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AzureKite: Hear me about what? About history? Bandera had as much or even less cooperation with Hitler as Stalin did. After some point in time it backfired the same as to the latter schmuck. You judge whole countries and nations by the actions you see fitting for the purpose of branding them, while ignoring everything else. I don't feel any obligation to explain anything to someone, who uses confirmation bias as a valid argument for discussion. Be it Russia or Poland or any other state that at some point in history had a grip on these lands also commited atrocities, but I don't go around the forum sticking them in any remotely related discussion.
And using Bible as a moral compass never did any good to humanity throughout history.
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Lin545: I spill my drink! Yes, being a huge liar is also big part of it. What else am I ignoring? Perhaps this? Confirmation bias? No nazis in Baltic with Nazi BATTALION? Ahaha! Really shut up. Claiming Ukraine is free of nazis is equal to denying Stalin being communist. If you were neighbored by USA instead of Russia, your country would be one big desert.
Elaborate in which post did I deny the existence of such groups? And Baltic too. If you're so keen on exploiting history, then do share with everyone about military organizations/batallions/divisions which operated on the territory of Russia at that time and cooperated with the Third Reich. Just for the sake of honesty. I specifically do not post any examples myself, I want to see if you even have a slightest grip of that concept. Because otherwise you're plainly biased and don't see a log in your own eye.
And if you decide to return to reality and modern times - almost every modern country in Europe has a percentage of someone who can be called radical nationalists. Liar is someone who calls such countries nazi or fascist state just by the example of minority, ignoring everything else.
Post edited March 31, 2016 by AzureKite
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Lin545: Hi! I see you can paste links. But can you read them, hm?
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Vitek: That's weird question but yes, I can.
So, what do the first two paragraphs say?
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Lin545: So, what do the first two paragraphs say?
Oh, sorry, I haven't realised you can't read them and want me to read them for you. Sorry, my bad.

Here they are:
"The Russian Liberation Army (Russian: Русская освободительная армия, Russkaya osvoboditel'naya armiya, abbreviated in Cyrillic as РОА, in Latin as ROA, also known as the Vlasov army) was a group of predominantly Russian forces that fought under German command during World War II. The army was led by Andrey Vlasov, a defected Red Army general, and members of the army are often referred to as Vlasovtsy (Власовцы). In 1944, it became known as the Armed Forces of the Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia (Вооружённые силы Комитета освобождение народов России, ВС КОНР, VS-KONR in Latin).

The ROA was organized by former Red Army general Andrey Vlasov, who tried to unite Russians opposed to communism and to the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin with the goal of fighting with Germany to liberate Russia. The volunteers were mostly Soviet prisoners of war but also included White Russian émigrés (some of whom were veterans of the anti-communist White Army from the Russian Civil War). On 14 November 1944 it was officially renamed the Armed Forces of the Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia, with the KONR being formed as political body for the army to be loyal to. On 28 January 1945, it was officially declared that the Russian divisions no longer formed part of the German Army, but would directly be under the command of KONR"
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AzureKite: Elaborate in which post did I deny the existence of such groups? And Baltic too.
"Nazi BS" much?

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AzureKite: If you're so keen on exploiting history, then do share with everyone about military organizations/batallions/divisions which operated on the territory of Russia at that time and cooperated with the Third Reich. Just for the sake of honesty. I specifically do not post any examples myself, I want to see if you even have a slightest grip of that concept. Because otherwise you're plainly biased and don't see a log in your own eye.
Why should I list your friends?

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AzureKite: And if you decide to return to reality and modern times - almost every modern country in Europe has a percentage of someone who can be called radical nationalists. Liar is someone who calls such countries nazi or fascist state just by the example of minority, ignoring everything else.
Give me an equivalent of Nazi Battalion in current Germany or Great Britain. Is this a minority? Ah, ups - RT are liars, eh? Perhaps that is minority (eng subs)?

What I am ignoring? Whats your motto again? Heil Ukraine, Glory to Heroes, Heil to Nation, Death to enemies?

Please, LIST those mentioned heroes. Isn't that easy task? Gog forum lacks spoilers, sorry to spoil: a) Bandera b) Shuhevich
Heroes?
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Vitek: Oh, sorry, I haven't realised you can't read them and want me to read them for you. Sorry, my bad.
That means you can paste, but can you read?

a group of predominantly Russian forces that fought under German command during World War II
Post edited March 31, 2016 by Lin545
Hail mother Russia!
You people say bad 'bout Putin? I show bad is you!
You insult glorious leaders of mother Russia you insult all us Russians!
We strong, you weak, we could flatten you in seconds, look at our topless leader, image of strong man.
We good and don't invade, we liberate you from evil scum.
What Erdogan? Don't matter, I here to prove mother Russia is clean, holy and best of world, no care 'bout Erdowhatever.

There's a pattern throughout this thread and it feels awfully familiar.
Post edited March 31, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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Klumpen0815: Hail mother Russia!
You people say bad 'bout Putin? I show bad is you!
You insult glorious leaders of mother Russia you insult all us Russians!
We strong, you weak, we could flatten you in seconds, look at our topless leader, image of strong man.
We good and don't invade, we liberate you from evil scum.
What Erdogan? Don't matter, I here to prove mother Russia is clean, holy and best of world, no care 'bout Erdowhatever.

There's a pattern throughout this thread and it feels awfully familiar.
It sounds like a bad, not funny trump thread.
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Gremlion: Why don't you ask people which live in Crimea, like me?
I got a job in Crimean ministry last year, my ID card and phone with location in Simferopol as proofs:
http://i.imgur.com/VWnByau.jpg
If you want more proofs, just ask me, find in google any monument, I can do photo with the phrase you want.
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Trilarion: So, what should I ask you? I totally believe that you work in Simferopol. I don't know exactly why you showed my your passport and location.
it's not a passport, that's job id. thus it has monogram of Crimean coat of arms.
You can ask me what people there think about this referendum, their hopes, dreams, plans, comparisons...
You can ask me about Crimean tartars, some of them are my coworkers...
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AzureKite: Elaborate in which post did I deny the existence of such groups? And Baltic too.
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Lin545: "Nazi BS" much?

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AzureKite: If you're so keen on exploiting history, then do share with everyone about military organizations/batallions/divisions which operated on the territory of Russia at that time and cooperated with the Third Reich. Just for the sake of honesty. I specifically do not post any examples myself, I want to see if you even have a slightest grip of that concept. Because otherwise you're plainly biased and don't see a log in your own eye.
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Lin545: Why should I list your friends?

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AzureKite: And if you decide to return to reality and modern times - almost every modern country in Europe has a percentage of someone who can be called radical nationalists. Liar is someone who calls such countries nazi or fascist state just by the example of minority, ignoring everything else.
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Lin545: Give me an equivalent of Nazi Battalion in current Germany or Great Britain. Is this a minority? Ah, ups - RT are liars, eh? Perhaps that is minority (eng subs)?

What I am ignoring? Whats your motto again? Heil Ukraine, Glory to Heroes, Heil to Nation, Death to enemies?

Please, LIST those mentioned heroes. Isn't that easy task? Gog forum lacks spoilers, sorry to spoil: a) Bandera b) Shuhevich
Heroes?
Stop insulting yourself. This is getting pathetic, because it seems you cannot or don't want to even read. Quote me about modern nazi military batallions in Germany. And what meaning of the world "almost" you don't understand. Also, you don't even distinguish between the general term of "nationalist" and more specific term "nazi".
And nazi bullshit is nazi bullshit. You once again brand the country by the few.

Do keep posting links with Svoboda schmucks who didn't even pass the elections barrier for the last parliament. It just disproves your own point.

Not naming other collaborationists from Soviets clearly shows you don't want to even try being honest. Just seek and throw some video proving your words, ignore everything else. Do a research on biases at least, before getting into discussions for the sole purpose of slandering other countries, nations and their histories.
Post edited April 01, 2016 by AzureKite
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Klumpen0815: Hail mother Russia!
Germans should not use this. Its politically inappropriate, me thinks.

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Klumpen0815: You people say bad 'bout Putin?
Media BS about him is not enough? Sure, jump on the bandwagon with Pussies, protest for the sake of it. Me think its fully justified to "say bad things", when bad things really happen. By really happen, I mean proven information from 1st source. For example - current Erdogan event, or Crimean events - for those citizens who did not want it to become part of Russia.

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Klumpen0815: I show bad is you!
The Russian Reversal is actually not russian, but invented by ukrainian jewish immigrant to America.

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Klumpen0815: You insult glorious leaders of mother Russia you insult all us Russians!
Insult Washington for the sake of insult and claim that does not insult all Americans.

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Klumpen0815: We strong, you weak, we could flatten you in seconds, look at our topless leader, image of strong man.
Thats a good troll! But I think, Chuck Norris is still stronger.

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Klumpen0815: We good and don't invade, we liberate you from evil scum.
Unfortunately, that one is true, if you do research.
America also liberated Japan from evil scum after Pearl Harbor? Or was that invasion?

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Klumpen0815: What Erdogan? Don't matter, I here to prove mother Russia is clean, holy and best of world, no care 'bout Erdowhatever.

There's a pattern throughout this thread and it feels awfully familiar.
Yeah, people posted stuff, which I objected and proven with links. The pattern is that politics stink, but nevertheless part of the world.
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Klumpen0815: Hail mother Russia!
You people say bad 'bout Putin? I show bad is you!
You insult glorious leaders of mother Russia you insult all us Russians!
We strong, you weak, we could flatten you in seconds, look at our topless leader, image of strong man.
We good and don't invade, we liberate you from evil scum.
What Erdogan? Don't matter, I here to prove mother Russia is clean, holy and best of world, no care 'bout Erdowhatever.

There's a pattern throughout this thread and it feels awfully familiar.
You reminded me of this :D
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AzureKite: Do keep posting links with Svoboda schmucks who didn't even pass the elections barrier for the last parliament. It just disproves your own point.
I just love that ukrainian doublethinking
"Yes, we have nazi party, this proves that there are no nazis."
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AzureKite: Stop insulting yourself. This is getting pathetic, because it seems you cannot or don't want to even read. Quote me about modern nazi military batallions in Germany. And what meaning of the world "almost" you don't understand. Also, you don't even distinguish between the general term of "nationalist" and more specific term "nazi".
You are right. I don’t differentiate in types of sh!t.

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AzureKite: Do keep posting links with Svoboda schmucks who didn't even pass the elections barrier for the last parliament. It just disproves your own point.
And Lyashko Radical Party.
And Right Sector.
Sorry for ignoring the two major oligarch parties, which support ethnic cleanings in the East.

Do a quick tolerance test in Ukraine. Unroll a big flag of:
a) Nazi germany
b) Soviets union

The results from doing the same in Europe would be quite opposite.

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AzureKite: Not naming other collaborationists from Soviets clearly shows you don't want to even try being honest. Just seek and throw some video proving your words, ignore everything else. Do a research on biases at least, before getting into discussions for the sole purpose of slandering other countries, nations and their histories.
Throw them in the same kettle with Bandera & co.

No, not "countries", not "other." Your exact country, for this exact post. So much "bullshit about nazis".
Post edited April 01, 2016 by Lin545
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Lin545: a group of predominantly Russian forces that fought under German command during World War II
Yes?
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Vitek: Yes?
So, whats your opinion on nazis like them?

Edit: Some relation explanation.
Post edited April 01, 2016 by Lin545
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Lin545: From video - being gay is not illegal in Russia. Please read the law. Although, not sure if you are trolling.
Sorry, it's a new imperialist invention called humor. You wouldn't have heard of it, I'm pretty sure the KGB is keeping a lid on that.