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Crosmando: Devil Whiskey
Sounds interesting. What is it?
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Dessimu: Sounds interesting. What is it?
It's Bard's Tale, almost exactly in terms of mechanics, but 3D graphics (though it still has hand-drawn animated portraits for characters and enemies). The setting is in some mythological pre-historical period on the island of Orkney (which is a British island) when Elves and Dwarves actually existed.
Far Cry 2. There's so much hate for this one, but I still think it is a brilliant and very engrossing game. If you are dismayed by "respawning enemies", then you are just playing it wrong, admit it!

Furthermore, remember that the PC version has save-anywhere, so USE IT, if you really dislike having to drive all the way to the mission objective again when failing the mission. Don't complain for nothing, just use the fecking save anywhere! It solves that "problem". If you are playing the console version instead without save-anywhere... well boohoo! Serves you right for playing it on a console!

Frankly, the only real complaint I have about FC2 is that it doesn't have good music, like the first Far Cry had, or e.g. Crysis 2 has.

Another might be <span class="bold">Area-51</span>. It is a generic futuristic military FPS, but I still enjoyed it overall. It was somewhat like a poor man's Halo. What is has, and Halo doesn't, is that you can occasionally turn into a big scary alien monster! (due to some alien virus or something you have, I don't recall anymore)

And while we are at it, I think the PC versions of all these were good:

Halo
Halo 2
GTA 3
GTA: Vice City
GTA: San Andreas

People who complain about the PC versions being rubbish are rubbish themselves. It doesn't make you look cool to claim these were inferior to the console versions. The PC versions are fine (and the controls on all these are faaaar superior to the console versions, a fact!), the problem must be in your brains.

Had enough? No? Then go to your mama for some more!
Post edited January 28, 2016 by timppu
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timppu: GTA 3
GTA: Vice City
GTA: San Andreas
I loved loved loved all of those. Well not the porno mag mission in GTA 3. That thing was a pain in the ass.
Oh I forgot:

Wing Commander Prophecy Gold (aka Wing Commander 5)

I've seen many user-reviews how this is supposed to be inferior to the earlier WC games, and somehow a disappointing ending to the series. Come on, this is clearly the best (at least in the main branch, not sure about Privateer 2 as I haven't played it yet) Wing Commander game out there!

And I am talking about the gameplay, not some silly full-motion video story that no one should care about anyway. The gameplay is quite good, I'd say I prefer its gameplay even to e.g. Tie Fighter and Freespace, it is at the same time both more relaxing and more action-packed, if that makes any sense. In Freespace I am constantly annoyed how useless the afterburner is, while in WC:P you can use it so nicely to keep yourself on an enemy's tail, and then let them have it right up in the arse! (figuratively speaking)

Remember to play also the stand-alone expansion pack (Secret Ops). It has even less full-motion video with C-class actors (which is a good thing), and it has better flight music than the original. It is a separate download/entry in your account, when you buy WC:P. I almost missed that when I recently played the game, I almost couldn't figure out where the heck that Secret Ops expansion is or how it is started from the main game (it isn't, it is a separate game using the same game engine).
Post edited January 28, 2016 by timppu
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Atlantico: Played through Alpha Protocol twice, found no bugs. Just a solid, stable, bug-free experience as far as I can tell.

Good game though, don't really get why people hate on it.
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Randalator: I remember the autosave bug, where loading the autosave would sometimes result in the game not loading enemies, items or events. And occasionally the game froze on the loading screen.

The worst though was the atrocious mouse handling. Out of the box, the camera controls were absolutely unplayable. I spent hours hunting down unofficial fixes and trying different ini settings until I had at least something manageable, but it was still anything but stellar.
As I said, played through it twice and never encountered a single bug, crash or save-game issue. Game patched to official patch 1.1

One would think that during this time, I'd have found at least one instance of a save-game issue. Now either I am very lucky or you are not.

AFAIK there's no mouse acceleration outside the main-menu. I hate - nay despise - mouse acceleration, but since it's confined to the main menu only, I don't see a problem. In-game the mouse is very normal.

I literally can't play a game, FPS, 3PS, RTS whatever if it has mouse acceleration. I just can't, it annoys me too much. But since Alpha Protocol doesn't have that, I had no issue playing it.

Perhaps you are misremembering or confusing AP with some other game.
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Atlantico
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timppu: Oh I forgot:

Wing Commander Prophecy Gold (aka Wing Commander 5)

I've seen many user-reviews how this is supposed to be inferior to the earlier WC games, and somehow a disappointing ending to the series. Come on, this is clearly the best (at least in the main branch, not sure about Privateer 2 as I haven't played it yet) Wing Commander game out there!

And I am talking about the gameplay, not some silly full-motion video story that no one should care about anyway. The gameplay is quite good, I'd say I prefer its gameplay even to e.g. Tie Fighter and Freespace, it is at the same time both more relaxing and more action-packed, if that makes any sense. In Freespace I am constantly annoyed how useless the afterburner is, while in WC:P you can use it so nicely to keep yourself on an enemy's tail, and then let them have it right up in the arse! (figuratively speaking)

Remember to play also the stand-alone expansion pack (Secret Ops). It has even less full-motion video with C-class actors (which is a good thing), and it has better flight music than the original. It is a separate download/entry in your account, when you buy WC:P. I almost missed that when I recently played the game, I almost couldn't figure out where the heck that Secret Ops expansion is or how it is started from the main game (it isn't, it is a separate game using the same game engine).
I enjoyed WC:Prophecy, but I do remember being somewhat disgusted at the cheap (supposed but probably) death of Blair.
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Matewis: I enjoyed WC:Prophecy, but I do remember being somewhat disgusted at the cheap (supposed but probably) death of Blair.
Yeah maybe, I guess I didn't pay much attention to the video parts, and I actually preferred Special Ops, also because it didn't really have any story videos. The little story there was was told with the game engine, usually discussions of you and the wingmen in your fighters.

I don't recall being that impressed with the videos in WC3 or 4 either. Maybe they were higher quality, but still crappy, sort of like some space movie wannabes. The highest point was maybe when someone was surprisingly executed when you didn't expect it, and someone becoming a traitor, but still.
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timppu: GTA 3
GTA: Vice City
GTA: San Andreas
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tinyE: I loved loved loved all of those. Well not the porno mag mission in GTA 3. That thing was a pain in the ass.
Note: I played those before Steam replaced at least one or some of them with the version which some claim is inferior, based on the Android version and some music tracks removed. Was it San Andreas or all of them? I don't recall for sure, but I played those before the switch.

So I am unsure if the current versions are a bit crappier now than what I played.
Post edited January 28, 2016 by timppu
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timppu: Yeah maybe, I guess I didn't pay much attention to the video parts, and I actually preferred Special Ops, also because it didn't really have any story videos. The little story there was was told with the game engine, usually discussions of you and the wingmen in your fighters.

I don't recall being that impressed with the videos in WC3 or 4 either. Maybe they were higher quality, but still crappy, sort of like some space movie wannabes. The highest point was maybe when someone was surprisingly executed when you didn't expect it, and someone becoming a traitor, but still.
Never played WC3 but I loved WC4's cinematics. I thought they were awesome! Then again, I was a little kid last time I played the game :) I really should give the game a proper go again, especially since I never managed to finish it due to a problem with the last disc.
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Matewis: I enjoyed WC:Prophecy, but I do remember being somewhat disgusted at the cheap (supposed but probably) death of Blair.
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timppu: Yeah maybe, I guess I didn't pay much attention to the video parts, and I actually preferred Special Ops, also because it didn't really have any story videos. The little story there was was told with the game engine, usually discussions of you and the wingmen in your fighters.

I don't recall being that impressed with the videos in WC3 or 4 either. Maybe they were higher quality, but still crappy, sort of like some space movie wannabes. The highest point was maybe when someone was surprisingly executed when you didn't expect it, and someone becoming a traitor, but still.
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tinyE: I loved loved loved all of those. Well not the porno mag mission in GTA 3. That thing was a pain in the ass.
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timppu: Note: I played those before Steam replaced at least one or some of them with the version which some claim is inferior, based on the Android version and some music tracks removed. Was it San Andreas or all of them? I don't recall for sure, but I played those before the switch.

So I am unsure if the current versions are a bit crappier now than what I played.
I have the originals on disc.
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Atlantico: Perhaps you are misremembering or confusing AP with some other game.
Nope, it was AP. No doubt.

And both issues are well documented:

Autosave bug: http://alphaprotocol.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha_Protocol_bugs
Erratic camera: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/55140-jerky-mouse-fix/ , http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?329305-Alpha-Protocol-Problems-stuttering-mouse-freeze-save-game-etc , http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/55138-patch-wishlist/
I would have said "Duke Nukem Forever", but the game actually has a 70% "Mostly Positive" approval rating on Steam despite some of the highly-vocal hate for it in online forums, so I actually seem to be among the 70% of people who agree with me, and the 30% that don't like it are the minority. :)

http://store.steampowered.com/app/57900/
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Atlantico: Perhaps you are misremembering or confusing AP with some other game.
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Randalator: Nope, it was AP. No doubt.

And both issues are well documented:

Autosave bug: http://alphaprotocol.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha_Protocol_bugs
Erratic camera: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/55140-jerky-mouse-fix/ , http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?329305-Alpha-Protocol-Problems-stuttering-mouse-freeze-save-game-etc , http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/55138-patch-wishlist/
This isn't documented, just some guys on a wiki or a forum telling anecdotal things. Sorry but you can find this on any game, there's always some people with weird and isolated issues. You're just unlucky, but clearly willing to blame a game for faults on your own system.

You're not alone, the internet if full of people like you. Not saying you don't have problems, but when you blame the developer instead of accepting that it's on you, well then I have no sympathy.

If those were actual bugs, I'd have seen them. Bugs do not discriminate.
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Atlantico: If those were actual bugs, I'd have seen them. Bugs do not discriminate.
Yes they do, because a lot of them depend on hardware. GTA IV was unplayable on ATI cards on release, does that mean it's not the developer's fault because you with your nVidia card don't have the same problem?

You didn't have issues? Good for you. But I did and so did a lot of other people. No need to attack me just because I criticized something about Alpha Protocol and you don't want to hear it. I still like this game and consider it deserving of a sequel, remember?
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Randalator