I can see what you mean regarding my play. We should play poker together!

When I read this in the op: "Flips will not be complete. They may not reveal much at all, in fact" it led me to believe there would be some information given. There's a difference between flips will not be complete or not much at all and flips will give you nothing.

I'd chalk it up to my first game without full flips being the werewolf one, where alignment was revealed on death, but not role. So my default instinct when I read partial flips is to assume we'll be learning alignment.

And also what trent said.

T'is a mid-term thing for about half a year, a bit more if job turns out very well. Definitely not my first time visiting Denmark, probably not the last. A fine country it is, with all the crazy (funny) Danish people, skilled craftsman, beer and cakes.

With a coroner in the game I expected the reveal to be nothing....well, nothing useful.

A simple statement of "soandso is dead."

However, there is the possibility scum could get some information but I have no facts to support that; other than experience from old games back on the Mayflower.

I find this mildly disturbing.

So if drealmer7 had been lynched your reaction would have been...."Very Interesting"...as you calmly stroke your white cat.

Am busy moving out right now. I'm expecting people to understand my situation, but I won't give them the satisfaction of playing this tug of war "I'm out of ideas so let's hear YOURS!" game.

Meh, will come with something substantial once I am not under the pressure of moving out by today and then checking out and yada yada.

You're more than welcome.

Anyway, soooo, basically the Exorcist's (can we call him a Witcher?) only value is getting rid of unwanted perma votes or dead scum votes. Welp, I guess it will have to do.

@drealmer: Are you roleplaying again in post #449? I'm trying to read it, but some paragraphs have me confused in regards to your tonality. And which scenario do you find most plausible again?

^This.
You're like my new favorite person on the internet right now.

I echo such thoughts.

Meh. Can you really trust anybody right now?

Can you elaborate on this at all rather than just repeat it over and over as if it is obvious undeniable fact (because it's not)? What actions and behavior were anti-town, and how was it anti-town. If you talk to me about it, maybe we can understand each other better, as I'm certainly not wanting to be anti-town. Let me see your point of view, with logic to back it up (rather than an irrational fear of no-lynch, which you seem to harbor for some unreasonable reason.)

That was only like 4 paragraphs. That's nothing, if I'd had 2 hours to work on the post instead of 30 minutes, it would have probably been 4 times longer. This is why it is highly advised to look at previous games or observe a game before participating, so you know what you're (at least somewhat) getting into. This forum mafia group posts MUCH LESS than other mafia places, I've come to realize. Be glad bler and yogs are not also in this game! Can I ask, how long did it take you to read that post of mine? Was it really that long? :|

Also, it's important to realize that was a basic theorizing post. I wasn't responding to anyone or talking about other ideas that others have posed. Posts can get a LOT longer than that! Just giving you some warning! Hopefully you can bear it. Also know that I have been working on being more concise (hey wyrm, noticed! thanks for the encouragement! I do feel I've improved a bit, and will probably get better as games go on), and it is not my goal to cause strain to others.

Do you have anything to say about the content of what I said??

Yep, this! Come play with us! We'll be gentle for your first time! (well some of us!) ^

This, trent. I'm not going to harp on it, obviously others noticed, whether they pointed it out outloud or not. It's like you're so convinced I'm Evil you have no ability to see beyond your own blindness. Not townie at all. If I didn't have such a horrible history of mis-reading you or think there's a potentiality that you just don't get it (my PoV), you'd have my vote in a heartbeat. Problem is, I can't be sure that your logic is genuinely failing
...

Yes, very smart to re-read bookwyrm and see what he might have been onto, but without having to do a re-read I know that for me, wyrm was ringing more true as a townie than he has in any previous game, and was at the absolute bottom of my suspect list (leaning town HARD, not really even a "suspect" other than the fact that I didn't *know*.) ...

Everyone should do the same, but I think he should be less of a focus than the 5 on my wagon, still.

It makes no sense for me to talk about "if I'm Evil" points, because I know I'm not. Yes, the rest of you have to consider that, obviously, but for me to do it would have been a waste of my time and thoughts because I know I'm Good and I'm trying to figure out who is Evil. Trying to figure out how things would go if I were Evil is a waste of my time. The rest of you should be on that angle and watching me, of course, and I'm glad you are, dess.

Really? I don't find this necessary at all, and actually quite not-cool. You've contributed more in a single post than half of the players have in the entirety of their posts. I think we can be okay losing your involvement for a couple days and be better off with you staying in than having a new player. Of course, this is up to you and the mod to work out, but I think it's a bad idea to sub. I'd be happier with subs for the lurkers coming in. I'm so gd sick of all these lurkers. I'm here busting my ass, taking practically all of the heat trying to find Evil and everyone is off pleasuring their thumbs and enjoying the show (or not enjoying it, but doing nothing else to help or change it.)

Maybe I missed you saying so previously, but does the quoting not work for your for some reason (I see you do it sometimes) ? Can we somehow help you fix it or figure it out? I've been tolerating it and simply been satisfied that you are participating at all in past games, but, I'm kind of fed up with it. You've got many posts from many pages of many players and it is simply a pain in the ass and a waste of time to go dig out what the hell you are referring to (from a game-day ago, at that) and I'd appreciate it if you'd use the quote system. How would you like if every player started posting the way you do? Would you even be able to participate? I'm an active player and I still have 50+ posts to go over and read and potentially respond to, I can't imagine how people with less time to participate are handling your quoting inabilities. So, again, what can we do to help you multi-quote?

I'm guessing it is the quoting system messing you up. Go into another thread and muss with it to try and figure it out (the admin thread is probably a good place.) Everyone {quote_#} must have an {/quote} to close it, and using multiples gets a LITTLE tricky to figure out, but once figured, is pretty easy to do. Note: in order to effectively multi-quote you have to copy, reply, paste, and go through the quoting process again. We will work with you to help you figure it out. If this is not the issue, hmmmm, but it most probably is.


truncation, please bump

Did that Werewolves game influence you too in your take?



Interesting. What sort of information was that?


My cat, if I had one, would be silver.

Don't follow. I was not convinced of drealmer7's scumminess; he's perfectly capable of painting himself in that corner even when he's Town. He was low hanging fruit, and, with no flips, his lynch would have told us what exactly?
Does not mean that I discard the case he's exploiting this to his advantage as Scum this game.



[emphasis added]

I don't see what distinction you want to make here. Elaborate? Preferably before D2 ends.

thanks HSL, even if unintentional

Again, can you please lay out your logic for us? You behave as if I was the SOLE person responsible for no-lynch on D1. I suppose you would have liked me to vote myself and argued for my own lynch? What about the SEVEN OTHER PEOPLE who weren't on the only active wagon? Your bilnd "kill anyone as long as someone dies" mentality is very very anti-town.
How does that "give scum the advantage" even in the slighest. D2 we are down 1 townie, not 2, and...ugh, I've been over it multiple times...
And, why are you so sure I'm scum, again? With quotes and reasons, please!

I'm seeing more and more potential for HSL and trent to be scum-buddies, going for the win by seeming to play against each other and 1 of them (HSL) winning serious enough town points to survive until the end. Not saying this is solidly evidenced or highly likely at this point, but it is something to keep in mind when analyzing everything.

No it's not at all what you said. Annnnnd, again, you're completely mis-representing pretty much everything I said and did. This post is so full of holes, I just can't grasp the logic behind your making of posts like this, if roles weren't revealed I'd be wary of you being suicidal. Again, I suppose you would have liked me to vote myself and push my own wagon and the SEVEN OTHER PEOPLE who were satisfied with a no-lynch over my lynch all get a free pass from your scrutiny? Again, this pings my funny feeling hard, like you're strategizing to clear a scum-buddy who eventually makes a case against you.

I dislike the word "expect", but what I "figured" from the OP (though was open to being wrong) was that there would be no information on flips, but that agent wanted to word it in a way that wasn't 100% confirming that there would be no information to leave it ambiguous enough for us to work it out on our own. I would have been surprised if there'd be information in the flip (other than that the person died of course!)

Are you fucking kidding me? I just did ALL OF THAT *points above*, and you can't be bothered to link wtf you are referring to when you ask me something(you seemed fine with other quotes in your post.) I'm not going to help you (or other lurkers) DO LESS. Make a better effort, HijacK, or ask for a sub, and in the future don't sign up for games where your participation lacks this much into the thick of D2, I'll give noobs a bit more slack, but from you, GET IN THE GAME ALREADY. Thanks.

Their "Bad Eggs" . Curious, does Evil also have "Good Eggs"?

You said [emphasis added] Well, it's been almost 20hrs since you made this post, and I've not seen you look at anyone so far. Are you looking from afar, or did your post not bring the reaction(s) you were hoping for?

You also said [emphasis added] But nth in your post does any of this.

I'd also like to remind you of your statements on various occasions that you write up things when you're not on here, then present them in the thread (IIRC, there's evidence of this in the Scum QT of the the all-Mafia game), so your "kind of fast" and "quickly-thought-out analysis" don't really weigh in for me.

While I don't agree with Dessimu that you should have included the "I'm Scum" cases, after all your goal is to convince us that you're Town, he did provide that perspective which I still take into account.

One question and one question only. Can I have your stuff?

Do I actually have to answer that? smh.

You act as if a dead townie's judgement is infallible and couldn't make a mistake, like placing a vote on one of the 3 good roles. That, right there, is a vote you don't want on one of those townies. Let's assume we suck at lynching scum, like hella bad. And boom, we reach a stage where scum are like, 1 less than majority vote. You wouldn't want that vote on your good role, would you? Except if... you were scum...

Are you HSL?

@drealmer: "Are you fucking kidding me?"

No.

"Thanks."

No.

No.

I am not giving up easily. Can I buy your stuff instead?