Posted June 29, 2018
Raderofthelostark: Doom - Before I get mobbed, let me preface this by saying that it is a good game. It is a very important game in terms of gaming history. But I think the gameplay is a bit overrated. It is sometimes a chore to find keycards, which is made more problematic considering the game is supposed to be fast-paced. And the controls are clunky, even when I finally figured out how to overcome what was preventing me from rebinding the keys. Yes, I know you can mod it, but that isn't an excuse and I don't want to fumble around with making that work. Also, it is very frustrating how easily you can be hit by things above you when you have trouble aiming at them. Even worse is when things are way below you where you absolutely can't see them and you can still get hit anyway! It is a good game overall, but I think it gets too much of a pass. I feel similarly about Doom II and Final Doom.
Indeed, a simple source port such as ZDoom or GZDoom fixes most of those issues. It is pretty much the only way to play Doom these days. I can agree with Doom not being someone's cup of coffee. The only thing I disagree with are the keycards. They force you to explore the levels and not just speedrun them. This reminds me of the "If Doom was done today" videos. timppu: I played Doom (especially 1, but also 2) a lot in the 90s, finishing it many many times and playing lots of user made levels or total conversions (WADs). It was the reason I missed so many other big classics back then, because I was just playing Doom all the time. I absolutely loved the game and felt it was a technical marvel and a groundbreaking action game, single-handedly making PC the very best gaming system in the whole wide world, from here to eternity, and beyond!
However, nowadays I consider it only to have historical value, a bit like Ultima 1. Yes it has very clunky controls compared to modern FPS games, its game-engine is very limiting and even laughable (like the up/down thing you mentioned) etc. If I want a somewhat similar but more modern experience, I'd rather play e.g. the Serious Sam games.
So yeah, I can fully understand why Doom 1-2 wouldn't wow modern gamers. It should be put into a museum to show kids what their grand-grand-parents played when they were kids, and then the kids can feel sorry for their ancestors that they had to put up with such games.
Wow, just wow... However, nowadays I consider it only to have historical value, a bit like Ultima 1. Yes it has very clunky controls compared to modern FPS games, its game-engine is very limiting and even laughable (like the up/down thing you mentioned) etc. If I want a somewhat similar but more modern experience, I'd rather play e.g. the Serious Sam games.
So yeah, I can fully understand why Doom 1-2 wouldn't wow modern gamers. It should be put into a museum to show kids what their grand-grand-parents played when they were kids, and then the kids can feel sorry for their ancestors that they had to put up with such games.
Original Dooms are still probably one of the best FPSes these days. Historical value my ass. You'd put into a museum a game with one of the longest living ACTIVE gaming communities in existence. I can download a new megawad right now and just switch off for a few days and enjoy one of the best shooters to date. I feel sorry for current gamers for not having experienced the 90s FPSes and they probably never will which is sad. Heck, I started playing Doom seriously after year 2000 and the only things that can compete from after 2000 FPSes are Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Serious Sams.
Clunky controls depends entirely on the person. I have no trouble playing Doom on keyboard only for example. I found mouse extremely clunky and unfit for the game.
And no, I'm not talking through nostalgia glasses. If I want to have a good time and shoot some things I load up Doom. I have no desire to ever replay current shooters (except in rare cases). I could replay Doom infinitely but I don't even have to do that as there is an insane supply of expertly crafted community levels.
And Doom 4 didn't amaze me in the slightest. I'd still load up the original rather than the new one.
Post edited June 29, 2018 by idbeholdME