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monkeydelarge: Yeah but those free games haven't received GOG's magical touch. :)
And the Bethesda version expects you to set up DOSBox yourself and than download the game, which is bullshit.

GOG version completely negates that now you can just download, install, and play the game.
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monkeydelarge: Yeah but those free games haven't received GOG's magical touch. :)
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Elmofongo: And the Bethesda version expects you to set up DOSBox yourself and than download the game, which is bullshit.

GOG version completely negates that now you can just download, install, and play the game.
It is better than nothing though.
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monkeydelarge: Yeah but those free games haven't received GOG's magical touch. :)
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Elmofongo: And the Bethesda version expects you to set up DOSBox yourself and than download the game, which is bullshit.

GOG version completely negates that now you can just download, install, and play the game.
Yeah, screw setting up DOSBox, yourself. I've done this in the past and it is a huge pain in the ass especially if you are one of those gamers who uninstalls games and then decides to play them later again. Better to just get the GOG versions.
Post edited August 31, 2015 by monkeydelarge
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darthspudius: Yes everyone knows that already.
To be fair, this is the first time I am learning about this. I just thought the 2 games Gog was giving away with the bundle purchase was a promotion.
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darthspudius: Yes everyone knows that already.
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chadjenofsky: To be fair, this is the first time I am learning about this. I just thought the 2 games Gog was giving away with the bundle purchase was a promotion.
It was a big announcement a while ago. I was just being funny. :P
Setting up DOSBox isn't that hard, not everyone is tech savvy I understand that, so the whole process depends more on one's experience. The first thing I do when I buy a dos game on GOG is to move it to my all-round dosbox config, write up a few batch files and all done in about 10mins.
Just to be sure, the versions here on gog don't need this DOSBox thing?
I'm asking because I don't even have the slightest idea what that is and why you need them to play the games.
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Elmofongo: And the Bethesda version expects you to set up DOSBox yourself and than download the game, which is bullshit.

GOG version completely negates that now you can just download, install, and play the game.
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monkeydelarge: Yeah, screw setting up DOSBox, yourself. I've done this in the past and it is a huge pain in the ass especially if you are one of those gamers who uninstalls games and then decides to play them later again. Better to just get the GOG versions.
I agree with you on this. Having the GOG versions means you have a nicely configured DOSBox version that will run on your system. You could download the freebies and tweak it yourself or you could get them along with Morrowind fully configured.
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JinKazaragi: Just to be sure, the versions here on gog don't need this DOSBox thing?
I'm asking because I don't even have the slightest idea what that is and why you need them to play the games.
They need the DOSBox thing, but it's installed along with the game and configured to ensure it runs on most (if not all) systems out there.
Post edited August 31, 2015 by JDelekto
There is a Daggerfall version with mods and fixes on the uespwiki
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bigpap: They say the already available for free requires a workaround to get it working?
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but perhaps there are some downloads where you just get the basic game, and if that's so, then yes, you'd have to manually set up DOSBox to get it working. But I've downloaded them before from the free site and they had the DOXBox already built in (like gog does) so that all I had to do was install it, click the icon, and play.

This is the first time I've messed with the CD version of Arena though (which is what you get from gog) and I'm having a horrible time with it. It runs fine, no crashes or anything, but the framerate is so choppy it's making me sick.

So I guess those are two possible workarounds that might be needed, but technically the free ones from Bethesda site that included DOSBox don't really require workarounds.
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JinKazaragi: Just to be sure, the versions here on gog don't need this DOSBox thing?
I'm asking because I don't even have the slightest idea what that is and why you need them to play the games.
Basically, most old games (from the 'DOS era') won't run properly on modern systems.
DOSBox is a DOS emulator that you can use to run said old games.

Supposedly, the copies of the games direct from Bethesda's site do not have DOSBox preinstalled/configured (although OldFatGuy says otherwise. I don't know I've never tried them), so to get them running properly, you'd need to install DOSBox yourself and set it up.

On GOG, however, you do not need to worry about this! The games still use DOSBox, as do many games that GOG sells, but it gets automatically installed and configured when you go through the normal game install. So all you have to do is install, run and play!

Hopefully that answers any questions you may have had buddy! :)
Post edited August 31, 2015 by Kerchatin
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OldFatGuy: I'm not sure what you're talking about, but perhaps there are some downloads where you just get the basic game, and if that's so, then yes, you'd have to manually set up DOSBox to get it working. But I've downloaded them before from the free site and they had the DOXBox already built in (like gog does) so that all I had to do was install it, click the icon, and play.

This is the first time I've messed with the CD version of Arena though (which is what you get from gog) and I'm having a horrible time with it. It runs fine, no crashes or anything, but the framerate is so choppy it's making me sick.

So I guess those are two possible workarounds that might be needed, but technically the free ones from Bethesda site that included DOSBox don't really require workarounds.
From Bethsoft direct, there is no DOSBox. You have to get it separately. From UESP you get a preconfigured installer. Also for free and allowed by Beth if not explicitly endorsed.
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JinKazaragi: Just to be sure, the versions here on gog don't need this DOSBox thing?
I'm asking because I don't even have the slightest idea what that is and why you need them to play the games.
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Kerchatin: Basically, most old games (from the 'DOS era') won't run properly on modern systems.
DOSBox is a DOS emulator that you can use to run said old games.

Supposedly, the copies of the games direct from Bethesda's site do not have DOSBox preinstalled/configured (although OldFatGuy says otherwise. I don't know I've never tried them), so to get them running properly, you'd need to install DOSBox yourself and set it up.

On GOG, however, you do not need to worry about this! The games still use DOSBox, as do many games that GOG sells, but it gets automatically installed and configured when you go through the normal game install. So all you have to do is install, run and play!

Hopefully that answers any questions you may have had buddy! :)
That's exactly what I wanted to know, thanks.
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Kerchatin: Supposedly, the copies of the games direct from Bethesda's site do not have DOSBox preinstalled/configured (although OldFatGuy says otherwise. I don't know I've never tried them), so to get them running properly, you'd need to install DOSBox yourself and set it up.
Yeah, you're right, I got my brain mixed up again. The site I always downloaded from before was the UESPWiki, not Bethesda. Sorry to all.

But yes, these have been available there for quite some time (years, not months) but again, as JMitch pointed out, the free ones from UESPWiki do have a different Arena version, as it is the floppy version whereas the gog version is the CD version which some voice acting in some of the cut scenes.

FTR, [url=http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Files]here is the link[/url] to the free Arena that includes DOSBox and [url=http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files]here is the link[/url] to the free Daggerfall. (NOTE: You may have to scroll down near the bottom to find the downloads)

Also, there is a link [url=http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:CompUSA_Special_Edition]here[/url] for the CompUSA patch of Daggerfall that adds content. (Because you know, there wasn't enough content in Daggerfall..... lol)
Post edited August 31, 2015 by OldFatGuy
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chadjenofsky: To be fair, this is the first time I am learning about this. I just thought the 2 games Gog was giving away with the bundle purchase was a promotion.
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darthspudius: It was a big announcement a while ago. I was just being funny. :P
Sorry, D.S., I sometimes live under a very large rock ;-)