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Lifthrasil: Ah, then maybe he left as well. I wrote to him and asked whether he is still up for modding. Let's wait a day or two for a reply.
Good idea.

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Lifthrasil: I played around with the setup a bit in my head and decided to limit the conversion shots. So the game would be a hybrid between regular play and cult play. Since it is going to be open anyhow, have a look at the current setup and tell me what you think.
1) What happens if both scum teams try to convert the same vanilla townie on the same night? It might be best to just cancel both conversion attempts and leave the townie unaffected (all the nanites and parasites kill each other). The best alternative is probably to kill the townie.

2) Assume one scum team converts a vanilla townie. If the other scum team, on a later night, attempts to convert that (former) vanilla townie, then the second conversion attempt results in the later converter dying, correct?

3) If a scum converter dies without using their conversion attempt, does the conversion attempt die with them? Each starting scum player has one conversion attempt, instead of each scum team having two conversion shots for anyone on the team to use.
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Bookwyrm627: While I am in the danger zone, maybe I should vote for the cult game as a way of opening up some job opportunities... ;)
Machiavelli would be proud. Make sure to only drink bottled water.
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Lifthrasil: ... Has anyone seen Gamma?
A PM was sent on 9/13 inquiring about his game setup. He replied on 9/22 saying he was getting some input from another player on this site regarding balance.

An additional PM was sent on 10/05 asking if he was ready to host now.

Waiting.....
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Bookwyrm627: 1) What happens if both scum teams try to convert the same vanilla townie on the same night? It might be best to just cancel both conversion attempts and leave the townie unaffected (all the nanites and parasites kill each other). The best alternative is probably to kill the townie.

2) Assume one scum team converts a vanilla townie. If the other scum team, on a later night, attempts to convert that (former) vanilla townie, then the second conversion attempt results in the later converter dying, correct?

3) If a scum converter dies without using their conversion attempt, does the conversion attempt die with them? Each starting scum player has one conversion attempt, instead of each scum team having two conversion shots for anyone on the team to use.
1) I think the second option is more balanced and fits with the flavour. The target's brain can't cope with the double conversion attempt and shuts down. I.e. the double conversion attempt is turned into a joint NK (which hurts town a bit), but both Converters have used up their conversion attempt (which hurts scum).
The other balanced alternative would be that the two Recruiters somehow feel that a disturbance is present and refrain from using their attempt that night. I.e. no one dies and no attempts are used up. But that would mean that nothing happens at night which would be boring.

2) Yes, a converted player has conversion immunity in the next night.

3) Yes, if a Converter dies before using his power, the power (i.e. one conversion shot) dies with him. I intend that as conflicting incentives for scum, so that the decision, when to use the power, becomes more interesting. If you wait until the Masons are known, your chance of success increases. But you run the risk of getting lynched without getting the chance to use the power.

Thank you for your feedback!
Post edited October 09, 2017 by Lifthrasil
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TheGOGfather: A PM was sent on 9/13 inquiring about his game setup. He replied on 9/22 saying he was getting some input from another player on this site regarding balance.
Three guesses on which player, and the first two don't count.

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TheGOGfather: An additional PM was sent on 10/05 asking if he was ready to host now.
I would posit that someone who goes this long without a response is probably not a good candidate to moderate a Mafia game.
Bookwyrm627 covered the things I wanted to ask with his questions #1 and #3.



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Krypsyn: [...] I would posit that someone who goes this long without a response is probably not a good candidate to moderate a Mafia game.
I was going to say that I hope his moderator availability/dedication is a few notches higher than his player one.
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Krypsyn: I would posit that someone who goes this long without a response is probably not a good candidate to moderate a Mafia game.
Let's wait till tomorrow which is about 5 days since the last ping and we can move things forward with Lift.
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dedoporno: Let's wait till tomorrow which is about 5 days since the last ping and we can move things forward with Lift.
As a friend of mine has said on occasion: "Not my circus, not my monkeys." :)

Lifthrasil possibly needs time to think through and balance his new game concept anyway, so no sense hurrying up, just to end up waiting.
Post edited October 09, 2017 by Krypsyn
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TheGOGfather: A PM was sent on 9/13 inquiring about his game setup. He replied on 9/22 saying he was getting some input from another player on this site regarding balance.
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Krypsyn: Three guesses on which player, and the first two don't count.

..............
You.....

You mister are just too sassy.
Sadly I have to sit out the new game but most likely by the time it is over I will be moved in and ready to play again.
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Sage103082: Sadly I have to sit out the new game but most likely by the time it is over I will be moved in and ready to play again.
How can you sit out the game that hasn't started yet??
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flubbucket: How can you sit out the game that hasn't started yet??
Currently everyone is sitting it out anyway, so we are all dandy!
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Sage103082: Sadly I have to sit out the new game but most likely by the time it is over I will be moved in and ready to play again.
Can't you sit while playing?

I have added a paragraph for Converts and added some lines about factional protection and flips in the play document. I think the setup is ready to run. Let's give Gamma another day, since I am very busy today anyhow. Then I will create a signup thread (either late tonight or tomorrow morning, CEST)
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Sage103082: Sadly I have to sit out the new game but most likely by the time it is over I will be moved in and ready to play again.
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flubbucket: How can you sit out the game that hasn't started yet??
Skills
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flubbucket: How can you sit out the game that hasn't started yet??
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Sage103082: Skills
I shall sit at your feet and learn.

If I appear to have passed out, it's from all the learning.