2015 by Ganni1987
Posted January 26, 2015
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BKGaming: Tried, terminal doesn't show anything because the desktop freezes.. I have to logout and back in to fix it.

edit: I wonder if this game has issues with the official AMD driver?
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Ganni1987: Can you try running the game with "sudo ./start.sh"? Personally I don't like installing games using the deb archives as I have no control where I want to install them.

I'm using an Nvidia card, unfortunately can't give an answer about that but it could be.

Downloading Mint 17.1 KDE as I write this, I wanna try launching Warband straight from the Live DVD.
Same thing. I'm running Cinnamon if you want to test it. :P
Posted January 26, 2015
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Ganni1987: Can you try running the game with "sudo ./start.sh"? Personally I don't like installing games using the deb archives as I have no control where I want to install them.

I'm using an Nvidia card, unfortunately can't give an answer about that but it could be.

Downloading Mint 17.1 KDE as I write this, I wanna try launching Warband straight from the Live DVD.
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BKGaming: Same thing. I'm running Cinnamon if you want to test it. :P
While I try the live iso try running the game like this:

"./start.sh > Output.txt"

Anything that is written on the terminal will be outputted to a file instead. Since the screen freezes, this method should at least give you some info on what could be the problem.
Posted January 26, 2015
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BKGaming: Same thing. I'm running Cinnamon if you want to test it. :P
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Ganni1987: While I try the live iso try running the game like this:

"./start.sh > Output.txt"

Anything that is written on the terminal will be outputted to a file instead. Since the screen freezes, this method should at least give you some info on what could be the problem.
Just says: Running Mount And Blade - Warband
Posted January 26, 2015
Does appear to be a driver issue according to this post on steam:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/48700/discussions/0/45350790994005647/
Posted January 26, 2015
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BKGaming: Does appear to be a driver issue according to this post on steam:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/48700/discussions/0/45350790994005647/
I was about to say that 99% it's a driver issue. I fired up Mint 17.1 Cinnamon 64bit and tried to run the game. Got the same problem as you did. I could move the mouse but desktop is frozen and the start bar doubled (as in your screenshot).

Next I booted normally and it ran instantly with the proprietary nvidia drivers.

On the other hand, I think GOG would do well to include the libraries within the game's folder. The game runs out of the box and there's no risk of breaking the system.

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For clarification's sake, I ran the same test on Mint 17.1 MATE 64bit and I got the same bad result. I think that at this point it's most definitely a driver issue.
Post edited January 26, 2015 by Ganni1987
Posted January 26, 2015
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BKGaming: Does appear to be a driver issue according to this post on steam:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/48700/discussions/0/45350790994005647/
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Ganni1987: I was about to say that 99% it's a driver issue. I fired up Mint 17.1 Cinnamon 64bit and tried to run the game. Got the same problem as you did. I could move the mouse but desktop is frozen and the start bar doubled (as in your screenshot).

Next I booted normally and it ran instantly with the proprietary nvidia drivers.

On the other hand, I think GOG would do well to include the libraries within the game's folder. The game runs out of the box and there's no risk of breaking the system.

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For clarification's sake, I ran the same test on Mint 17.1 MATE 64bit and I got the same bad result. I think that at this point it's most definitely a driver issue.
Were you using the same proprietary nvidia divers on Mint 17.1 Cinnamon 64bit?
Posted January 26, 2015
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JudasIscariot: I am not sure what's going on but I know Crimsonland requires that same library and I had to install the libraries listed on the game card http://www.gog.com/game/crimsonland and that library did not call for libwayland on my Mint 17.1 machine O.o

I really have no clue what in the heck is going on so the only thing I can suggest is sending us a Support ticket about this so that we can investigate this further.

edit: I will note that I am running Mint 17.1 KDE and not Cinnamon and maaaaybe this is something related to Cinnamon only?

edit 2: you can try the following command, shouldn't break your system this time I promise :)

sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update

then

sudo apt-get upgrade
Judas can you please let your Linux packer to include the following files with the game (Warband)? Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw5Xv02Yq2HrUmE5Ri1xcVI4WFE

By adding these libraries, the game runs straight out of the box without the need to install any packages (and possibly nuke the system.) I think it would really help less experienced users and saves a lot of time and problems. Since GOG is supporting Ubuntu and Mint mainly, this would be a good idea.

The only input the user has to do is to have the correct video card drivers installed, which I believe is something out of GOG's control.

Thanks :-)

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BKGaming: Were you using the same proprietary nvidia divers on Mint 17.1 Cinnamon 64bit?
No, the open source one.

I also ran the tests on Mint 17.1 MATE 64bit twice, one with the open source driver and one with the proprietary and only the proprietary one worked.

It's definitely not a Cinnamon/MATE/KDE issue.

Which version of fglrx are you using (amd drivers)?
Post edited January 26, 2015 by Ganni1987
Posted January 26, 2015
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JudasIscariot: I am not sure what's going on but I know Crimsonland requires that same library and I had to install the libraries listed on the game card http://www.gog.com/game/crimsonland and that library did not call for libwayland on my Mint 17.1 machine O.o

I really have no clue what in the heck is going on so the only thing I can suggest is sending us a Support ticket about this so that we can investigate this further.

edit: I will note that I am running Mint 17.1 KDE and not Cinnamon and maaaaybe this is something related to Cinnamon only?

edit 2: you can try the following command, shouldn't break your system this time I promise :)

sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update

then

sudo apt-get upgrade
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Ganni1987: Judas can you please let your Linux packer to include the following files with the game (Warband)? Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw5Xv02Yq2HrUmE5Ri1xcVI4WFE

By adding these libraries, the game runs straight out of the box without the need to install any packages (and possibly nuke the system.) I think it would really help less experienced users and saves a lot of time and problems. Since GOG is supporting Ubuntu and Mint mainly, this would be a good idea.

The only input the user has to do is to have the correct video card drivers installed, which I believe is something out of GOG's control.

Thanks :-)

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BKGaming: Were you using the same proprietary nvidia divers on Mint 17.1 Cinnamon 64bit?
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Ganni1987: No, the open source one.

I ran the tests on Mint 17.1 MATE 64bit twice, one with the open source driver and one with the proprietary and only the proprietary one worked.

It's definitely not a Cinnamon/MATE/KDE issue.
Thanks, I tried both the open source and proprietary AMD driver and both had the same issue. Not sure how to really go about fixing this. Normally windows I'd just grab the latest driver from the site, but I assume that's not the best idea with Linux.

I'll post over on the games official forums to get some help I guess.
Posted January 26, 2015
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BKGaming: Thanks, I tried both the open source and proprietary AMD driver and both had the same issue. Not sure how to really go about fixing this. Normally windows I'd just grab the latest driver from the site, but I assume that's not the best idea with Linux.

I'll post over on the games official forums to get some help I guess.
You can actually do that but it's not recommended because next time you get a kernel update, chances are the video driver will break and you have to install it again in command line mode. The package manager takes care of all that when you use the prepackaged version.

BTW please update this thread if you find out more about that libSDL2/wayland stuff, there have been a few threads about it. It is weird that there is such a dependency.
Posted January 26, 2015
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JudasIscariot: I am not sure what's going on but I know Crimsonland requires that same library and I had to install the libraries listed on the game card http://www.gog.com/game/crimsonland and that library did not call for libwayland on my Mint 17.1 machine O.o

I really have no clue what in the heck is going on so the only thing I can suggest is sending us a Support ticket about this so that we can investigate this further.

edit: I will note that I am running Mint 17.1 KDE and not Cinnamon and maaaaybe this is something related to Cinnamon only?

edit 2: you can try the following command, shouldn't break your system this time I promise :)

sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update

then

sudo apt-get upgrade
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Ganni1987: Judas can you please let your Linux packer to include the following files with the game (Warband)? Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw5Xv02Yq2HrUmE5Ri1xcVI4WFE

By adding these libraries, the game runs straight out of the box without the need to install any packages (and possibly nuke the system.) I think it would really help less experienced users and saves a lot of time and problems. Since GOG is supporting Ubuntu and Mint mainly, this would be a good idea.

The only input the user has to do is to have the correct video card drivers installed, which I believe is something out of GOG's control.

Thanks :-)

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Ganni1987:
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Ganni1987: No, the open source one.

I also ran the tests on Mint 17.1 MATE 64bit twice, one with the open source driver and one with the proprietary and only the proprietary one worked.

It's definitely not a Cinnamon/MATE/KDE issue.

Which version of fglrx are you using (amd drivers)?
Please write a Support ticket about these kind of things so this all gets collected in one place, thanks! :)
Posted January 26, 2015
Looks like the library issue has been worked around thanks to Ganni1987.
Whatever comes now would need to have the game for debugging purposes, and as I don’t own it I won’t be able to help.

But I’m still on the case and I’m going to install a Mint in a virtual machine to try and understand why you couldn’t install your library in the first place.
If all goes well I might be able to send a fix directly to the Mint team.
Posted January 26, 2015
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Daliz: You can actually do that but it's not recommended because next time you get a kernel update, chances are the video driver will break and you have to install it again in command line mode. The package manager takes care of all that when you use the prepackaged version.

BTW please update this thread if you find out more about that libSDL2/wayland stuff, there have been a few threads about it. It is weird that there is such a dependency.
Basically support said they can't reproduce this on there test machines and told me to do:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

I don't see how that would help seeing as this is a fresh install with all updates already done. Can someone else get Linux Mint Cinnamon 64 bit and test this. Try to download libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 and see if requires libwayland packages. Don't do those as they break Cinnamon, but let me know if it happens.
Posted January 27, 2015
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USERNAME:Daliz#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:86#Q&_^Q&Q#You can actually do that but it's not recommended because next time you get a kernel update, chances are the video driver will break and you have to install it again in command line mode. The package manager takes care of all that when you use the prepackaged version.

BTW please update this thread if you find out more about that libSDL2/wayland stuff, there have been a few threads about it. It is weird that there is such a dependency.#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:86#Q&_^Q&Q#
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You don't even need to install the OS to reproduce this issue, just by loading into the Mint live desktop and try to install libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 it will ask you to install additional wayland:i386 packages, which in turn if you do, it nukes the OS.

The problem stands here: The 64bit version of these packages already comes preinstalled with Mint 17.1 so when you install the i386 (32bit) version it removes the 64bit ones and thus breaking the distro.

TBH I'm not sure why the Mint team didn't make these installable side by side instead of overlapping.

If you really want/need them side by side you'll have to place the 32bit library manually, how to do it:

- Download the package manually by going to http://pkgs.org/

- Type in the search box the name of the library, for example "libwayland-client"

- Since Mint is based on Ubuntu 14.04, expand that section and download: libwayland-client0_1.4.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb

- Once download the deb package, open it with Archive Manager and go like this: usr > lib > i386-linux-gnu > and you'll see 2 files.

- As root, extract them manually in your "/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu" and change the files ownership to "root"

- You now have both 32bit and 64bit libraries of wayland without breaking the system.

I wouldn't suggest using this method for every library you install but in certain cases it's a good workaround. The mini patches I create are done in a similar fashion, but placed in the games folders instead.

Also, if you make use of this method I would strongly suggest to document which files you placed manually. :D

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Post edited January 27, 2015 by Ganni1987
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