And I like your conspiracy theory Hyper...that I came out saying we should look at both JMich and Drealmer as a sideways way to really go after you. That I had planned for you to come after be with your nit-picky posts today, so I could pounce.

Thank you for falling into my trap (sarcasm), but you'll probably just cut out that word anyway and pretend I slipped...

I'm not voting Hyper, I don't think he is scum. I honestly think all the scum are on his wagon now. I hope locw and flub show up soon to add their input.

Who will you Vote for??

Is it not possible for HypersomniacLive to be mafia??

To be blunt, my choices at this moment are between dtremelear7 and lotssofchiickinenwings.

Does anyone else think this doesn't seem at all like Drealmer?

Before I forget - my first response when I saw Trent was dead was, first of all "Why?" And then secondly, "Who could clear himself for perhaps a day by killing Trent?" Drealmer.

Dreamler was hounding Trent all game. Why waste a night kill on him? Exactly - to make it seem like there's no way he'd do something like that. If Dreamler was scum, he'd try to get town to do his dirty work for him and get trent killed ruing the day. But he tried that hard for so long and it never worked. So he took a NK.


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HSL - I don't think you are scum. But this is the biggest thing that gave me cause for concern. There can't be 3 mafia left. I guess... 3 mafia / 3 town / 1 spectre .... dreamler / RW / JMICH... but would they really hope on a wagon that fast?

I digress. We have to have hit at least one scum. Hopefully two, but I don't know that both adalia and babark were scum. would be nice, but that's excellent town play to get 2 mafia two days in a row, esepcially with such little knowledge.

Anyway - why would you causually throw out there "movte JMIch if it looks like it's going to No-Lynch"

a) we can't go to No-Lynch.
b) we have to hit mafia this turn

The think that stinks is that I see the same three on my list. Currently I have you and flubb leaning town.


I don't like dreamler's earlier take that we should only "be voting for top prospect", but in this case, i really think we need a clear 1a and 1b.

Now - I'm learning dreamler. I've been thinking more and more about Hijack. Who had the biggest advantage to gain in the time between Hijack being lynched by A4plz and AgentCar actually announcing it? Drealmer. I've said before that I don't think he could have pulled that off as scum, but the more i think about it - the more it's a brilliant play. He doesn't need Hijack killed during the day. it's great if town does his dirty work for him, but he's just as happy not to vote for the herbalist, look great in the process, and then kill him at night.

And his rage towards a4plz, can be seen over the top and trying to make a point.


I'll take questions from anyone if you are town - what can I be looking at? What specific interactions can i review?

HSL / RW I still think you spend so much time bickering it just becomes white noise. RW - now that you've voted on HSL and your point over and over again - who do you think his scum buddies are/were? What do you think about Flubb who has been pretty quiet?

I will vote for drealmer, JMich, or RW.

Seriously, you are just demeaning. You are the one calling things "non-arguments" and "broken records". You are the one carrying on for a week. Repeating the same bullshit over and over and proclaiming anyone who calls you on it, scum. You need to look at yourself in a mirror. Basically, you can fuck off.

How about everyone vote their conscience and get this game over with...

your wish is our command.

can you provide any intel that wouldn't help scum regarding how/why worym and yogs spoke so clearly about lynching dreamler?

my current take:

scum: RW / Dreamler
undecided: JMich
town: flubb / HSL

spectre: trent

I've been on JMich all game. I'm not totally off him - but it seems very weird that he hopped to quickly on that 3rd vote for HSL. If he was mafia, would he really come out blazing like that right away?

JMich - can you please say more about:
a) why you voted as the third vote so quickly for HSL
b) who do you think his scum buddies are/were

I have no extra intel, if I did I would have revealed it already.

As for JMich, if he's scum he's hoping someone would hammer quickly. If he's town then he's voting based off of the back and forth he had with hyper yesterday.

If you, hyper, and flub can agree on one of the three I'll hammer.

vote drealmer7

also - RW and HSL - I get that you are both frustrated. I get that this has been going on for a while. I get that you both want your dignity and to be heard. and currently RW - you just want the game to be over - so you claim. but please, for the love of at least this day - can we make it about something else? You don't have to change your votes or anything, but take a step back and realize that there is a game going on. Does everyone want to be right and heard? Yes. But if someone isn't willing to do so, you can't force them. So can we please contribute / review other things?

It seems that you have both misinterpreted each other at different points. Has it been one more than the other? I really don't care at this point -- let's move on.

That is obviously what Evil wants Good to be thinking is possible, of course (and you posing the thought certainly doesn't clear you at all of being scum and having been part of the plan, which you are now pushing forward, for me especially, since I know I'm not Evil.) Interesting, locw has called me "dreamler" now, too...is he truly scumbuddies with flub? I could see them being a team together, definitely. (he def. knows it's drealmer...)

I wouldn't be surprised if any of you are scum at this point, but my feelings and thoughts say that RW and JMich are less likely to be.

I don't have much else to go on, and don't think any other of you other good devout folk do either, unless you're scum.

again, like the beginning of the last day, I think it makes sense for everyone to just put their vote on who they think is scummiest, and then we see where we're at. We either take the top 1 or 2 lynch-possibilities and then ask everyone if they are willing to vote for either of them, then they vote for them/votes switch, and then we see where we're at and hopefully it is close to a lynch and moving forward. Everything else is just dicking around!

Any finals points to make are fine, but, it doesn't need to take a week +

I find the way babark's lynch and wagon took off to be suspicious. We dilly-dallied for way long with JMich and trent tied, and then when neither of them was achieving lynch, there was a sudden rush to a different target and he got a pile-on before being able to defend himself not even 24 hours before the deadline anyway. Poor form, townies!

anyway, don't know what else to say for today

lynching me is a whacked idea, but if you are going to do it, scum, please make it quick (I'm sure you won't), the long drawn out days at this point in this game are unbearable for us poor Goods who are operating in almost complete darkness!

What happened to fighting drealmer (and sorry for the misspelling earlier). Now that you've lived to D-5 there's no fight left in you? If you are town we need you in the game.

@RW @JMich - we know you are on the same voting wagon as Drealmer to vote for HSL, but what are your takes on the potential of Drealmer being scum?

Please.

Vote: dremeler7

That's not it at all. I've simply made my cases and see no need to repeat them or for things to draw out long. If people have cases to make for other people, I'm all ears. I'm not in a rush and I'm not giving up, I just have nothing more to add and see nothing more to do/what more can be figured and so am ready to move forward, my cases stand as they have, obviously we can be quite sure I was wrong about trent, but that doesn't do enough of anything to change my view on HSL. If others aren't ready to vote, I suppose that is fine, again, I'll listen to the cases they have to make, certainly.

is this spelling intentional? if yogs was around he'd hop on the mix and spell it "drellllllllllllllllmemarerer"