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Police? Nah, more like the frame rate neighborhood watch.
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YaTEdiGo: [SNIP]
Wow, I don't think English is your first language. I am really struggling to understand what you're saying here, but it sounds like you're making a lot of assumptions here. I only use Steam to talk to friends because as service I think it's utter shit. Also most of the people on this thread seem to be agreeing with me anyway. I think I'll start a new thread for this issue since I think it will be better then a gogmix.
Post edited December 13, 2016 by Magmarock
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Magmarock: I think I'll start a new thread for this issue since I think it will be better then a gogmix.
Why not both? If you want to share the info with other customers, why exclude those who don't visit the forum, but are still browsing the store?
Post edited December 13, 2016 by Grargar
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Magmarock: I think I'll start a new thread for this issue since I think it will be better then a gogmix.
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Grargar: Why not both? If you want to share the info with other customers, why exclude those who don't visit the forum, but are still browsing the store?
Because I'm lazy XD. A forum seems easier to manage.
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YaTEdiGo: [SNIP]
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Magmarock: Wow, I don't think English is your first language. I am really struggling to understand what you're saying here, but it sounds like you're making a lot of assumptions here. I only use Steam to talk to friends because as service I think it's utter shit. Also most of the people on this thread seem to be agreeing with me anyway. I think I'll start a new thread for this issue since I think it will be better then a gogmix.
LOL the ¨Oh you write badly¨ excuse, sure man, seems that you are exactly what many people in the post suggested you are.
Post edited December 13, 2016 by YaTEdiGo
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Magmarock: Wow, I don't think English is your first language. I am really struggling to understand what you're saying here, but it sounds like you're making a lot of assumptions here. I only use Steam to talk to friends because as service I think it's utter shit. Also most of the people on this thread seem to be agreeing with me anyway. I think I'll start a new thread for this issue since I think it will be better then a gogmix.
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YaTEdiGo: LOL the ¨Oh you write badly¨ excuse, sure man, seems that you are exactly what many people in the post suggested you are.
Mate, I not dissing on your writing, I couldn't understand what the hell it was you were saying.
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YaTEdiGo: LOL the ¨Oh you write badly¨ excuse, sure man, seems that you are exactly what many people in the post suggested you are.
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Magmarock: Mate, I not dissing on your writing, I couldn't understand what the hell it was you were saying.
I will write to you again, simple and in easy English.

A) someone affirms cannot play at less than 60fps, not even at 59fps.
B) same person affirms he is having pleasure in playing MARIO64 at 60 fps.
C) experts demonstrate to him, he is actually not playing at 60fps.
D) he found his mistake, and agree.

- whatever you said about someone finally run the game at 60FPS is totally IRRELEVANT with the point explained.

E) I bet 100% of the people of this thread got the point.
F) I got proof of all said before. Just if my English isn´t enough for you.

2nd point

A) Action and 3D games are better at 60fps
B) Even action and 3D games aren´t unplayable at 30FPS
C) People that like games more than technical issues know perfectly that games are playable at 30fps, and more than enjoyable.
D) Mario64 when it was released was a jewel. Add hundreds of games to the list, if not thousands.
E) Get mature, games are great as long as they have all their features equilibrated as a whole.

3rd Point,

Your words about sickness, death, diseases, etc. make you a very funny person. So yeah, you are one of those Zealots, easy to see since from the very beginning I said, welcome, to your list, but I just said based in my absolutely acknowledge opinion about this issue, as a competitive player, game industry professional, multi platform gamer, with more than 30 years of gaming behind me, that less than 60FPS are more than ok, but 60fps are better.

4th MAKE THAT LIST, nobody said you shouldn´t make it
Post edited December 13, 2016 by YaTEdiGo
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Grargar: Why not both? If you want to share the info with other customers, why exclude those who don't visit the forum, but are still browsing the store?
Indeed! You could create a thread, let a discussion flow then when you feel like it, you could create the GOGmix.

I've been thinking about doing something similar though I would prefer to cover a greater scope; rather than focusing on framerates( you leave that detail for each game in the description) instead calling it "Not entirely smooth games" or something similar. Even though in general I prefer 60FPS+, I don't mind playing old games that run let's say 10FPS like Heroes 3 or perhaps 30FPS as long as it feels like the engine is solid enough. That way people can much easier make their own judgement and not get hung up on some silly framerate war.
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YaTEdiGo: A) someone affirms cannot play at less than 60fps, not even at 59fps.
B) same person affirms he is having pleasure in playing MARIO64 at 60 fps.
C) experts demonstrate to him, he is actually not playing at 60fps.
D) he found his mistake, and agree.

- whatever you said about someone finally run the game at 60FPS is totally IRRELEVANT with the point explained.
No, points A through D are irrelevant. Just because you know someone who can't see the difference means nothing to the people who can. Including those who managed to hack the game past it's 30 fps cap of which you said was impossible.
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YaTEdiGo: A) Action and 3D games are better at 60fps
B) Even action and 3D games aren´t unplayable at 30FPS
C) People that like games more than technical issues know perfectly that games are playable at 30fps, and more than enjoyable.
D) Mario64 when it was released was a jewel. Add hundreds of games to the list, if not thousands.
E) Get mature, games are great as long as they have all their features equilibrated.
A, yes
B, sometimes
C, this is an oxymoron, games and technology are symbiotic.
D, key word is when, I don't think it's aged well.
E, that including framerate right?
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YaTEdiGo: Your words about sickness, death, diseases, etc. make you a very funny person. So yeah, you are one of those Zealots, easy to see since from the very beginning I said, welcome, to your list, but I said my absolutely acknowledge opinion about this issue, as a competitive player, industry professional, multi platform gamer, with more than 30 years of gaming behind me.
I don't think you understand. The critics of the framerate police are the ones wishing death and disease thus being the most vile; while advocates at worst are being nit picky, and you have inadvertently agreed with this. In your previous posts the worst thing you cited was that people complained about technical things, thus straightening my point.

You yourself have also resorted to using ad hominems against me. Case and point calling me a Zealot, because I don't agree with you. While also demonstrating a muddled understanding of I'm trying to do.
Post edited December 13, 2016 by Magmarock
Personally I always thought that framerate information should appear in the game description page.

I think it's a useful information to have along with the game genre, features, size, controller support, etc... there should be a en entry listing whenever the game max frame rate is capped at 30, 60, uncapped, or NA in case "FPS" measurement doesn't really make sense (i.e. for older adventure games).

And yes for TPS and FPS it can be important and can greatly impair/improve the enjoyment of the game, so for me it would me normal to give this information to potential buyer so that they can make an informed buying buying decision.
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Gersen: Personally I always thought that framerate information should appear in the game description page.

I think it's a useful information to have along with the game genre, features, size, controller support, etc... there should be a en entry listing whenever the game max frame rate is capped at 30, 60, uncapped, or NA in case "FPS" measurement doesn't really make sense (i.e. for older adventure games).

And yes for TPS and FPS it can be important and can greatly impair/improve the enjoyment of the game, so for me it would me normal to give this information to potential buyer so that they can make an informed buying buying decision.
That's a brilliant idea, I'm gonna make a wish for that.

And done https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/add_framerate_info_to_game_description
Post edited December 13, 2016 by Magmarock
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Magmarock: D, key word is when, I don't think it's aged well.
Try the DS remake, it looks way better.
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Magmarock: D, key word is when, I don't think it's aged well.
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omega64: Try the DS remake, it looks way better.
The DS remake of super Mario 64 was rather improved too.
Post edited December 13, 2016 by Magmarock
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SirPrimalform: No, but my point was that 24fps is clearly fast enough for persistence of vision and traditionally animated films have no motion blur either. I also don't see how interactivity figures into it, our vision isn't good enough to make use of the extra reaction time that might be afforded by a higher frame rate (hence persistence of vision).
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Magmarock: You sir are simply wrong. Factually wrong and incorrect. It has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that people can tell the diffrence between 60 to 100 and even up to over 160hz; let alone 30 to 60.
And yet films are still commonly made at 24fps, crazy right? By the way, there's a difference between refresh rate and frame rate.
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SirPrimalform: our vision isn't good enough to make use of the extra reaction time that might be afforded by a higher frame rate (hence persistence of vision).
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Paradoks: Many would disagree, particularly pro-gamers. There is a reason why all fighting games run at 60 fps.
And just because something is considered sufficient doesn't mean it shouldn't be better. In many cases monochrome image is sufficient, yet I don't remember many black and white movies recently.
Right, but there's a difference between "can be better" and "unacceptable". Yes 60fps is better than 30fps, but no there is nothing wrong with 30fps.
Post edited December 13, 2016 by SirPrimalform
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SirPrimalform: And yet films are still commonly made at 24fps, crazy right? By the way, there's a difference between refresh rate and frame rate.
Why the hell are we talking about films this is a games focused thread.

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SirPrimalform: Right, but there's a difference between "can be better" and "unacceptable". Yes 60fps is better than 30fps, but no there is nothing wrong with 30fps.
Yes there is. It is absolutely unacceptable in this day and age for a game to be released with a locked framerate. I ask of you to present one good reason why this is. Things like physics and coding don't count because that's just plain bad coding. There's no advantage what so ever to using a forced 30fps cap and no studio should do it. EVER!