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I wanted to let you know that, effective today, we’ve removed the report system from our forum. It’s something that was formerly designed to enhance your forum experience, but we’ve learnt the hard way that it ultimately did the opposite to some of you, which was never our intention. While we cannot commit to bigger forum optimizations for the time being, we’ve decided to take this step in order to improve your overall experience.

Another frequently brought up topic is the post review system – we are also considering removing this feature for the time being, but would like to listen to your opinions on the matter before we commit to this measure.
Post edited October 06, 2022 by chandra
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hey everyone. I've read your opinions on the downvote/upvote system we had and I liked your suggestions to leave the option to upvote and remove the downvote option that unfortunately helps in spreading negativity and can be under bot attacks.

That's why, as you may have noticed, starting well, a couple of minutes ago, we've removed the option to downvote posts.
Post edited September 16, 2022 by ponczo_
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Krogan32: Thank <insert deity of choice>! Now a lot of us won't be punished simply because of downvote bots.
Can you post links?
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Why did GOG not remove the "rep system"?

It's constantly being abused by stalkers who target individual GOG users, and then use bots automatically to "downvote" any & every post that the targeted individuals ever make, 100% regardless of what the post actually says.

That downvoting system is at least as toxic, and probably much more so, than the system that the OP of this thread is about. So it makes no sense for GOG to leave that toxic system intact.

And I have no idea what the "post review system" is referring to, but if it's referring to downvoting posts, then yes, it 100% needs to be removed. And if it's not referring to downvoting posts, then downvoting posts still needs to be removed immediately anyway.
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chandra: I wanted to let you know that, effective today, we’ve removed the report system from our forum. It’s something that was formerly designed to enhance your forum experience, but we’ve learnt the hard way that it ultimately did the opposite to some of you, which was never our intention. While we cannot commit to bigger forum optimizations for the time being, we’ve decided to take this step in order to improve your overall experience.

Another frequently brought up topic is the post review system – we are also considering removing this feature for the time being, but would like to listen to your opinions on the matter before we commit to this measure.
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Krogan32: Thank <insert deity of choice>! Now a lot of us won't be punished simply because of downvote bots.
In your case, I suspect the downvotes were legit. It’s also somewhat ironic that you bring this up, seeing as you have previously mocked other users on this forum for pointing out that their posts were automatically downvoted.
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Krogan32: Thank <insert deity of choice>! Now a lot of us won't be punished simply because of downvote bots.
You sure about that? As far as I can tell, the downvoting abuse and rep system is still there, although they seemed to have made the "rep counter" invisible at the moment.

But all the abusive effects of the rep system still seem to be in place, like targeted individuals still having all their of posts automatically be "low rated," and I bet the targeted individuals also won't be able to post links once they've been abused by stalking downvotes for long enough, and I bet their posts also still become censored to certain readers after they've been "low rated," etc. etc.

So, contrary to what you are implying, GOG making the rep counter invisible isn't actually doing jack all to stop the downvoting abuse by stalkers.

GOG needs fully to erase the entire system, and all aspects of it, like the ones I just mentioned, as opposed to GOG merely taking a useless action of making the rep counter invisible, whilst still leaving all of its toxic effects 100% intact (which seems to be what is currently happening).
Post edited July 05, 2022 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Probably for the best.

Now, the removal of the low rated/high rated will be a nice final blow to the downvote bot farms. Or even better, remove only the minus/low rated and keep the high rated only.

Or, as an experiment, swap the positions/IDs of the +/- buttons and see how long the bots will be confused before the owner updates it and then remove it :P. Wasted effort is the best detriment.
Post edited July 05, 2022 by idbeholdME
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Krogan32: Thank <insert deity of choice>! Now a lot of us won't be punished simply because of downvote bots.
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Longcat: In your case, I suspect the downvotes were legit. It’s also somewhat ironic that you bring this up, seeing as you have previously mocked other users on this forum for pointing out that their posts were automatically downvoted.
Mods, this is the reason I constantly question your lack of moderation on these forums. I am being personally attacked here despite making a factual statement about downvoting bots. Any other forums, Longcat would've been facing at least a week ban for this offense. However, I know he won't, because you don't enforce your own forum rules!
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I think, reputation system could have been useful, if:

1. It was not anonymous
2. We could enter meaningful reason, why we upvote or downvote particular post, topic, or user account itself
3. There were limits, how often one user can affect another person's reputation
4. Measures were taken to prevent bots from automatically casting votes

But if GOG web-developers do not have enough resources to significantly improve the system, it better be turned off.
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Krogan32: Thank <insert deity of choice>! Now a lot of us won't be punished simply because of downvote bots.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: You sure about that? As far as I can tell, the downvoting abuse and rep system is still there, although they seemed to have made the "rep counter" invisible at the moment.

But all the abusive effects of the rep system still seem to be in place, like targeted individuals still having all their of posts automatically be "low rated," and I bet the targeted individuals also won't be able to post links once they've been abused by stalking downvotes for long enough, and I bet their posts also still become censored to certain readers after they've been "low rated," etc. etc.

So, contrary to what you are implying, GOG making the rep counter invisible isn't actually doing jack all to stop the downvoting abuse by stalkers.

GOG needs fully to erase the entire system, and all aspects of it, like the ones I just mentioned, as opposed to GOG merely taking a useless action of making the rep counter invisible, whilst still leaving all of its toxic effects 100% intact (which seems to be what is currently happening).
I'm getting attacked here as well mods. Anyways, why are you still here, ARD when you constantly attack GoG with every single one of your posts? Oh riiiiight.

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idbeholdME: Probably for the best.

Now, the removal of the low rated/high rated will be a nice final blow to the downvote bot farms. Or even better, remove only the minus/low rated and keep the high rated only.

Or, as an experiment, swap the positions/IDs of the +/- buttons and see how long the bots will be confused before the owner updates it and then remove it :P. Wasted effort is the best detriment.
To Paladin181, those downvote bots don't exist.
Post edited July 05, 2022 by Krogan32
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Krogan32: Any other forums, Longcat would've been facing at least a week ban for this offense.
This isn't Resetera.
Grow a backbone.
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Krogan32: Thank <insert deity of choice>! Now a lot of us won't be punished simply because of downvote bots.
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paladin181: Can you post links?
Don't know about Krogan32, but evidently I can.

(The URL I posted is a good one for testing. The link is 100% safe, and will remain so given that internet standards require that the example.com domain be reserved for example usage (like in documentation), even if it's not the most interesting site out there.)
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Longcat: In your case, I suspect the downvotes were legit. It’s also somewhat ironic that you bring this up, seeing as you have previously mocked other users on this forum for pointing out that their posts were automatically downvoted.
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Krogan32: Mods, this is the reason I constantly question your lack of moderation on these forums. I am being personally attacked here despite making a factual statement about downvoting bots. Any other forums, Longcat would've been facing at least a week ban for this offense. However, I know he won't, because you don't enforce your own forum rules!
How are you being ‘personally attacked’ by pointing out that you have mocked other users (including me) on this forum for the very thing you are now complaining about?
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NuffCatnip: Could you elaborate on this a bit?
They finally got around to commenting 1 line of code out. Maybe 2.

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Darvond: 4) Implement HTML WYSIWYG instead of this terrible BBcode nonsense.
Html injection of code was a major cause of security issues and probably one reason MySpace fell.

BBCode allows very controlled measures of converting to html within parameters. Otherwise you have to pretty much do a forced conversion of <> to &lt;&gt; anyways.
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RoboPond: 5) Give us access to PNG avatars. It sucks not having support for transparency.
also allow gif's. This will allow transparency as well as animations. Though type size and whatnot would need some suggestions. Probably under 100k would be the standard.

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Darvond: 7) Overhaul how user replies are retrieved as to prevent the purple dot of doom and never being able to check recent posts.
Agreed. Either as a multiple week option of how far to look back, or also giving the option to nuke those notifications so you aren't bothered with the purple dot of doom.

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AlexTerranova: I think, reputation system could have been useful, if:

1. It was not anonymous
But then the same 50 id's on every single downvoted post would have easily identified bots and been dealt with in some fashion... or having user scripts that reverted the downvotes for known/identified bots.

Though having a weight on vote's value/effect based on how much money you've paid (to a max value to equal 1, of say oh $100) would have removed bots effectiveness unless there was say a million of them.
Post edited July 05, 2022 by rtcvb32
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idbeholdME: Probably for the best.

Now, the removal of the low rated/high rated will be a nice final blow to the downvote bot farms. Or even better, remove only the minus/low rated and keep the high rated only.

Or, as an experiment, swap the positions/IDs of the +/- buttons and see how long the bots will be confused before the owner updates it and then remove it :P. Wasted effort is the best detriment.
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Krogan32: To Paladin181, those downvote bots don't exist.
Wait, what? I've always been against the bots. I don't even understand how you got to my name in that post! I only wanted to know if your were now eligible to post links since you were the one user in this thread to that point that I knew had a negative number rep.

EDIT: And dtgreene answered for me, at least in her own experience
Post edited July 05, 2022 by paladin181
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Thread successfully derailed. Well done chaps!
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chandra: Another frequently brought up topic is the post review system – we are also considering removing this feature for the time being, but would like to listen to your opinions on the matter before we commit to this measure.
It hasn't actually changed very much. The low rated post,low rep tools are still there.
All it's done is hide rep which makes gogdogs jobs a little easier because they wouldn't have people making GDPR requests to remove the false information on their profiles AKA editing the rep count to what it would be without the bots.

edit - It seems the low rated isn't here now unless the person running the low rated bot has noticed the new changes. or been told to stop it.

edit 2 - Either there's some jokers here or I spoke too soon with my first edit lol.

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Darvond: Well, you're now one step closer to being the best forum I've seen in literal ages.

Now all you have left to do is:
1) Strip all this worthless javascript out.
2) Turn off any social media trackers.
.............
If you let people post images then they're as good as trackers.
Post edited July 05, 2022 by §pec†re