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Posted October 01, 2020
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[This is a sticky post, it will be visible in every single page of this thread. It has been published in October 2020.]

Our moderation team decided not to take a side in the discussion since this giveaway thread was created by the community and, as long as there are no forum rules violated, is up to you, dear Gogers, to decide its fate. We will not set giveaway rules, edit the OP's post, nor lock the whole thread.

However, to make it easier for newcomers to understand the situation (about the OP being inactive and other), I will stick my own post right above the first one.

You are, of course, free to create new threads to start anew and make your own, clear rules. At the same time, please stay reasonable when crating them, as multiple new duplicates might make it even more confusing for many Gogers.

That being said, here you can find a post with dxenija's community poll to have better understanding of the situation: CLICK.

At the time of writing, open giveaway threads are:
- Massive Giveaways Blog
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Be nice to each other *flies away*
Post edited January 29, 2021 by ponczo_
Posted February 02, 2017
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RWarehall: To download a game, you need a contract with the rights holder. So unless the rights holder has specifically released a game into public domain (or the copyright expires which usually is 75 years so will not apply to software for a long time), downloading a title from those sites is illegal.
Uhm, nope. Downloading is absolutely legal, puting such game on the website and making it available for download is illegal.
Posted February 02, 2017
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r-ichi-e: Downloading is absolutely legal, puting such game on the website and making it available for download is illegal.
Depends on local laws actually. Both parts.
Posted February 02, 2017
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RWarehall: To download a game, you need a contract with the rights holder. So unless the rights holder has specifically released a game into public domain (or the copyright expires which usually is 75 years so will not apply to software for a long time), downloading a title from those sites is illegal.
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r-ichi-e: Uhm, nope. Downloading is absolutely legal, puting such game on the website and making it available for download is illegal.
So you mean "hosting" is illegal? That's right, but i doubt that downloading is legal. It's a legal limbo at best in certain cases
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Posted February 02, 2017
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Just think about it.
While surfing on the net, you've found a webpage with some games. Or maybe a site with some funny movies you can watch. You're assured there they are free to download and play. You download it, you play it a little.
...one week later you're arrested. Why? Because actually website owner of the site didn't have rights (or have some problems with them) for the content he made available for download.

So no, it doesn't work like that. Downloading is not a crime, uploading and hosting is.
And if by chance there is law in some countries that says otherwise, then I'm sorry but this is Orwell's 1984 because it's making number of ways to brand innocent people as criminals limitless.
Posted February 02, 2017
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Ah, and to clarify one thing - I'm talking about simple downloading from the website.
Now, there are, ekhm, some programs and protocols which are simultanously uploading the files you're downloading. Be careful because in case of using such you might be breaking the law (as you're also uploading them).
Posted February 02, 2017
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r-ichi-e: Just think about it.
While surfing on the net, you've found a webpage with some games. Or maybe a site with some funny movies you can watch. You're assured there they are free to download and play. You download it, you play it a little.
...one week later you're arrested. Why? Because actually website owner of the site didn't have rights (or have some problems with them) for the content he made available for download.

So no, it doesn't work like that. Downloading is not a crime, uploading and hosting is.
And if by chance there is law in some countries that says otherwise, then I'm sorry but this is Orwell's 1984 because it's making number of ways to brand innocent people as criminals limitless.
Think about it. You are surfing the web. You come across a site assuring you it is legal to watch these movies for free. Doesn't matter that this movie was just released in the theatres yesterday...

YES, it's illegal to download videos and music and software without having to pay for it. The guy on the street sells you a TV for $20, says it was his. Tell the police how its okay because that guy said it was his...

You apparently do not understand the law and the basics of copyright law have been signed and agreed to by the vast majority of Westernized countries.

It is illegal to download. Truth. But yeah, what are the odds someone will enforce it. Still, it is wrong and illegal and claming it was just a download and some shady site said it was okay, will not protect you.

And no, downloading is not "legal limbo". Do you not remember the case of people being charged for downloading music illegally whether it was Napster or whatever? The same applies to software, it's called piracy and ignorance is no defense.

"Legal limbo" would be downloading a game where you own a scratched copy. Downloading a game you never paid for (which was not offered for free), is clearly illegal.
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Posted February 02, 2017
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RWarehall: Think about it. You are surfing the web. You come across a site assuring you it is legal to watch these movies for free. Doesn't matter that this movie was just released in the theatres yesterday...
Yes, it doesn't matter. I don't have to be walking encyclopedia and know what movie is being played in the theaters right now. Here or at the other end of the world.

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RWarehall: YES, it's illegal to download videos and music and software without having to pay for it. The guy on the street sells you a TV for $20, says it was his. Tell the police how its okay because that guy said it was his...
Your example is absolutely flawed, as:
1. nobody is selling TV on the streets
2. especially for 20$
On the other hand: watching movies, listening music, playing and downlading games from websites is perfectly normal, as it's normal to simply surfing the web. Just by opening any website your browser downloads hundreds of elements which could be copyrighted. Should I go to jail for that?

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RWarehall: You apparently do not understand the law and the basics of copyright law have been signed and agreed to by the vast majority of Westernized countries.
No, it's you who apparently do not understand differences between simple downloading and using peer-2-peer software (which also do upload)

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RWarehall: It is illegal to download.
Then, if I may ask, what are you doing on this site?
Because if, by any chance, any of the games provided by GOG happens to have some copyright issues, then you - according to your opinion - by downloading that game become criminal. Doesn't matter you didn't know a thing about it. If I were you I'd be very afraid about that. [sarcasm] Remember, it's called piracy and ignorance is no defense [/sarcasm]

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RWarehall: Do you not remember the case of people being charged for downloading music illegally whether it was Napster or whatever?
Yeah, exactly what I was saying. Napster was a peer-2-peer technology. By using it you're also automatically sharing and eventually uploading already downloaded files to other users. And that's why you could be charged.
Post edited February 02, 2017 by r-ichi-e
Posted February 02, 2017
Not trying to split hairs but infringement is not exclusive to uploading. Downloading (not p2p) material you don't own is still very much infringement (at least in the states), but typically unenforceable. However, If you do something else that warrants a legal investigation, your ISP could get subpoena'd for logs, you can then get nailed in civil court if the violations are discovered, even if you didn't share the media.

The chances of this happening, provided you're not involved in major crimes, is up there with spotting a unicorn though.
Posted February 02, 2017
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RWarehall: ...

YES, it's illegal to download videos and music and software without having to pay for it.
Unfortunately it's not true, I download quite a few movies, and Hollywood don't give a f@k, why it's already in public domain, music also have sites you can get whole CD's for free, I added over 40 books to my ebook library and didn't pay a cent, also most of the software I use OS included is free.

And here is a free mp3 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EuQLMXyGQOE
Posted February 03, 2017
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r-ichi-e: snip
You can make up any excuse you want, but the truth is that if you are caught downloading a game or are in possession of a game which you have no right to own, it is illegal.

I know what p2p is, it doesn't matter. Simply downloading illegal content straight to your computer is actionable.

Not my fault you seem to think you know something about this topic which you CLEARLY do not!

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RWarehall: ...

YES, it's illegal to download videos and music and software without having to pay for it.
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te_lanus: Unfortunately it's not true, I download quite a few movies, and Hollywood don't give a f@k, why it's already in public domain, music also have sites you can get whole CD's for free, I added over 40 books to my ebook library and didn't pay a cent, also most of the software I use OS included is free.

And here is a free mp3 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EuQLMXyGQOE
You clearly missed my posts earlier where I specifically spoke about copyright expiration or items offered by the rightful owners for free.
Post edited February 03, 2017 by RWarehall
Posted February 03, 2017
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Post edited February 03, 2017 by bela555
Posted February 03, 2017
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RWarehall: YES, it's illegal to download videos and music and software without having to pay for it. The guy on the street sells you a TV for $20, says it was his. Tell the police how its okay because that guy said it was his...
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r-ichi-e: Your example is absolutely flawed, as:
1. nobody is selling TV on the streets
How about binoculars with laser aim?
A guy asked me if I wanted to buy that in Tallinn harbour. In fact, the same guy asked me that twice, some eight months apart, so presumably he's like a character from some adventure game standing in one place all the time selling the same thing repeating the same phrase endelessly.

Anyways, you are wrong. Buying stolen goods can get you in legal trouble, whether or not you knew it was stolen. Same goes for downloading illegal files. Most likely you won't be facing any legal consequences, because there are bigger crimes to be solved all the time. And hunting down individual downloaders is really a waste of time, as shutting down the servers is more effective. Still in most countries downloading and installing and using a pirated software is illegal at some point (even if downloading itself is legal, then at least using it might be illegal).

But perhaps this can be continued in another thread somewhere, as all these posts don't have any information about legal free game keys and checking this thread to see someone's misplaced opinions about intellectual property rights is not why I (and presumably others) keep checking the new posts.
Posted February 03, 2017
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te_lanus: Unfortunately it's not true, I download quite a few movies, and Hollywood don't give a f@k..
Oh they do. I can assure you. Had to pay once because I thought the same (but don't want to go too much into details). My advice though: don't do it.
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RWarehall: You can make up any excuse you want, but the truth is that if you are caught downloading a game or are in possession of a game which you have no right to own, it is illegal.
Just to make this clear: it's even illegal if you aren't caught. (But I guess you already know this)
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PixelBoy: But perhaps this can be continued in another thread somewhere, as all these posts don't have any information about legal free game keys and checking this thread to see someone's misplaced opinions about intellectual property rights is not why I (and presumably others) keep checking the new posts.
Yes, I'd say you are right about this. So consider my post above to be the last from me on this topic which clearly is off topic. Sorry.
Post edited February 03, 2017 by MarkoH01
Posted February 03, 2017
Since this for some reason hasn't been posted yet, this code will get you a free copy of Constructor here on GOG for 'bout 48 hours, posted on the dev's Facebook page:
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Posted February 03, 2017
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RWarehall: You clearly missed my posts earlier where I specifically spoke about copyright expiration or items offered by the rightful owners for free.
And that's EXACTLY my point - you never really know the files you're downloading are being legally hosted or not. True, you can have your suspicions but in the end you're left to believe what site owner is saying. Because having something download for free is not something special nor uncommon, contrary to giving someone TV set on the street. See http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Good+Faith

Now, IF there are really laws and paragraphs which say otherwise - and IF there are real cases of convicted people based on such law (not only the cases of citizens threaten by perspective of being sued by big corporations with best lawyers available prefering to settle for agreement), then it's a very sad day for such country and citizens that must abide law that in this matter cannot be more distant to Western civilization principles, becoming closer to state of Joseph Stalin wet dream which one of his more famous phrases was "give me a man, and I'll find paragraph for him"

As it's been rightfully noticed this is really offtopic so it's my final message about this matter here.
Post edited February 03, 2017 by r-ichi-e
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