You

Saw

Me?!?!

I have no plan, clue, or insight.

I'm here for 30 minutes, then out the door for the night.

If I have more meetings tomorrow at work, I'm gonna make the news!!!!

I really love playing with you guys. Just really, really great.

My plan after this game is over, is to join Krypsyn in the hiatus corner doing shots. After we've passed out I'm guessing Vitek will draw dicks on our foreheads.

I don't get any sarcasm ? Sad face emoticon.

I'd actually suggest just throwing in the towel.

Town can't win with so many people apathetic and absent. Town wins through discussion and sleuthing. Mafia wins by sitting around not doing anything.

We just have too many passengers to have a legitimate game. Even with RW and I subbing in for two of the worst..

Just showing up once every day or two to post "I don't know and I don't care" isn't... Well, it isn't anything. I complain about this all the time, I know... but yeah. *shrug* Good for you guys, I guess.

I've said I'd jump on Babark in a heartbeat. So let's see if this moves anything.

Unvote JMich
Vote Babark

F the towel. The Mayor deserves a constituency that gives a flying f. Do I wish I could be involved more? Sure. But I'm checking nights and mornings. Because I care. Let's do it for the children. Let's do it for the children of Wilderberry Hollow.

knock knock knock

There is no reason to throw in the towel. If I didn't care I would have asked to be replaced.

Here's how I see it:

1. drealmer is so caught up in himself that if he's town he's no good to us. I still think he is scum as I have said all game.

2. JMich does not get into tiffs and squabbles with other players during games, he observes peoples plays and if he finds it to be a bad play for town he points it out with facts and reasons and votes accordingly. Have you seen him doing that this game? I have not, I've seen him keeping the arguments going with HSL and that is not helping town at all. Perfect thing for scum to do is keep as much confusion and doubt in the game so no one can focus on anything but that.

3. barbark was all but non existent the first few days of the game and had to be prodded twice by the mod and almost a third time. Since day 2 started he has been posting enough to seem involved. My thought is he drew the scum card as a newbie and was not sure what to do and so was lurking to start. He got some help during the first night in what to do and has been trying to be more involved since. His stance to start was to go with the crowd so he didn't cause waves, and I don't see that to have hardly changed at all.

4. RW, I'm not sure how to take him. He is playing such an awesome town game right now, but it almost feels like he is trying to guide things in a certain direction. He's so town my teeth hurt.

5. I think HSL is playing a very strong town game and trying to scum hunt and when I see JMich, RWarehall, and drealmer trying to paint HSL in a bad light it makes me think they are scum trying to discredit a strong town voice.

6. I don't know how to take flub, I have him as leaning town but it's more of a gut thing than anything he's done or said. The times he's actually been involved and posting questions to others I've felt he was trying to help town, but he has been overly quiet these past few days.

7. lotsofchickenwings has also been playing a good town game IMO, he is involved and making very good points to help town. Him and HSL are the two I feel are the most townie players not including the spectres.

So how do you want us to go about sleuthing? We have about a day till the lynch needs to happen and that means again it will be a rushed one. As I said earlier today we need to get off our asses and come to a consensus and go with it, arguing back and forth is getting us nowhere.

That's the sprit! The spirit of cooperation! And effort! And tangy BBQ sauce!

lol, thank you so much. :) I heard it! I heard it!

Excellent post.

If you're scoring RW as Town, how do you feel about his "let's follow wyrm and lynch babark" strategy? You also feel babark is scum - are you comfortable with this idea?

I agree with most everything else.

I dunno, I've had babark as being pretty reasonable. I'm not sold that adalia was scum. I was pretty sure he wasn't after I grilled him and he responded.

Do we just unite the warring factions and shiv babark?

I don't think adaliabooks was scum either and if he was then he fooled me. I have no issues voting babark

I also don't have RW as town, I said he is acting so town my teeth hurt. I have him as neutral possibly leaning scum.

let's just all kill flub

fucking less than useful meatbag that he is

Meant to do this in my last post.

Unvote JMich
Vote babark

Exactly. That's all I can do at this point. Mine are:

1.) at least 2 scum on my+HijacK's wagon
2.) quite confident that adalia is scum so I'll go with it
3.) upon re-reading I am finding hisvoting of babark and flipping around votes, as either a symbol to scum-buddies to go after him, and it looks to me (and seriously, I do try to view it objectively, not clouded by a bloodthirst, beacuse I really don't have a blood thirst, my desire is to figure it out CORRECTLY) like trent is his buddy in that group - that is just how it looks to be most likely to me
4.) that leaves 1 other on the wagons as scum, and to me that makes the most sense being trent because

1.) he is so confident that adalia is town, not sure why though at all
2.) he pushed me and HijacK from very early in the game and I think is the force behind the hijack lynch, I don't buy it as a huge mistake, I buy it as an intentional move, and think he should be lynched for it, if just out of security for Good to be sure, I think it is a safe kill at least - especially since his 3rd choice has been JMich the whole game, before much of anything from/regarding JMich happened, and to me that looks like an Evil wanting desperately to eliminate someone they see as a big threat
3.) also because to me it seems more likely that meta-switching was a scum-tactic, it just looks sooo conveniently scummy to me, and it upsets me a bit that you all just let it pass. I think if dedo and lift were in this game, they'd be all over him to be killed for it too, out of principle (and while I don't just generally agree with it out of principle, I agree with it in this case, it shouldn't be allowed to pass!)

I really do think flub is town but I'll vote him for lack of participation on top of either trent or HSL. It looks like HSL might have more interest than trent, and perhaps all willing to vote HSL should move over there?

wyrm, can you vote?