Posted March 14, 2019
Lifthrasil
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JoeSapphire
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Lifthrasil
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Lifthrasil Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Apr 2011
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Posted March 14, 2019
I neglected one case in my above formula, also it contains a mathematical error. There are actually two special seats one has to consider. The chance that 'Vitek' sits in his own seat was covered. But there is also the chance that he sits in the seat of the last person. In which case the chance to get it correct is 0.
So the correct formula would be: P(n) = (1/n)*1 + (1/n)*0 + ((n-2)/n)*P(n-1). Sure, the (1/n)*0 falls out of the equation since it's 0. But the -2 instead of the -1 makes a big difference. It allows to solve by forward induction instead of working backwards over sums (which I neglected to do formally correct).
We know that P(2)=1/2
Now let's take the above equation while assuming that we know that P(n-1)=1/2
P(n) = 1/n + ((n-2)/n)*(1/2)
= 2/2n + (n-2)/2n = (2+n-2)/2n = n/2n = 1/2
So, if any P(n) is 1/2, then all higher P(n+m) are also 1/2 and we know that for n=2 the assumption P(n)=1/2 is true.
So the correct formula would be: P(n) = (1/n)*1 + (1/n)*0 + ((n-2)/n)*P(n-1). Sure, the (1/n)*0 falls out of the equation since it's 0. But the -2 instead of the -1 makes a big difference. It allows to solve by forward induction instead of working backwards over sums (which I neglected to do formally correct).
We know that P(2)=1/2
Now let's take the above equation while assuming that we know that P(n-1)=1/2
P(n) = 1/n + ((n-2)/n)*(1/2)
= 2/2n + (n-2)/2n = (2+n-2)/2n = n/2n = 1/2
So, if any P(n) is 1/2, then all higher P(n+m) are also 1/2 and we know that for n=2 the assumption P(n)=1/2 is true.
JoeSapphire
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Posted March 14, 2019
Lifthrasil: I neglected one case in my above formula, also it contains a mathematical error. There are actually two special seats one has to consider. The chance that 'Vitek' sits in his own seat was covered. But there is also the chance that he sits in the seat of the last person. In which case the chance to get it correct is 0.
So the correct formula would be: P(n) = (1/n)*1 + (1/n)*0 + ((n-2)/n)*P(n-1). Sure, the (1/n)*0 falls out of the equation since it's 0. But the -2 instead of the -1 makes a big difference. It allows to solve by forward induction instead of working backwards over sums (which I neglected to do formally correct).
We know that P(2)=1/2
Now let's take the above equation while assuming that we know that P(n-1)=1/2
P(n) = 1/n + ((n-2)/n)*(1/2)
= 2/2n + (n-2)/2n = (2+n-2)/2n = n/2n = 1/2
So, if any P(n) is 1/2, then all higher P(n+m) are also 1/2 and we know that for n=2 the assumption P(n)=1/2 is true.
I checked your working for you, and it's all correct. So the correct formula would be: P(n) = (1/n)*1 + (1/n)*0 + ((n-2)/n)*P(n-1). Sure, the (1/n)*0 falls out of the equation since it's 0. But the -2 instead of the -1 makes a big difference. It allows to solve by forward induction instead of working backwards over sums (which I neglected to do formally correct).
We know that P(2)=1/2
Now let's take the above equation while assuming that we know that P(n-1)=1/2
P(n) = 1/n + ((n-2)/n)*(1/2)
= 2/2n + (n-2)/2n = (2+n-2)/2n = n/2n = 1/2
So, if any P(n) is 1/2, then all higher P(n+m) are also 1/2 and we know that for n=2 the assumption P(n)=1/2 is true.
glad I could help. ;)
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Posted March 14, 2019
It's legitimately distressing to me that I can no longer follow the math. I feel like less of a man.
I brute-forced n=2, 3, and 4, and they all came up 50%.
I brute-forced n=2, 3, and 4, and they all came up 50%.
JoeSapphire
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Posted March 14, 2019
(you can make yourself feel better by claiming to have checked someone's working and telling them it all adds up. Makes you look very smartbrains.)
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ZFR
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Posted March 14, 2019
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my name is catte
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Posted March 15, 2019
Good news everybody! I've found the trail of our missing mod.
Someone just needs to go and threaten the seller until they tell us who the buyer was.
Someone just needs to go and threaten the seller until they tell us who the buyer was.
JoeSapphire
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Posted March 15, 2019
if we can just post in this thread 3000 more times we can get the reply count to spell 'boob'
Well, 2999 now.
Go!
Well, 2999 now.
Go!