Posted February 21, 2016
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flubbucket
"Intoning"
Registered: Dec 2012
From Micronesia
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Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
Registered: Aug 2014
From Denmark
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted February 21, 2016
Statsitically speaking a broken clock (if it stands still) is the most precise clock at all. Half of the day it is ahead, the other half it loses time. But on average it is precisely correct, which no running clock is.
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted February 21, 2016
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unvote
vote Ixamyakxim
(but that is flavour again. And actual game wise I still find the voting behaviour of Krypsyn's little gang more suspicious and I'd prefer to either lynch Krypsyn or Dessimu. And since no one else is voting Krypsyn any more I'll vor Dessimu instead. He placed the fourth vote after all. Without a good reason. Which is a bit much.)
unvote Ixamyakxim
vote Dessimu
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dedoporno
A bloody pirate!
Registered: Apr 2012
From Bulgaria
Posted February 21, 2016
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But yeah, my feeling is that it's unlikely the roles come with alignment and the plot is pre-made.
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Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
Registered: Aug 2014
From Denmark
Posted February 21, 2016
With no crazy remarks, Lift, it really looks to me that you want to vote for us just because we voted most loud or most distinctly. There are still some who did not vote at all and some who voted quietly and did not attend to the game much. I strongly suggest you reconsider your voting.
As per my votes. Jumping on a wagon was my very first RVS vote with pretty much no reason. Check it - vote with some flavor-wise nonsense.
And what about my latest vote on Ixamyakxim? You, dear Catherine are the second person who has completely ignored my behavior, reasoning, guesses and hypothesis after the first vote placed. You and cristigale. You both act in the very same way. At the moments you voted me, you both "reasoned" that "Dessimu's jump on a wagon is suspicious". But at the same moments, this wagon that you refer to, has already been dismantled. Take a look through the posts and tell me if I am lying.
So, why do you both are so eager to suspect me, reasoning with the wagon that has already gone before you voted me? Why have not mentioned anything about my vote on Ixamyakxim? It's as if you are trying to cast suspicions on me, leaving all other indications aside.
I am already expanding too much. By do not like your and cristigale's strange votes. Because they are implied in a way that twists the truth about my behavior. What's more, I find Erin's (Ixamyakxim's) change of heart suspicious. It happened after I clearly said I do not trust her. Her daughter (flavor-wise) voting me for anything strengthens my theory that mommy and her little angel are working together. And since you, Lift, sound just like cristigale, I think you might be working together.
My suspects now are Ixamyakxim, cristigale and Lifthrasil. Vote stays on Ixamyakxim.
As per my votes. Jumping on a wagon was my very first RVS vote with pretty much no reason. Check it - vote with some flavor-wise nonsense.
And what about my latest vote on Ixamyakxim? You, dear Catherine are the second person who has completely ignored my behavior, reasoning, guesses and hypothesis after the first vote placed. You and cristigale. You both act in the very same way. At the moments you voted me, you both "reasoned" that "Dessimu's jump on a wagon is suspicious". But at the same moments, this wagon that you refer to, has already been dismantled. Take a look through the posts and tell me if I am lying.
So, why do you both are so eager to suspect me, reasoning with the wagon that has already gone before you voted me? Why have not mentioned anything about my vote on Ixamyakxim? It's as if you are trying to cast suspicions on me, leaving all other indications aside.
I am already expanding too much. By do not like your and cristigale's strange votes. Because they are implied in a way that twists the truth about my behavior. What's more, I find Erin's (Ixamyakxim's) change of heart suspicious. It happened after I clearly said I do not trust her. Her daughter (flavor-wise) voting me for anything strengthens my theory that mommy and her little angel are working together. And since you, Lift, sound just like cristigale, I think you might be working together.
My suspects now are Ixamyakxim, cristigale and Lifthrasil. Vote stays on Ixamyakxim.
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted February 21, 2016
Accuracy is a bitch though. However, you are quite right, it has a precise, triangle wave, variance.
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted February 21, 2016
No, I don't find you suspicious because you voted, but because you further pushed a fast moving train. One vote in RVS is still random. A second vote on the same person too. A third vote not so much. A fourth vote, without actual reason, on the same person during RVS is definitely NOT random any more. It's just trying to push a wagon. You put RWarehall on L-3. That means if scum were not already on the wagon, they could have speedlynched (unlikely that they do that on Day 1, but still risky). So, please explain to me, what made RWarehall so suspicious in your eyes that he deserved putting a fourth vote on him? What town reason was there, for piling on so quickly?
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Ixamyakxim
Boxer Dogs Rule
Registered: Feb 2014
From United States
Posted February 21, 2016
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I'm still more suspicious of you for your constant accusations, often based solely on flavor. Seems like you're planting seeds to grow into lynch-able plants later on. But let's be honest, who really knows at this point.
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Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
Registered: Aug 2014
From Denmark
Posted February 21, 2016
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If you town, you are mislead by the lack of involvement in the game from at least of third of players. If you are scum, you are pushing my wagon together with cristigale, based on old RVS news and ignoring new news. Bookwyrm is voting out of the blue (post 135). Unless I get a normal explanation, this is most definitely a wagon pushing.
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RWarehall
Ja'loja!
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted February 21, 2016
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Of course scum know what town are looking for and try to avoid that behaviour. Still, to win they have to try to lead town to lynch one of their own. But that's something one can only analyze on Day 2, when looking at the train of someone whose alignment has been revealed.
What I do on Day 1 normaly is:
1. look for someone who's over-eager or acting suspiciously (you, in this case)
2. if that fails, lynch a lurker
3. try to remember who said what, so that one can later compare to revealed facts to catch a liar (town should NEVER EVER lie!)
It is still possible, that your over-eagerness was a scum mistake. That you saw a chance to push a wagon and took it, not knowing that town is looking for something like that exactly. Or it was an honest town-lost-in-playing-flavour mistake. Hard to tell at the moment. But for now I'll
unvote Dessimu
and look for another target.
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
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dedoporno
A bloody pirate!
Registered: Apr 2012
From Bulgaria
Posted February 21, 2016
I don't know if you followed last game but Dessimu proved to be quite capable so there is absolutely no reason to cut him slack just because he is new. Being early is a bit better but on D1 usually the small things are what gets the game going.
Lifthrasil: It is still possible, that your over-eagerness was a scum mistake. That you saw a chance to push a wagon and took it, not knowing that town is looking for something like that exactly. Or it was an honest town-lost-in-playing-flavour mistake. Hard to tell at the moment. But for now I'll
unvote Dessimu
and look for another target. Then again a tip from a fellow scum buddy before the first night might also be helpful to keep things in line. As, Ix said before
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unvote Dessimu
and look for another target.
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Dessimu
Irish ☕ good
Registered: Aug 2014
From Denmark