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Breja: Not to mention a few million people.
The majority of this statisic is a big lie, most casualties resulted between 1917 and late 1930, which is due to the power wars.

Then again, the motives for 1917 revolution were due to bad economical state and oppresive imperial Russian government (exactly like Great Britain, btw). The communist revolution itself was externally funded, very probably by Europe to destroy Russia when it was in weak state - but the outcome was unexpected as they did not expect new goverment to survive, expecting just fragmentation and mass chaos, let alone become independent. The simularity to Ukrainian maidan is extreme to 1917-1930, with exactly same mass media brainwashing, corruption, extreme government brutality and secret police jailing and killing people just for expressing opinions.
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TARFU: One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic. - Joseph Stalin
Quote is not attributed to him and is part of anti-soviet propaganda.
Post edited March 30, 2016 by Lin545
Erdogollum is doing well in the megalomaniacal department but if he wants to make it onto the Top 10 list of most eccentric dictators of the 20th century, he still needs to try just a little harder:

http://listverse.com/2011/06/20/top-10-craziest-modern-dictators/?utm_content=1009956#37624342
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Breja: Not to mention a few million people.
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Lin545: The majority of this statisic is a big lie, most casualties resulted between 1917 and late 1930, which is due to the power wars.

Then again, the motives for 1917 revolution were due to bad economical state and oppresive imperial Russian government (exactly like Great Britain, btw). The communist revolution itself was externally funded, very probably by Europe to destroy Russia when it was in weak state - but the outcome was unexpected as they did not expect new goverment to survive, expecting just fragmentation and mass chaos, let alone become independent. The simularity to Ukrainian maidan is extreme to 1917-1930, with exactly same mass media brainwashing, corruption, extreme government brutality and secret police jailing and killing people just for expressing opinions.
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TARFU: One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic. - Joseph Stalin
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Lin545: Quote is not attributed to him and is part of anti-soviet propaganda.
Easy to imagine him saying it, however.

So, how do you explain Holodomor and Katyn forest massacre? Is that anti-soviet propaganda, too?
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Breja: Not to mention a few million people.
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Lin545: The majority of this statisic is a big lie,
Sure it is.
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TARFU: Easy to imagine him saying it, however.

So, how do you explain Holodomor and Katyn forest massacre? Is that anti-soviet propaganda, too?
I don' t recommend imagining things. This is what propaganda typically expects and targets. Prefer 1st hand source and unbiased research.

Holodomor was a natural occurance and was not result of goverment work. Yes, it is mis-used a lot for anti-soviet propaganda.

Katyn was typical secret police (NKVD) 193x act, which is not specific to communism, but to specific
madmen. Fanatics, dehumanisation of victims ("enemy", "state enemy", "democracy enemy", "untermensch" etc etc) and violence glorified by state.
Post edited March 30, 2016 by Lin545
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Breja: This thread makes me sad. And scared.
^This
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vsr: It is known, that there are soldiers from private military companies from Poland and USA, military instructors from NATO.
Name one Polish PMC. :P
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vsr: It is known, that there are soldiers from private military companies from Poland and USA, military instructors from NATO.
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F4LL0UT: Name one Polish PMC. :P
I know it's bad to give advices, but I don't think you should feed the trolls. If they're not, then it's simpler - they're idiots. Black US mercenaries, Polish PMCs, etc. It's a rich and fun world - the propaganda. HE SAW IT ON A TV AND THE INTERNET ->>>> IT IS TRUE!!!
I mean it's a laugh to read through such bullshit from time to time, but at the same time it is said how good the propaganda actually works.
This escalated quickly.
Someone mentions Putin and it's cold war all over again...

What would happen if someone mentioned Gandhi?
Post edited March 30, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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vsr: It is known, that there are soldiers from private military companies from Poland and USA, military instructors from NATO.
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F4LL0UT: Name one Polish PMC. :P
ASBS Othago.
Jerzy Dziewulsk - he is the owner of unknown private military company in Poland.

http://orientalreview.org/2014/06/10/sikorski-and-dziewulski-the-strategy-and-tactics-of-the-neo-commonwealth/
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blotunga: Since we already derailed the thread, I'm sure the russians are proud of their army invading half of Ukraine... not sure how the Ukrainians feel about it.
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Breja: When Russia does it, It's called "liberating", not "invading". And if you don't like it, clearly you are an agent of the western powers.
Your talk is counter revolutionary comrade. Now time for re-education in beautiful holiday town of Vorkuta.
Someone who reads the title and the rest of the topic quickly might get the impression that Erdogan is in fact Putin.
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Klumpen0815: This escalated quickly.
Someone mentions Putin and it's cold war all over again...

What would happen if someone mentioned Gandhi?
Mother Theresa would wreck his shit!
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Engerek01: Someone who reads the title and the rest of the topic quickly might get the impression that Erdogan is in fact Putin.
Hahaha. :D
Cognitive dissonance is to be blamed i suppose. Guys didn't like this "index of aggressiveness" in western media. :P

I just mentioned, that Lithuania's president Grybauskaite blocked SPUTNIKNEWS.LV, because she doesn't like the content (too much criticism, i suppose).

Why ARD doesn't make movies about this butch?
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Engerek01: Someone who reads the title and the rest of the topic quickly might get the impression that Erdogan is in fact Putin.
Monozygotic twins. I didn't tell you that.