TS: Tastes differ I guess. I was sceptical at first too, but I had to use it (job requirement) and I actually came to love it.

Atrocious code: Word! And with C++ you can do real damage too ;-)
Also there is a language where all code is atrocious, just in varying degrees: PHP... I know it, because I've used it for more than 15 years professionally...

I used it for about 6 months at my previous job. It's not the end of the world by any means, but felt like too much boilerplate and effort for very little gain. Because of that I was very strongly against adopting it at my current company.

Ugh. I'm very sorry you had to deal with PHP. I looked into it once, and my beard has been gray ever since. Then again, my first server side tech was classic ASP, so... yeah.

Oh and C++ is a lot more messed up than most people know. Somehow it's got the reputation for being the perfect language, but not only can you do damage, the amount of WTFs rivals that of JS, except they are much better hidden.

Check this out:

int i = 5;
i = ++i + ++i;

What does i equal to?

Should be 13 by logic. Probably wrong ;-)

PS: Here's a JS one:

Array(16).join( 'hero'-1) + "Batman" = ?

Yes it should be. And yes it's wrong.

It could return 13. It could also return 14. Since the order of operations is not actually defined in the language's specification, the correct answer is "Undefined Behavior." Since the compiler is free to process the operations in any order that's convenient for it at any given moment, both of these (or any other) interpretations are equally and fully valid:

tmp=i; tmp++; i = tmp; tmp++; i += tmp;

tmp=i; tmp++; tmp++; i = tmp + tmp;

So yea. JS has its own share of WTFs, but this one trumps them all I think. =)
You shouldn't be able to do this. 'hero'-1 is gonna be a NaN.

Oh! Ahaha! Took me a moment.

That one always brings a smile to my face :-)

Lots of laughs.

Good! Let me try! ;)

Sent! =)

On this happy note I'm off to sleep. Will check the thread tomorrow in case anyone else wants a key. Cheers!

Would like a key to try the game, please. Very generous of you, much appreciated. :-)

2017 was the year of my clicker obsession, whereas 2018 is back to dungeon crawler obsession, but I'd still be interested in trying it out if you still have a few left.

thanks!

Sandwich?

That's not the only problem with C++.

One problem that can come up in both C and C++ is the following:

int *func(void)
{
int x = 3;
return &x;
}

(If you try to compile this code, you might get a compiler warning; there is a good reason for that.)

Can you see why that program is bad? (If you try to write the equivalent in save Rust, you will get an error to the effect of "x does not live long enough.)

Another problem would be the following (and I think this might affect JavaScript, but I am not sure):
int func(int x)
{
if (x = 0) {
puts("No, I will *not* divide by zero; you can't make me.");
abort();
} else {
return 60 / x;
}
}

If you want a language that can fill C and C++'s niche, but has fewer issues like these, I would recommend looking into Rust; it enforces memory safety but has an escape hatch ("unsafe") if you need it.

(By the way, the game being Steam only is a dealbreaker for me, as well as the game requiring a higher resolution than my monitor's 1280x1024.)

As well as cheap new laptops. There are still plenty with 1366 x 768 resolution.

Sent! =)
Sent! =)
Sent! =)

JS has has both positive and negative Infinity, so division by zero is allowed. Take a look at the screenshot.