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Posted April 29, 2020
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GameRager: GOG regulations need an overhaul(some removed or edited, or added to in some cases), and the mod staff needs to be more lenient and not so by the book with said regulations(it is actually killing discussion on the forums).
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MarkoH01: Tbh I don't get the problem here. There are rules we should follow them - should not be difficult to do so.
What if it is someone other than the customers who are straying from the rules?
The forum policy is also on zens help site instead of gog forums. How can people know what they are if they are hidden away.


If a discussion is partly against the rules maybe this discussion should be handled with different words.
As responsible and decent people we all should be able to discuss things without swearing, insulting or derail things too much.
People are happily doing that already which means this is about the finer points of forum discussions.
Derailing conversations, rightly or wrongly isn't prevented. Neither is the abuse of the rep system which is easily exploitable.


It would be great if you could give some examples (simply post a link of discussions which in your opinion have been disturbed by trying to keep them by the rules) so that I would understand this problem you have a bit better.
If you don't know what the problem is then it is better not to mistakenly claim it is about extreme toxicity.


Also, imo CMs are doing their work here because they want to help making this forum a better place by preventing extreme toxicity.
We can't say why these regulations are they way they are.


They are still part of the community but since they are doing their work in the name of GOG and for GOG I would never expect them to be more lenient than the people they are doing the work for.
I suspect what they mean is quality of work.


This is not our forum, it's GOG's forum which we simply are allowed to use by playing by the rules they made.
A business can do whatever they want?


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morolf: I can understand that Gog doesn't want the forum to return to the state it was a few years ago (with edgy alt-righters and SJWs making it their battleground) and agree that politics should be mostly kept out of here, but the way they're trying to achieve this comes across like they're regarding users as a nuisance anyway.
I don't think it was either and instead it was crooks in the business trying to cover up their bad behaviour with third party trolls stirring up trouble in between so people couldn't have a conversation on it.
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Posted April 29, 2020
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Spectre: I don't think it was either and instead it was crooks in the business trying to cover up their bad behaviour with third party trolls stirring up trouble in between so people couldn't have a conversation on it.
Seems a bit far-fetched to me tbh.
My recollection is that a few years ago, around the time of the 2016 American election, the Gog forum was really terrible, with various political extremists continually shouting at each other. I'm honestly glad that many of those users are gone and don't think a return to that state would be a good thing, so on some level it might even be understandable that current moderation errs on the side of caution. I still think it's often too heavy-handed though.
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Posted April 29, 2020
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MarkoH01: Tbh I don't get the problem here. There are rules we should follow them - should not be difficult to do so.
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Spectre: What if it is someone other than the customers who are straying from the rules?
It does not change a thing. In every forum you have forum rules and everybody who ever used a forum should be aware of this. So if I enter a forum I will first read the rules that's the usual way.

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Spectre: The forum policy is also on zens help site instead of gog forums. How can people know what they are if they are hidden away.
Last I looked they were inside the forum as a sticky.

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Spectre: People are happily doing that already which means this is about the finer points of forum discussions.
Derailing conversations, rightly or wrongly isn't prevented. Neither is the abuse of the rep system which is easily exploitable.
That's what I am just about to see for myself by the examples people gave me. So far it seems as if "politics" in the discussions is the big issue but I am not sure yet if that really is the only problem. I need a bit more time to read through those threads.

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Spectre: If you don't know what the problem is then it is better not to mistakenly claim it is about extreme toxicity.
Did I do that? I just said that I think (meaning that's my guess/opinion) that the CMs are there to prevent toxicity.


Also, imo CMs are doing their work here because they want to help making this forum a better place by preventing extreme toxicity.
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Spectre: We can't say why these regulations are they way they are.
No, we can't. That's why I said imo - meaning "in MY opinion". It's an educated guess nothing more.


This is not our forum, it's GOG's forum which we simply are allowed to use by playing by the rules they made.
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Spectre: A business can do whatever they want?
I also never said that. The actual question is "can a business really do whatever they want with and in their own forum" and the answer - even though it's probably a thing you don't like to hear - is "yes, they can". The other question however that should be asked is "SHOULD a business really do whatever they want with and in their own forum?" - the answer to this is much more debatable given the fact that most people using the forums are paying customers.
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Posted May 03, 2020
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Spectre: What if it is someone other than the customers who are straying from the rules?
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MarkoH01: It does not change a thing.
If the real rules are different then it changes everything.

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MarkoH01: Last I looked they were inside the forum as a sticky.
You haven't looked properly. The sticky has a short paragraph which amounts to, "don't be a dick" with a link to the forum policy on the support website.


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MarkoH01: No, we can't. That's why I said imo - meaning "in MY opinion". It's an educated guess nothing more.
It is hard to tell what part of it was an opinion given how and what was said.

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Spectre: A business can do whatever they want?
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MarkoH01: I also never said that. The actual question is "can a business really do whatever they want with and in their own forum" and the answer - even though it's probably a thing you don't like to hear - is "yes, they can".
In general that isn't the case. There's number of EU directives that say otherwise.
The problem is that internet companies want to be businesses when it benefits them but pretend they are not when it doesn't. This has let some companies grow large and ingrained these abuses.
For example Steam hiding game discs in shops that didn't work unless you had an account in order to download the game.
Another are third parties encouraging websites to spy on their users for profit.

Business can also be told what to do from somewhere else against their interests e.g asset stripping shareholders.
Posted May 07, 2020
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First off, with this I am NOT questioning mod actions...that said:
Why was this question thread asking about the new galaxy's stability locked?
Was it rule breaking in some way, or did the OP request it???

(The above thread just asks if the new version of galaxy is stable, it was answered, and one other post was made...then it got locked with no reason given as to why[if the OP asked for it it's hard to tell without a blue posting a reason at the end of it])
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