supplementscene: I'm in and it wasn't me who stole the candy on seats 1-10. 10 players is a pretty big SH set up. Are you sure 7v3 is balanced? The games I play tend to be 5v4 or 4v3 or 3v2

Is it still 3 fascist policies to reach Hitler zone?

Cadaver747: Hey, a free bump for you. Have you seen the post from supplementscene? We need only ONE player more!

Microfish_1: Thank you! I had not checked this thread in several days, so thank you for the notification!

joppo: Since Scene is playing I request we decide upfront whether or not we're going to play by Meta. I know Scene likes it, but I prefer we don't and whichever way we go it's best we get it decided before the game begins. Whatever is decided by a majority of players I will gladly abide to.

Also, I am specifically pushing a forum notification to Scene so he knows there's this "conflict" and can present his ideas on the subject.

@Scene: Yes, I know that if played properly Meta raises the chances for a liberal victory. Despite that I am still against it because it makes the game more mechanical and thus more boring. It's probably not much on a problem in SH.io where games take just a few minutes, but in the forum it drags way too long. Particularly voting two or even three governments in a row that are previously decided to fail is a ginourmous borefest.

Not only that, I think it is unfair for the fascist team as well. If the group sticks to Meta the fascists' only chance is to get lucky in seat positioning (and a bit on the deck shuffle). Now imagine if you're on a fascist team that just started the game in terrible positions. You're screwed and there's not much you can do to avoid it. It's simply unfair.

Microfish_1: Welcome!

I don't claim it is or isn't balanced; I know the official rules support 10, so that is what I am allowing.

The rules state Microfish_1: Microfish_1: Thank you! I had not checked this thread in several days, so thank you for the notification!

supplementscene: I don't think we should as I know some of the other players participating do not like it and think it spoils the game dynamic.

ZFR: Also, Micro, please randomise the player order too, not just the roles.

supplementscene: It's not about it being a 10 player game but rather the lack of fascist roles. With only 3 fascists and 7 Liberals, the fascists would have to kill 4 Liberals to be on level terms, which isn't feasable. They also are unlikely to be in government and all liberal governments are more likely. Which essentially would make it a Liberal walk over. Essentially the only fascist win condition I believe would be electing Hitler as chancellor in the Hitler zone.

So while it is completely your game and you decision I think having 4 fascist roles and 6 Liberal roles makes it fairer to the fascist team. It is also in the rules that 9 or 10 player games have 3 fascists and a Hitler.

https://www.secrethitler.com/assets/Secret_Hitler_Rules.pdf

'Make sure you have the correct number of
ordinary Fascists in addition to Hitler!'

ZFR: Also, Micro, please randomise the player order too, not just the roles.