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a4plz: So, the only person who can reliably tell us the flip results is the Undertaker / Coroner, but we can't reveal who that is without making them a target. However we do have a Herbalist / Doctor who can anonymously protect the coroner for as long as necessary, if we were to identify him today. Does anyone else support this as an early strategy?
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drealmer7: No, trying to figure out who has the power roles is just doing scum's work for them. No need for town to figure out who the power roles are. What would be the point? We can give advice to what we think those holding the role should do, but even then that gives scum insight into how to counter-strategize, and it is generally best to let the player who has the role decide how it is best to play it.

If we identified the herbalist, then they'd be the target so they can't do more protecting.
I agree with drealmer7.

Even if it is seen as a viable 'early strategy' it would need to wait until at least day 2 otherwise the Doctor's hands are tied Night 1 already.
Ah but see, we never have to identify the herbalist, just motivate them with a group vote. The undertaker is different because they're a critical informant who needs to speak, and if the flips are as useless as the OP suggests, then we'll probably need their information sooner rather than later.

Maybe leave this for the second day though since we don't know all of the game conditions yet.

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cristigale: @a4plz You are either a novice (there's nothing wrong with that, we all were at one time) or your statements are scummy (or both). Which way should we read them? We encourage new players to read at least some of that information so that misunderstandings, like this, do not happen.
Hanlon's razor is the story of my life, let me put it that way.
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a4plz: So, the only person who can reliably tell us the flip results is the Undertaker / Coroner, but we can't reveal who that is without making them a target. However we do have a Herbalist / Doctor who can anonymously protect the coroner for as long as necessary, if we were to identify him today. Does anyone else support this as an early strategy?
I misread your "him" meaning. Regardless, either way, definitely never a good strategy to identify town power roles, unless you're scum (: And then WAYYY MORESO in this setup, considering scum wins when the 3 power roles have been eliminated.
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a4plz: Ah but see, we never have to identify the herbalist, just motivate them with a group vote. The undertaker is different because they're a critical informant who needs to speak, and if the flips are as useless as the OP suggests, then we'll probably need their information sooner rather than later.

Maybe leave this for the second day though since we don't know all of the game conditions yet.
Here's the catch, per post 135: The doctor can only protect the coroner one night before having to take a night off. So if scum shoot at the coroner for two nights in a row, they WILL kill him. This assumes the mystery role doesn't intervene in some fashion.
Whoops, I didn't see agentcarr slip a post in there. My strategy is trash.
Have I fell down a rabbit hole? This feels like Alice in Wonderland or some other bizarre trip...

Will you, won't you, will you, won't you, will you join the dance?
Will you, won't you, will you, won't you, won't you join the dance?

At any rate, time to remove my RVS:

Unvote Dessimu
Vote: No Lynch for tonight.
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lotsofchickenwings: How convenient, Dessimu.
But of course it is convenient! You were not in the game, I have no idea who is worthy of a lynch, so naturally, you seem to be the best candidate. What if you never show up? What if you are Evil and never show up? See where I am going?

So... yea.... Unvote lotsofchickenwings for now. Your appearance is great, but it does not clear you as not Evil.

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cristigale: At any rate, time to remove my RVS:

Unvote Dessimu
And there I thought we were bonding already...

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a4plz: Whoops, I didn't see agentcarr slip a post in there. My strategy is trash.
It would probably work for one Night, but not the second. So, basically not good, yea.

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lotsofchickenwings: #html is my specialty.
How long are you specializing?

Vote babark

I am not following flubbucket here, I am saving my rum. Babark threatens to burn things. Drealmer included
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a4plz: Vote: No Lynch for tonight.
Why?

Here are my counter reasons, or "why no-lynch is a bad choice":
- Our winning condition is to eliminate scum. Our only weapon against scum is lynching. No lynch - means scum live, we might lose.
- You will almost never be sure as to who is scum in the game. There is a group of scum in the game, right now, discussing things with us and we don't know who they are. So even a poorly judged lynch is still a good choice of action, for we may hit (at the very least) scum by accident.
- No lynch means that on Day 2 we will have only a nightkill's victim to look at (if he/she is not saved miraculously by the doctor). We will not know who wanted him/her dead, and reading victim's posts of Day 1 is as good as a fart in a fog. Because Day 1 is full of RVS and jokes, and "things that look smart at the first glance but turn out to be stupid" and most of all, melons.
- (adding to that ^ point) Any lynch - successful (lynch scum) or not (lynch townie) is our source of information to analyze as to who might be scum. It is good. It is something to go on.

Now I feel smarter...
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Bookwyrm627: Okay, okay, you caught us. He's my father.
O___P * PLOT TWIST *
I'm happy to vote no lynch until Game Master Carr gives us more information on what tools we have available. Right now there's a 77% chance of lynching a townie and bringing everyone 1 round closer to a mafia win, on top of whatever happens tonight.
You know... Agentcarr16 mentioned in the opening post, flavor, that "...we must find these cultists...". I am not even thinking about Cult Leader role in the game or anything like that. BUT! When I say "cult" and you look more closely...

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HypersomniacLive: I is kind, I is Good.
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HypersomniacLive: I is kind, I is Good.
Now tell this does NOT look like some mantra, chanting, spell casting, neuro-linguistic programming, hypnotism or suggestion! I know some people like to soft-bread-crub, leave clues about their roles/alignments. And this looks like an Evil cultist's work for me.

Combine it with early poking of drealmer7 and Bookwyrm627, more of drealmer7 - an easier prey for D1 lynch (drealmer7, I say "easy prey" only thinking of your early D1 lynches in past games)... We get a big and valid early question: is HypersomniacLive (as in, this particular player out of all players) scum or not?

And what kind of Good townie pokes father and his son anyway?! * slap * You should be ashamed of yourself!
Did anyone read the flavor and notice that we gathered in a town hall and basically Mayor just told us to kill each other, because something smells funny?
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a4plz: I'm happy to vote no lynch until Game Master Carr gives us more information on what tools we have available. Right now there's a 77% chance of lynching a townie and bringing everyone 1 round closer to a mafia win, on top of whatever happens tonight.
Statistically, No Lynch gives us a zero percent chance of lynching scum.

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Dessimu: Did anyone read the flavor and notice that we gathered in a town hall and basically Mayor just told us to kill each other, because something smells funny?
Seems legit.
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a4plz: I'm happy to vote no lynch until Game Master Carr gives us more information on what tools we have available. Right now there's a 77% chance of lynching a townie and bringing everyone 1 round closer to a mafia win, on top of whatever happens tonight.
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flubbucket: Statistically, No Lynch gives us a zero percent chance of lynching scum.

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Dessimu: Did anyone read the flavor and notice that we gathered in a town hall and basically Mayor just told us to kill each other, because something smells funny?
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flubbucket: Seems legit.
i've lost my voice in person promoting this fact. no lynch gives us a zero percent chance of lynching scum. it's a necessary risk to lynch someone. Also - if it is a townsperson...it might shed light on who jumped on board to try to kill someone quickly. scum love to vote for a townie and move the game along.