richlind33: As I said in my other post, I think it's wanting to broaden the market, but also a case of grossly exaggerating the significance of social media "outrage". Thankfully, that seems to have peaked and is now in it's death throes.

LootHunter: A1 "Why the fuck do we have right wing idiots and SJW-s in the first place? Identities are powerful thing."
That's kinda my point. It's mostly SJW and nationalists who can't play characters, who are not of their race, gender, sexuality, etc.

A2 "You are telling me you are exception?"
You tell me. I've enjoyed playing Beyond Good and Evil and BloodRayne, while being a man and Jade and Rayne - women. I liked the story in Dreamfall Chapters, despite Kian was gay, unlike me. When I played Unreal 2 I didn't even pay attention that John Dalton was black (and I'm white). And I like Duke Nukem despite him being blond and strong, unlike me. Oh, and Tails is one of my favourite character, despite being antropomorphyc fox.

Yes, in MMO I do tend to customize my character in my liking (though not entirely), but I don't have a problem relating to a character of different social group. And I've actually played Overwatch, but it was a short session, so I was able to play only as Winston.

B) And how large is SJW demographic? Is it big enough to compensate alienation of players who are agains "political correctness"?

C) It doesn't. It isn't. It's not.

D) I don't argue with that.

E) Am I the only one who is confused seing "whales" and "marginalized demographic" to have (supposedly) huge overlap?

Mafwek: E) ...most people who play games don't have problems with culturally left content.

Mafwek: A) Well, we found your subgroup. You are a Sonic fan, gross.

B) Prediction for the future: population mostly culturally left. At least in economically significant groups.

C) Yes it is. You aren't living in the West.

E) Read what I said in B), most people who play games don't have problems with culturally left content. Also who says there is overlap? Modern games aren't made for particular group, they are made for everyone, with different type of content targeting different types of people.
Seriously, your understanding of capitalism isn't very good. Heavy ideological influence I am afraid.

LootHunter: A) So am I anthropomorphic hedgehog? O_o

B)+E) Define "culturally left". Don't forget to make a distinction between "culturally left" and "culturally far left".

C) So that's why Disney's Star Wars, Star Trek: Discovery and last season of Doctor Who have so "wide" appeal?

Mafwek: If identity didn't play role, we wouldn't have culture wars, SJW-s and alt-right. Or you idiots merely fight because you are bored like me?

Lol Star Wars. That Fucking Abomination made 2.068 billion dollars; TLJ made 1.333 billion dollars, didn't pass well in China, but got positive reviews from all my friends unlike TFA, and it was liked by plenty of people who don't have time to waste on internet arguing about how movie sucks. Nerds...

Marvel movies made much more money than that, are you going to argue they aren't politically correct?

Mafwek: If identity didn't play role, we wouldn't have culture wars, SJW-s and alt-right. Or you idiots merely fight because you are bored like me?

Mafwek: Lol Star Wars. That Fucking Abomination made 2.068 billion dollars; TLJ made 1.333 billion dollars, didn't pass well in China, but got positive reviews from all my friends unlike TFA, and it was liked by plenty of people who don't have time to waste on internet arguing about how movie sucks. Nerds...

Mafwek: Marvel movies made much more money than that, are you going to argue they aren't politically correct?

dgnfly: 1. The problem is they are staying in the center hence why todaýs gaming and general media is run by the extreme left which simply are the SJW and they don't seem to worry about what fascistic nature they impose on others, Every main social media platform right now is ultra Bias and I only see one side calling them out while centrist seems to be ok with all the censorship to a point that they'll just make excuses for it. Censorship in gaming is only allowed because the majority seems to be ok with it even if it doesn't have a valid reason to be censored other then the usual hysteria. All those retarded ''What If'' moments we might as well ban any form of entertainment while we at it.

2. Freedom, in general, is absolute so you can't say you are for certain forms of freedom but not the other. There is such a thing as a consequence which is made up the law in general so there are no needs for further rules that tighten freedoms any more than they already are. People mostly use NPC terms/phrases cause they don't know any better and try to bluff their way through a conversation hoping the other side is more ignorant towards the subject. SJW are barely in a position of being right cause they use feelings over facts.

3. Majority of Germans during WW2 were poverty stricken there was barely any rich opportunist, Centrist are mostly middle class hence why they barely bother to pick a side cause they to have nothing to lose or gain and are contempt with the position they are now. Poor are mostly left wing and rich mostly right wing. Centrist some times veer to the right or left but only in small differences of opinions and moral standards. Even in an election you still need the majority vote and seeing as the turn-outs become lower each time you'd say people started caring less about what is going to happen regardless of it taking them under. And this is the same in debate and if you want to change in gaming, Many voices make a change while the silent ones can just take it up the backside sorta speak.

4. Yes, Ubisoft is trying to get rid of Politics in their gaming, I think they are starting to notice that people are tired of Gender/identity politics in their gaming cause it gives a lot of bad press amongst the actual gamers, while the casuals may praise them they are still the minority players in the end. The Minority SJW or extreme leftist, for the most part, have been able to get away with Fake outrage to a point that company's bend over backward to please them but they must be aware by now they will never be satisfied, And the gaming press is an utter joke, playing high and might with their articles bashing company's if they don't kiss their assess. ON some sense Ubisoft is already kinda late cause they did get a lot of flak for their alternative History with Assassin's Creed Odyssey, I'm a big History fan so I found it utterly insulting they could have just shown the raw history of the Spartans but that wouldn't suit the mentally weak these days that get triggered with actual history.


If I were a company I'd just let them boycott it. The total in America is just around 5 percent so nothing much will be lost there and I doubt most of them are actual gamers. The Gaming industry is stagnant as hell cause there is a lack of expressive freedom, Everything is subject to scrutiny by the SJW hate mob, And now even company's full of those retards dictating their dogma on the rest.

As an example of how retarded the left has become you just need to follow the youtuber TimPool while he shows the constant retardation of the left and their fake outrage from Feminism to other retarded groups.

babark: I'm confused as to why you think gog owes you (or the game authors) an explanation as to why they rejected a game, and why you think it isn't a "valid reason". It is simply a reason you don't personally know. As for the game in question, two dozen very valid reasons were suggested by other users, any one of which could have been applied as the reason to reject that game.

Also pretty funny that you think all those great video games aren't intentionally inherently political. You think existing in a fantasy land means games aren't political? You think that not being realistic means games aren't political? Games have been political since the beginning, you're just noticing now, because you don't like their trend to openness.

Missile Command (first game that came to mind) came out almost 40 years ago, but has had lots of ports and copies (I think it was even packaged with one of the windows). It's a very simple game where you have to fire at and destroy missiles trying to hit your cities. But the gameplay, progression, and implicit plot tells a highly political story of the inevitable destruction of a nuclear armed world through nuclear holocaust.
What a filthy SJW the developer was!

Deus Ex, which you mentioned, deals with very real political themes including government distrust (conspiracy theories) and globalism.
Filthy SJW!

Monkey Island developer Ron Gilbert specifically stated he wanted to move away from boring tired tropes involving the dude rescuing the lady in video games, resulting in Elaine, who doesn't need anyone to rescue her (and would've gotten free herself if the hero of the game didn't interfere).
FILTHY SJW!

Mass Effect: Andromeda is not political according to your definition, because it is a "what if" scenario too. Can a game only be political if they try to "replicate the real world to its fullest"? I don't get it.

I'm not sure you've clearly laid out in your head what games are political, what games are political but that's ok, and what games are eeeeevil! Right now it simply seems to be "These games make me uncomfortable, thus they're baaaad!"

babark: dgnfly said he wants his games without politics. I pointed out that almost no game is without politics, and how very often the great games are great BECAUSE of them having politics. He was given several examples before my post, and tried putting forward the case that those games don't count, because...I'm not sure- they're fantasy, or they only take part of the real world, or they aren't fanfiction. I'm not sure what his reasoning was.

krakataul: ME Andromeda Devolopment Lead Team:
Project Leadership: Aaryn Flynn, Yanick Roy. Creative Director: Mac Walters, Producers: Fabrice Condominas, Michael Gamble, Fernando Melo, Lead Designer: Ian Frazier, Art Director: Joel MacMillan, Tech. Director: Harold Chaput; Lead Programmer: Julien Adriano…
Character Artists, Character Animators, Environment Artists, In Game Animators, Technical Animators, UI Artists, Visual Effect Artists Leads: Herbert Lowis, Tim Golem, Scotty Brown, Carl Boulay, Sylvain Côté, Éric Bellefeuille, Ryan Rosanky…
If anything, number of women involved in leading positions was really small...

Mafwek: Or more likely "pushes" with diversity because there is a market for it.

Mafwek: Perhaps both berk? Political correctness doesn't matter here, diversity is the factor.

You are an absolute moron if you think I am sprouting SJW narrative.

Gaming isn't limited to nerds/gamers anymore, so you are going to market it to anybody you can. Diversity? Nothing but good marketing to appeal to the wider audience. Power of "nationalism". Hardcore gamers aren't economically viable anymore (if Battlefield fans can be called hardcore gamers).

Mafwek: You said it better than I did. Although I wouldn't say high risk, big companies like to play it safe.

Mafwek: Because I am in very foul mood and tired, while you are either lying to me or you are ignorant. Well, you are definitively ignorant,

Mafwek: I never meant that everybody belongs to some identity all the time, and that they aim strictly for covering identity groups. I meant that identities play extremely big part in human psyche, and as such it's target for marketing.

Mafwek: Are you still going to tell me that identity doesn't matter, merely because it doesn't to you or me?

Mafwek: Why are you ignoring the fact that modern Star Wars earned A LOT of money and focus on the outrage? While it did have plenty of detractors in the West, I believe crucial factor is China.

Mafwek: Besides, I don't think that SJW culture of Disney SW movies is the problem, as much is the fact that they are pretty bad movies

Mafwek: Two words: Black Panther. Made a lot of money as well. Plus, superheroes were kinda promoting diversity before it was popular.

Mafwek: Or more likely "pushes" with diversity because there is a market for it.

Mafwek: If identity didn't play role, we wouldn't have culture wars, SJW-s and alt-right. Or you idiots merely fight because you are bored like me?

Lol Star Wars. That Fucking Abomination made 2.068 billion dollars; TLJ made 1.333 billion dollars, didn't pass well in China, but got positive reviews from all my friends unlike TFA, and it was liked by plenty of people who don't have time to waste on internet arguing about how movie sucks. Nerds...

Marvel movies made much more money than that, are you going to argue they aren't politically correct?