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Posted March 31, 2020
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Since I have now come across my first game that does not run on my PC without galaxy, I thought I might open a thread to list such games (if and when more appear), to cater for the shrinking minority of people still buying on GOG but not using galaxy.

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I plan to list here games that (at least for some people) clearly do not work properly without galaxy, but do with galaxy.

Cannot be played at all or beyond a certain point without galaxy:
(1) When The Past Was Around

Significant features not working without galaxy:
(1) Saints Row: The Third Remastered
(2) Two Point Hospital

Has a long-standing major bug in the current version and the best way to work around it is to rollback to an earlier bug-free version, a feature available only in galaxy:
Currently none.

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For historical purposes, I'm listing here past occurrences, since fixed:
(1) For The King
(2) Dungeon Siege III: Treasures of the Sun DLC, part of the Dungeon Siege Collection
(3) Deus Ex: Mankind Divided DLC - Season Pass
(4) Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition

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If you are aware of other such games, please post here as many details as you can.

Hopefully, GOG will do its best to reduce this list to an empty set.
Post edited October 31, 2022 by mrkgnao
Posted March 31, 2020
All games other than gwent should run single player (whatever there is of it) fully offline. If that isn’t the case then I would contact support. Gwent only runs in galaxy, most games multiplayer works only in galaxy, and there have been games which are almost all multiplayer (goblins inc for instance) which have now been removed (although there is one, is kenshi perhaps, which is almost all online.
Posted March 31, 2020
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By way of information about "For The King", here is the text of ticket I have opened with GOG's support.

"I have just installed "For The King" (bought 16 March) and have encountered a major bug.

After I launch it, the title screen appears, followed by a message explaining that one should not expect to finish the game on the first try. I click "understood" (which turns grey), but the game does not progress beyond that point.

This bug is reported several times on the internet. I have attempted all the solutions I could find, including deleting the game's save files and registry entries, disabling my antivirus, updating my video drivers, rebooting my computer, and reinstalling the game. None helped.

I then installed galaxy 1.2.67 (which I don't use), just for testing, and employed it to install the game. The game worked fine and did not get stuck as it did without galaxy.

Further tests have shown that one does not need to install the game via galaxy to have the game run, nor does one even need to have galaxy running. The offline-installed game works fine as long as galaxy is installed on the PC and one has logged in to galaxy with one's GOG credentials at least once (without logging in, it does not work). As soon as galaxy is uninstalled, the offline-installed game stops working.

Since I don't use galaxy and since the game seems not to run without it, I would like a refund. I would gladly buy it again if this bug is ever fixed."

I will update with GOG's response, if and when it arrives.
Post edited March 31, 2020 by mrkgnao
Posted March 31, 2020
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This violates GOGs promise ("...GOG GALAXY 2.0 will remain your optional client for GOG.COM games..."; see https://www.gog.com/galaxy) and MUST be fixed as soon as possible.

If such a list ever gets populated, I'm out of here for sure.
Posted April 01, 2020
There was at least one list like this previously.

Only game I can remember right now that was on the list was X4: Foundations because it demands Galaxy to unlock some game starts. Problem can be solved with a hack though where you unlock all instead of getting them when you are supposed to
Posted April 01, 2020
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mrkgnao: By way of information about "For The King", here is the text of ticket I have opened with GOG's support.

"I have just installed "For The King" (bought 16 March) and have encountered a major bug.

After I launch it, the title screen appears, followed by a message explaining that one should not expect to finish the game on the first try. I click "understood" (which turns grey), but the game does not progress beyond that point.

This bug is reported several times on the internet. I have attempted all the solutions I could find, including deleting the game's save files and registry entries, disabling my antivirus, updating my video drivers, rebooting my computer, and reinstalling the game. None helped.

I then installed galaxy 1.2.67 (which I don't use), just for testing, and employed it to install the game. The game worked fine and did not get stuck as it did without galaxy.

Further tests have shown that one does not need to install the game via galaxy to have the game run, nor does one even need to have galaxy running. The offline-installed game works fine as long as galaxy is installed on the PC and one has logged in to galaxy with one's GOG credentials at least once (without logging in, it does not work). As soon as galaxy is uninstalled, the offline-installed game stops working.

Since I don't use galaxy and since the game seems not to run without it, I would like a refund. I would gladly buy it again if this bug is ever fixed."

I will update with GOG's response, if and when it arrives.
Please do. I hope that GOG will actually fix this bug and not act with their usually "Galaxy First" mentality. As long as it's a bug and that bug is fixed, things are still acceptable (apart from the missing Downloader). But if they don't fix it, they have a game with 'accidental' DRM.
Posted April 01, 2020
As much as I love Galaxy, and the "For The King" game is great fun, this should be fixed by GOG.

Thanks for letting us know! I'll keep an eye out...

All the best!
Posted April 01, 2020
Does not run at all? In the game description for For The King game, they say the following:

Online Co-op Notice: Please note that the GOG Galaxy Client is required to access the online co-op feature.

Where they only mention the Online Co-op. Still...

In any case, I hope the list of "Galaxy required" never gets populated...
Post edited April 01, 2020 by Revontulet9
Posted April 01, 2020
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mrkgnao: I plan to list here games that (at least for some people) clearly do not work without galaxy but do work with galaxy.
How are we defining "work" here?

I think a game that includes a major bug in the latest versions that makes it practically unplayable, even if it is technically sort-of playable, is neither working nor running properly, and therefore could be said not to be working.

One game like that on GOG is Divinity: Original Sin. All the latest versions for the past two years include a game-ruining bug in it, which makes the tooltips for your skills not display properly as they were designed to do.

Due to this bug, you cannot see the level of the skill you are looking at, even though this is vital information that is 100% necessary to play & enjoy the game in a reasonable way, and it is information that you are supposed to be able to see, and that indeed you can see if you are using the earlier versions before this game-wrecking bug was patched into the game (yet apparently it will never be patched back out of the game, as it already hasn't been for the past 2+ years).

Since GOG doesn't make the earlier & non-bugged versions available for download, then the only possible way to play a non-bugged version on GOG is by using Galaxy to rollback the game to an earlier version, before the bug was introduced. And even after doing that, there is still no way that GOG offers to download a non-bugged version of the game in order to create a backup copy of the non-bugged version.

So for those reasons which I've just described, I think Divinity: Original Sin qualifies for the list in the OP.
Post edited April 01, 2020 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Posted April 01, 2020
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mrkgnao: I plan to list here games that (at least for some people) clearly do not work without galaxy but do work with galaxy.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: How are we defining "work" here?

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Some might consider it the same and some might not, so I decided to list it in the OP, but in a separate section, to allow each goglodyte to decide for his or her self.

Do you know which version introduced this bug? Do you know whether the bug is present also in the current steam version?
Post edited April 01, 2020 by mrkgnao
Posted April 01, 2020
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mrkgnao: Do you know which version introduced this bug? Do you know whether the bug is present also in the current steam version?
I don't know if the Steam version has it or not, but Larian (the game developer) wrote a post here on GOG basically saying 2.0.119.430 (A) (two releases old) is the last good version whilst the two newer language updates (Chinese and Korean) are both buggy, and that even after the developer asked GOG +5 months ago, even today the only way of getting the bug-free offline installers is for everyone to individually file a support ticket and each manually request the older version of the offline installers download links (vs the common sense thing of GOG simply adding the older files underneath the newer files in the download list once for everyone). And GOG wonder why their tech support team is overwhelmed...

+1 though to you for making this more visible. I hope you get your issue sorted as clearly you aren't the only one experiencing the problem:-
https://www.gog.com/forum/for_the_king/stuck_at_startup_underrstood_turns_grey_game_seems_fozen
Post edited April 01, 2020 by AB2012
Posted April 01, 2020
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AB2012: I don't know if the Steam version has it or not, but Larian (the game developer) wrote a post here on GOG basically saying 2.0.119.430 (A) (two releases old) is the last good version whilst the two newer language updates (Chinese and Korean) are both buggy, and that even after the developer asked GOG +5 months ago
They asked GOG what? In the linked post they just say they "contacted GOG", no idea what that means. Sending an email "Hello our two newest versions of the game have a game-breaking bug. Hugs and kisses, bye!"?

Why doesn't the developer just fix their game, if they know there is a problem? What the hell?

Or was the developer's advice to GOG that they should remove the two latest versions from the store? I presume people who want Korean or Chinese localization don't want this bug either, right? The game is totally unplayable also for them, with the localization?
Post edited April 01, 2020 by timppu
Posted April 01, 2020
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timppu: They asked GOG what? In the linked post they just say they "contacted GOG", no idea what that means. Sending an email "Hello our two newest versions of the game have a game-breaking bug. Hugs and kisses, bye!"?
I would presume it means "We asked GOG if they could provide the option of downloading the older version until we have a patch ready". I agree Larian should fix it. It's partly on GOG though as right now the download options are 1. Download the buggy version (2.0.119.430 KO update), or 2. Download 5 different outdated patches that each 'upgrade' even earlier outdated non-buggy builds to the buggy version without actually having any links to download any non-buggy version in the first place... It's a confusing mess that really doesn't make any sense vs putting just the last non-buggy full installer up (as Larian recommends) and simply have a patch that adds Chinese / Korean languages for the few who need it.
Post edited April 01, 2020 by AB2012
Posted April 01, 2020
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mrkgnao: Do you know which version introduced this bug? Do you know whether the bug is present also in the current steam version?
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AB2012: I don't know if the Steam version has it or not, but Larian (the game developer) wrote a post here on GOG basically saying 2.0.119.430 (A) (two releases old) is the last good version whilst the two newer language updates (Chinese and Korean) are both buggy, and that even after the developer asked GOG +5 months ago, even today the only way of getting the bug-free offline installers is for everyone to individually file a support ticket and each manually request the older version of the offline installers download links (vs the common sense thing of GOG simply adding the older files underneath the newer files in the download list once for everyone). And GOG wonder why their tech support team is overwhelmed...

+1 though to you for making this more visible. I hope you get your issue sorted as clearly you aren't the only one experiencing the problem:-
https://www.gog.com/forum/for_the_king/stuck_at_startup_underrstood_turns_grey_game_seems_fozen
How come that D:OS thread isn't pin yet? Gog, you lazy butt!

Also, Larian could revert back the game version (if there was no major fixes in those updates) and provide Chinese and Korean as separate language packs. I refuse to believe that it would demand a huge effort.
Posted April 01, 2020
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AB2012: I would presume it means "We asked GOG if they could provide the option of downloading the older version until we have a patch ready". I agree Larian should fix it. It's partly on GOG though as right now the download options are 1. Download the buggy version (2.0.119.430 KO update), or 2. Download 5 different outdated patches that each 'upgrade' even earlier outdated non-buggy builds to the buggy version without actually having any links to download any non-buggy version in the first place... It's a confusing mess that really doesn't make any sense vs putting just the last non-buggy full installer up (as Larian recommends) and simply have a patch that adds Chinese / Korean languages for the few who need it.
I personally think GOG should remove altogether the Chinese / Korean localized versions and offer the last "unbuggy" version only. I mean, what good are the localized versions for even Chinese / Koreans, if they have this game-breaking bug, patch or no patch? Not sure if that is what Larian requested GOG to do, or what. Larian should just pull the localized versions away since they have this (game-breaking?) bug, that's all.

What is the situation on Steam? Does Steam let one downgrade to an earlier version of the game, or does it only have the buggy localized version available?
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