Well, IF I am violating rule #12, which in this case, I hadn't yet.

As I mentioned before, deviant behaviour that doesn't appear to provide any (non-evil) benefit I'd consider suspect. So far practised by drealmer7 and trentonlf (at least in my perception).

Any other questions you wish answered from me, so as to not be appearing to selectively answer questions?

Uhhh, what? What does it matter how many votes he has? Why is 1 significant?

You should be voting for who you think is most likely to be scum. On top of that making an argument for/against your vote/other people's votes is another useful thing to do. What you did is not helpful at all.

So, to be clearer, when I asked everyone to vote. I mean FOR THE PLAYER YOU FIND SCUMMIEST. Only then can we see where things really stand.

And if I find 2 people scummy, and one has no votes and one has one vote already, should I not vote for the person who already has one vote?

I saw you peeking last night when I was dancing around naked!

Wait, maybe that is why she is gone...
I did already Hmmm, are you possibly just scum-skimming my posts?!

Also, remember, the game isn't necessarily "well-balanced" to begin with.

Yes, but your reason for voting them should be "because I find them the most scummy" not "because they already have 1 vote", I suppose I could have misunderstood you in the first place, but that's why it's good to communicate and work everything out. So, me and trent, and trent has a vote. Okay, I can buy that, I'm tempted to vote him too, obviously.

I think zeogold has, actually. Plus, I get lynched all of the time for posting too much (not for "posting too much", but simply for posting too much. Ya, follow? heh.)

And, I can read. NOW it is ~23hrs from deadline.

I'd like to hear more from:

flub, hijack, cspvg, cristi, and of course a4plz (more from babark would be good too)

also, HSL, with all the scum-hunting you've been doing, are you not comfortable placing a vote yet?

Unvote trentwolf
Vote hijack



Not sure I'll be able to be on tomorrow.

We need more info. I've been sufficiently convinced that Trent is going nuts and -- not to discredit his scum play at other times - don't think he could pull this off as scum.

I might be special. But you're prettiest atm. Care to claim? That'd be like, almost an achievement to get an L-1 and a claim with 20 or so odd hours left until deadline. We might actually progress somewhat. So, yerrp, if you'd do the honors HijacK?

I cleared my head and came back to the table to try and see it all freshly and biggest picture I could and this is what I see/think (not that I was specifically looking to come up with anything, I just wanted to see if anything presented itself, and it did) :

I still think the best course of action for figuring things out is to look at my wagon. Yes, HijacK is at L-1, and yes his claim may or may not be motivating enough for someone (who knows, possibly even me, though I doubt it) to hammer him, but that doesn't mean all other discourse should cease (far from it, IMO, it is the crucial time to make sure we're doing everything we can to make the right decision, and with it only being 6/13 currently, that is by no means the point to stop discussion.)

Looking at it again, I still think there are probably 2 on my wagon. To me that is what seems MOST LIKELY. So, if I go from that, I must try and figure out which 2 are the most likely. My vote is on babark and he was on my D1 wagon, and I think he could very well be lurking Evil advised by a scum-buddy to follow their lead, lay low, and just do their best. He's certainly done nothing to make me think otherwise (except maybe try to get on my good side by voting trent with me? making me remove my eyes from the fact that he'd been on m wagon? WTF knows, really, but, it's the theory I'm going with currently, it seems best.) If babark is the2nd I think that makes it more likely that trent is town, and so that leaves flub, cristi, and dess. I wouldn't be surprised if either cristi or adalia were scum at this point either, but nothing damning enough for either of them at this point to vote them for D2.

So, yep, babark is where I am most comfortable with my vote for D2 and think it is a viable wagon even at this point in the day.

EBWOP

I meant to also note that the HijacK wagon is very similar to my wagon, with adalia, cristi, and trent all having been on both (of course adalia was dess at the time.) Interesting, and worth noting, imo.

@drealmer

Good note on the same people on both wagons. ...

So would you switch your vote if there is only an hour left and Hijack is the only one L-1 or L-2?

Had a chance to read a little during lunch and almost caught up.

It doesn't make me look good, but I'm just going to Vote HijacK because I probably won't have time to deep-read the last few pages before the day ends.

Must have missed your question. Yes, it's an outside possibility. I already said I'm convinced that bookwyrm is town. I'm perfectly happy with a 99% assurance. I don't know what information scum started with so I'm not going to say the possibility doesn't exist, regardless of how small I believe that possibility to be.

L-2 will not motivate me either way, quite sure, at that point it is only 5/13 people thinking he is a good lynch, and I don't think he is a good lynch atm, so at that point I'd highly suggest we look at a 2nd possibility for lynch.

If he is still at L-1 like he is now, it will depend on what he has said in the meantime, if anything. I can't be SURE how I'll feel either way (if he says nothing or if he says something, and of course depending on what he then says), but the best I can presume is that if he has said nothing, I will not be comfortable hammering him, and what he says would have to be pretty damn damning for me to also hammer him at this point.

I'm much more comfortable with other choices. To be clear, at this moment, I'm only comfortable voting 4 different people for lynch, they are, in order of comfort:

trent - still my #1 choice, for 1.) meta-shift, which I think is possibly a huge issue going forward in the game further 2.) I think his death could eventually prove a valuable read, and 3.) everything else that has happened with him.

babark - very close to #1 choice and obviously where my vote is currently, I'm not sure if I find it more likely or less likely for him and trent to be scum-buddies, I see things to support both possibilities, and so I am very comfortable with babark

HSL - I find his scum-hunting to be very possibly fake scum-hunting and if there were 3 or 4 other people who felt strongly about him I'd be willing to put my vote on him as well. HSL I'd love to hear what you think about trent and babark before the deadline is over, it could take you off of this list, even, not that you care (:

a4plz - need I say anything here?

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OMG I just refreshed, is that lynch? ...

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