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Maighstir: ... ARE there any games where the title starts with any of the aforementioned letters?
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Lucumo: Hm, just looked around a bit and found "ÜberSoldier" at least. FPS by a Russian developer, released 2006.
So that's one for the Estonians, Germans, and Turks.
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Lucumo: Hm, just looked around a bit and found "ÜberSoldier" at least. FPS by a Russian developer, released 2006.
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Maighstir: So that's one for the Estonians, Germans, and Turks.
Üz 3.0 released 1998 by some American developer (MasterWorks Software).
Älg Invaders: Return of the Gädda released 2016 by a Swedish studio (Wide Pixel Games) which apparently also releases Mega Drive games (they did a Kickstarter of "Tänzer" this year).
Černaja Metka released by Orion (Russian developer). Games with that weird letter seem to be more common.
Post edited December 10, 2018 by Lucumo
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Maighstir: So that's one for the Estonians, Germans, and Turks.
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Lucumo: Üz 3.0 released 1998 by some American developer (MasterWorks Software).
Älg Invaders: Return of the Gädda released 2016 by a Swedish studio (Wide Pixel Games) which apparently also releases Mega Drive games (they did a Kickstarter of "Tänzer" this year).
Černaja Metka released by Orion (Russian developer). Games with that weird letter seem to be more common.
Great! We got one of the Swedish letters.
I'll have to go look up which, if any, language uses Č/č as its own letter (rather than just a modified C/c).

EDIT: Among others Czech, Latvian, Slovak, (Latin) Bosnian, (Latin) Serbian, and apparently Sami use č.
Post edited December 10, 2018 by Maighstir
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Maighstir: Great! We got one of the Swedish letters.
I'll have to go look up which, if any, language uses Č as its own letter (rather than just a C with caron)
Eastern European languages which use latin letters? That would be my guess at least.

ōdi∙um developed by Polish Metropolis Software House (bought by CD Projekt in 2008). It's an RPG. Do they actually have a letter like that? I only know ō from Hiragana (Japanese).
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Maighstir: Great! We got one of the Swedish letters.
I'll have to go look up which, if any, language uses Č as its own letter (rather than just a C with caron)
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Lucumo: Eastern European languages which use latin letters? That would be my guess at least.

ōdi∙um developed by Polish Metropolis Software House (bought by CD Projekt in 2008). It's an RPG. Do they actually have a letter like that? I only know ō from Hiragana (Japanese).
Looking at Wikipedia, it looks like the macron (¯) is only used as a modifier, never to make a new letter with its own position in the alphabet for a language. It's mostly used to make the sound longer (which is why it's used in transcription from Japanese in places where the length of the vowel sound is doubled).
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Lucumo: Eastern European languages which use latin letters? That would be my guess at least.

ōdi∙um developed by Polish Metropolis Software House (bought by CD Projekt in 2008). It's an RPG. Do they actually have a letter like that? I only know ō from Hiragana (Japanese).
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Maighstir: Looking at Wikipedia, it looks like the macron (¯) is only used as a modifier, never to make a new letter with its own position in the alphabet for a language. It's mostly used to make the sound longer (which is why it's used in transcription from Japanese in places where the length of the vowel sound is doubled).
I guess that Polish developer just borrowed it for styling then.

Couldn't find any "Ö" unfortunately. Discovered "O/ Story" (FMV adventure published by Enix) instead, although it is a Playstation 2 game. Can't we count the "O/" as a letter? The Danes have something like that, right?

(Damn forum software won't let me post the character.)

https://strategywiki.org/wiki/%C3%98_Story
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Maighstir: Looking at Wikipedia, it looks like the macron (¯) is only used as a modifier, never to make a new letter with its own position in the alphabet for a language. It's mostly used to make the sound longer (which is why it's used in transcription from Japanese in places where the length of the vowel sound is doubled).
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Lucumo: I guess that Polish developer just borrowed it for styling then.

Couldn't find any "Ö" unfortunately. Discovered "O/ Story" (FMV adventure published by Enix) instead, although it is a Playstation 2 game. Can't we count the "O/" as a letter? The Danes have something like that, right?

(Damn forum software won't let me post the character.)

https://strategywiki.org/wiki/%C3%98_Story
Of course ø is a letter. Not Swedish though, we'll give that one to the Danes.

And yes, the GOG forum is a bit hit-and-miss with much of unicode. Seems it accepts the minuscule variant but not the capital one.

While we're talking about Japanese. Do they need 2000+ games to account for the commonly-used kanji, 13000+ for what is currently available in various encoding standards, 50000+ for the actual full set (including characters rarely-if-ever-used), or is it enough with 40-odd to account for the kana? (but then ん/ン is never use in the beginning of a word, hmm - also, are the kana with dakuten or handakuten counted separately?)

Are there other languages with characters not used at the start?
Post edited December 10, 2018 by Maighstir
I just realized I don't own a single game that starts with Y. Weird.

Here's my list, minus the Y:

Arma 2
Bastion
Colonization
Day of the Tentacle
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Fallout New Vegas
Grim Fandango
Hotline Miami
Into the Breach
Jade Empire
Kingdom Come Deliverance
The Last Express
Mafia II
Noctropolis
Orwell
Psychonauts
Quest for Glory
Rollercoaster Tycoon
Sid Meier's Civilization IV
Tropico 4
Uplink
VA-11 Hall-A
West of Loathing
XCOM Enemy Unknown
Zombie Night Terror