What is debunked is your "I'm a poor little townie trying to steer Town to victory" facade. I'd have been utterly surprised if you had accepted that post, and I hope you didn't think that I expected you to.

You're just doing more deflecting, deflecting and refusing to address the actual issue - JMich's reaction in post #885. And the only reason I can see for you vehemently refusing to do it, and desperately trying to lynch Town, is that you're Scum. Scum trying what you yourself suggested Scum would do: getting Town to do your dirty job for you, and lynch our last Power-Role, and failing that, lynch any townie and narrow down the pool to pick from for your NK.

You seem to be very insistent it has to be JMich first. I offered to help. HSL is on your side. I'll be glad to put the 4th votes on people but only if it's Trent first. You are the one saying the scum team is us 4. What can go wrong? No scum left to "make a mistake". And if I don't follow through on JMich, it's pretty clear I'd get lynched.

No comment on HSL getting the mod post so wrong either? Still on this lynch JMich wagon train of yours? You have my offer. I think at this point, if you don't follow through, your alignment is very obvious...

I'm listening to you, yogsloth, but you aren't saying anything.

Please tell me why you think JMich is Evil first. Please tell me why you think RW is Evil.

To me it just looks like you are proposing some WRECKFUL plan "just to see" something with no solid basis for the potential victim involved. You should at least want THEIR consent, I'd think, especially in this setup where we have no idea who the PR could be as a group and it could be a bad bad idea. The only reason I'm willing to try it on trent (or HSL, at this point), is 1.) I think it is actually possible that it is only applicable to Evil in the first place and 2.) I find it less likely they are a PR than most other players, and 3.) we have enough time before the deadline still.

If it gets too much closer to the deadline, I am less up for it, and more confident that the majority of Good will see what others see in trent or HSL and we'll get the majority on one of them.

That is my ultimate preference anyway over this semi-silly plan (again, many holes, sure, possibly harmless, but, possibly not), and if we could just majority vote one of them right now, that's my first proposal of what we do.

I mean, I still need to consider that yogsloth is Evil, and the Evil spectre ability he got is "reduce the # of votes required to lynch on a townie." I mean, you all need to consider that possibility, imo, but I can't force you, of course.

Part of the Spectres mechanic is that they can't be NK-ed. That particular piece was not disclosed in the D2 opening post. Bookwyrm627 confirmed not only that it's part of their mechanic, but that Scum were told about it at that specific time in the game.

Are you ready to call Bookwyrm627 a liar?


@drealmer7 - if I volunteer for this experiment, and don't get lynched with five votes, what conclusion will you draw?

none

What can I say? I've gone "full retard" for drealmer and RW. JMich is not my favorite, but I'd say he's third.

Ya got me - I'm not asking for scum's consent if they'd like to be lynched.

Look at who is seriously considering the merits of my plan, asking questions, thinking it over, doing analysis - and look at who is just frantically fighting it at every step no matter what.

But nothing will happen until chicken, babark, and flub wander through the thread. They've got to play.

If the scum team has trent and HSL - they deserve the win.

If we think it's impossible, I'd hammer any of the three above - just to get the damn thing over with.

that's kind of why it's almost a pointless exercise:

1.) if no targets die performing it, nothing can be determined
2.) if a target dies performing it, nothing can be determined

no flips, no idea what the mechanic is

it's a bad, anti-town plan

vote yogsloth for coming up with it

Hahaha, how surprising. /S

And if I get lynched?

answered in the post above

still none, at this point, with how yogs is being, I wouldn't be surprised if it is the pre-mentioned theory of mine that yogs is possibily Evil with a lower-lynch req. for a townie ability, and he has to hammer. *shrug*

Again, a bad plan, wreckful, anti-town plan, I am off it and not going to participate. I advise others to not participate.

Did you just vote for me, lolofolopowitz?

Can you lynch a dead man?

lol

Hope you're having fun, drealmer. Keep fightin' man, keep fightin'! TO THE BITTER END

NO THEY DON'T, if they are, they've been sucking the entire game and I have known the whole time and the rest of YOU deserve to DIE for letting them win. but let's not let that happen!!!

Maybe I'm reading too much between the lines, but it could be just a couple players Christi thought might be scummy. It could be only scum, but honestly, I doubt the game is designed leaving an auto-scum finder in place.

It sure as heck looks like Yogs is trying to pull one over on us. If it's Christi's choice, then I'm pretty sure JMich is a target and it will prove nothing about his alignment. But I'm sure Yogs will spin it as it does.

And there HSL goes again. As I've said a dozen times. I read both posts. I see nothing scummy in either of them. I see no real evidence at all that JMich had any prior knowledge of anything. What I do see is someone trying way to hard to get him lynched. Was that why you didn't NK him? Because you were convinced you could get him lynched especially after the votes yesterday?

The mods post does not say what you want it to. And you've been arguing this crap for over a week.

What I see is a majority lynched the most likely scum target yesterday, but some people seem to want to replay history today and make sure we don't follow that lead to what seems are a few likely scum cohorts.

You talk of things making sense. If both me and JMich are such scum buddies, does it really make sense for me to stand up for him this much? Or would I have been better served by distancing myself from him? How about Babark? You think I pointed out how Adalia voted him 3 times, because I needed to protect him. It's funny because he was my 2nd choice behind Adalia, I thought he was his scum buddy, until Adalia did everything to throw him under the bus.

Notice how the Yogs, Trent, HSL contingent want us to believe we messed up yesterday. I have to wonder why? Because if we were right yesterday, we aren't necessarily that far from winning...

If we listen to them, well, we supposedly have 3 more scum to lynch and yesterday was a complete waste. Scum get at least 2 more NKs and they only have 5 targets to choose from of which they may have eliminated some. I'm not sure that is winnable. I'm not sure we can get 3 in a row and thus scum get 3 NK's.

But I also wonder if the real story is scum painted themselves in a corner. They don't know who to kill, and at least some of us are on the right track. And convincing us to change course they think will buy them enough time to win.

I know I can't actually cast a vote for you, it was symbolic, and I never unvoted anyway, so my vote is still officially on trent, that should be obvious, you know better, scumsloth!

I go back to the thoughts I had previously about you replacing CSPVG. If CSPVG had been regular vanilla Good with no PR, he would have probably been content lurking participating less and not worried about getting replaced and stayed in the game, imo. If Evil, maybe he felt he couldn't contribute as much in their schedules and schemes and wanted to pass off to someone who would be able to be more active and cunning with than CSPVG could be with the time he had to devote. Enter yogsloth, not making sense ever since joining.

can't be sure, but to me he is being waayyy whacky for regular town at this point

I find it very interesting at the least to say that RW and I are seeing things very similarly all around, and I *KNOW* we are not Evil buddies, and he isn't influencing me at all, my thoughts have come independent of his and way before, sooo, *shrug*, it will certainly be interesting to see how it is once everything is over

anyway, I am off for a while, outside and stuff

Really need more from JMich too, of course. One post every couple of days is just... the suck.

@JMich - how do you feel about these two clowns buddying up to you so hard?