I'm thinking about it. It's not like I have some way of being truly certain you're Scum. And I don't like some of the votes against you.

The problem I have is this - your lynch specifically will tell me something important, even if you flip Town.

That may or may not exist that might or might not actually listen to me. I'm okay with this. I also feel okay with my vote on Lifthrasil. I'm NOT okay being at L-1, more so after your last post.

What about my post gave you paws, err pause, pray tell?

Considering lxamyakxim's case (L-2 now), I would also like to hear opinions from flub, Bookwyrm, dedo, RWarehall, CSPVG and cristigale. Because now it feels like a few of us decided lxam is scum, some joined with no clear reason. I am actually interested now to lynch lxam to be certain if claim was any real. And if lxam turned out to be town, I would think there to be at least 2 scum on the wagon. If lxam is scum, I would say at least 2 scum were on Lift, making a counter wagon to save scum buddy

So, you suddenly feel more sure of your vote on me because I called you out on your insufficient reasoning and voted you. How very convenient. Also you claim an unspecified power role and you try to direct a possible protective town role towards you. It is possible that you claim the truth. But your claim would also make a solid false claim. You don't say anything that can be disproven (without a flip), you don't claim anything where you rist a contradiction from an actual power role holder. This "I am important and have a power role, but I won't tell you what it is for 'Reasons'(TM)" is exactly what scum would do in your place.

Well, I don't see what this wagon is all about. Except for Ixam not unvoting after his mistake, there is nothing. Besides a few fluff votes, he had done mostly nothing, a glorified lurker. Normally that's an issue except that he is around and active which is my main gripe about lurkers. Since I was never convinced of his wagon and he now claims a role, I'm not touching him.

What I see, I'm pretty sure one of Lifthrasil or CSPVG is scum. That said, I'm convinced it isn't both of them. Which to me means either lynch provides useful information about the other. Obviously, since that is where my vote is, I think the scum between the two is Lift.

But let me add one thing...
At this point, I see no reason why you should be hiding your role. You've claimed a power role. You've claimed it implies something about scum numbers. As a loyal outed town, to help us (including you) win the game, you should be providing us with this useful information before you are NK'd and it dies with you.

Need to check with JMich on how this is working for certain. But I think an unvote is necessary before placing a new vote and I don't count this as a vote and still have your vote on krypsyn. If you want to be sure before JMich checks in, simply unvote krypsyn and vote ix in your next post and I will count it as your vote being on ix

opinions and advice from the peanut gallery (the rest of you) is unnecessary on this topic. wait for JMich to make a ruling and otherwise continue on normally

It read to me like laying groundwork for a hammer vote. I could have been wrong / paranoid by being at L-1.

It wasn't that at all. It was your choice to frame me as "not invested in the game" which was patently untrue, not at all what I said AND offered nothing but another nice easy reason to lynch me.

sounds better


Full Town role. As in, with no bastard flavors or what? What makes you "full"? Waiting for tomorrow's fun leads to believe you holding a power role. I find your claim to be like a fart in a fog. It's "something", but nothing solid. See, you just made a fuss which in turn, looks more like scum grasping for survival and being cautious, because it's Day 1 and wrong claim (knowing that Town must never lie) will possibly end you lynched another day. So you choose to speak in mysteries.

How can your role indicate that? PM could indicate that, but role?

The thought did cross my mind. But, I realized I was just annoyed that you won't share any opinion of other players, and that I still don't think you are the best lynch target.

I find it hard to believe that you have so few reads, or feelings, on other players. I know this is Day 1, but you must have some impressions, surely?

As for you claiming... meh... whatever blows your skirt up. I well and truly don't care.

I'm not neutral / third party / alternative win condition etc.

okay, I re-read the OP and still wasn't quite certain. THANKS!

"More scum than anticipated" or "One scum with some anti-town roles". You are now near the end of your rope. Who do you guess are these anti-towns? Be specific in names.