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Starmaker: ...
You have gone completely off the rails. Calm down. Trilarion never said anything about subhumans for heaven's sake. There is quite a gap between stating that one has difficulties understanding another nation's mentality, and calling people "degenerate filth" and calling for gas chambers. I'm sure you're quite sane enough to understand that distinction, right?

At worst Trilarion phrased his remark in a way you find questionable. He didn't even make any definite statements, just expressed his confusion. If you found it offensive somehow you surely could pointthat out to him in a better way than calling him a racist asshole. And now you are just throwing more shit.

You seemed like an ok person before, so I assume that the nasty tone of this thread and some indeed terrible things said here knocked you off balance. Calm down, and try to see that you've really overreacted. With all the nasty things happening around here off late I hate to see two sensible people insult one another like that for no good reason.
Post edited March 31, 2016 by Breja
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Starmaker: ... No, seriously. What the fuck wrong with that asshole. I'm too shocked for question marks, like a parent of a pedophile's victim. ...
Seriously, something is wrong with you! You exxagerate tremendously. You better calm down. But as long as you call me an asshole I will happily return the favor.
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Calamitus: I mean that good (ethical) politicians almost do not exist. Putin? Obama? Erdogan? Merkel? All the same.
But how would you decide whom to vote for then if they are all the same? Throwing a coin or maybe not voting at all?
Post edited March 31, 2016 by Trilarion
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Starmaker: ... No, seriously. What the fuck wrong with that asshole. I'm too shocked for question marks, like a parent of a pedophile's victim. ...
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Trilarion: Seriously, something is wrong with you! You exxagerate tremendously. You better calm down. But as long as you call me an asshole I will happily return the favor.
Always mind, that patriotism is extremely strong among Russians especcially recently.
As soon as they think their nation or leader is insulted, they lash out.
To me, that's a clear sign of something being terribly wrong where this mindset is created.

Even seeing justifications of Stalin here is too much for me and even worse than the sanctification of Putin.
I'm not willing to enter this discussion anymore, especcially since it's off-topic and I think it's good that Erdogan is finally in focus while nearly nobody seemed to care about his bs before.

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Calamitus: I mean that good (ethical) politicians almost do not exist. Putin? Obama? Erdogan? Merkel? All the same.
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Trilarion: But how would you decide whom to vote for then if they are all the same? Throwing a coin or maybe not voting at all?
There are always enough other people available who never get a chance.
Only one of the parties I ever voted made it into parliament at all and it was just the local one but at least I have never supported radicals, someone who has already proven his corruption or not voted at all (which in the end is a split vote for all the parties available including the worst ones like NPD and CDU).

Edit: Terminology
Post edited March 31, 2016 by Klumpen0815
This thread = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6stDUCFpWs

Awesome entertainment guys :D
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Klumpen0815: Always mind, that Nationalism is extremely strong among Russians especcially recently.
As soon as they think their nation or leader is insulted, they lash out.
To me, that's a clear sign of something being terribly wrong where this mindset is created.
Nationalism? You're crazy.
Russia is multinational country. There are 194 nationalities live in Russia.
It is something, that your country failed to achieve.

Maybe if you will stop spreading lies, this thread will finally return to ontopic. :P
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vsr: It is something, that your country failed to achieve.
My country? Damn, I didn't even know that I have one. Where's my throne?!
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vsr: It is something, that your country failed to achieve.
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Klumpen0815: My country? Damn, I didn't even know that I have one. Where's my throne?!
In the toilet room. :P
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vsr: Nationalism? You're crazy.
Russia is multinational country. There are 194 nationalities live in Russia[/url].
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism
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vsr: Nationalism? You're crazy.
Russia is multinational country. There are 194 nationalities live in Russia[/url].
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Vitek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism
If you're looking for Nationalism, go to Baltic countries or to Ukraine (preferably).
Oh, yes, please wear something red-colored, when you'll be in Ukraine. =)
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Interesting, the term is mostly used in a different way here.
Call it patriotism then.
Post edited March 31, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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Klumpen0815: Interesting, the term is mostly used in a different way here.
Call it patriotism then.
Call me Ishmoel.
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Klumpen0815: Interesting, the term is mostly used in a different way here.
Call it patriotism then.
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vsr: Call me Ishmoel.
I call you a patriot and imho that's not a good thing although I know that Americans and Russians tend to see this as something positive.
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Holy shit. Some butthurt russians here. I strongly encourage everyone to visit Baltic countries even as a tourist. Don't mind the bullshit about nazis.

About Turkey I'd like to hear from the people living there, what they think about Kurds and whether they should be given their own state or not. Thanks.
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Trilarion: But how would you decide whom to vote for then if they are all the same? Throwing a coin or maybe not voting at all?
What's the point in voting these days? The system itself is completely corrupt, it will not allow even a single honest person to do something inside of it. Either you will have to live by their rules or they will just kick you out. So what choice do we have in Russia? United Russia - the most corrupt and currently ruling party. Communist party which supports everything UR does (communists want to give church even more rights. communists support church...). Just Russia. I dont even what's difference between them and UR. Liberal Democratic Party. They have eccentric leader who acts like clown. That's all. Basically its one huge organisation where "different" parties have only purpose to make an illusion that you have a choice to make.

Then we have various "liberal" parties which are completely useless because nobody believes in them (they can't control media after all) and also exist to make illusion above. And then you have many various different parties nobody heard about. Are they thieves who will steal everything like UR? Maybe they care about common people? Nothing matters. Because current system will not allow them do anything at all. 146%.
Post edited March 31, 2016 by Calamitus