Posted May 22, 2019
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dedoporno
A bloody pirate!
Registered: Apr 2012
From Bulgaria
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted May 22, 2019
Hard claim Role Cop
Why on earth would a Townie bid for Role Cop?
A couple of good reasons.
In a ten-player game, it was most likely there would be only two mafia, and there are far more important roles for them to bid on. Godfather, strongman, roleblocker, ninja, vigilante… any of these would be way more useful to mafia, so I knew role cop probably wouldn’t be picked at all. (Surprise to me that it was, and by another probable Townie, sorry micro!) That made it far more likely that I wouldn’t screw myself and be vanilla like last time. (Thanks again, bler.) But far more importantly, exactly because there were such a small handful of super-useful mafia roles, the role cop would actually function – in practical terms – like a full-blooded alignment cop.
Extra useful since I believe the mafia team actually snagged the cop role.
There are certain roles on the list that just make no sense as one alignment or the other. Why would a Townie ever bid for Godfather? Why would a scum ever bid for Lightning Rod? With a little luck and some good strategy in picking my targets, I figured if I could dodge a nightkill, I could come up with enough results to at least clear a player or two.
Night 1 – target was flubbucket. I’m not gonna tell you his role, just that the odds that a scum would pick it in a game this small is so remote as to not be worth considering. He’s locked Town, hard.
Night 2 – bookwyrm. Now, his role could be picked as either alignment, and I’ll out it if I need to… but now that I know his role and compare it to a) how he’s played and b) the Nightkills… I would be very surprised if he were scum, and unfortunately, nuts to my actual reads this game. But most importantly… even if he is scum… we can actually sort that out pretty easily.
@wyrm
You willing to work together and do a thing Today?
Why on earth would a Townie bid for Role Cop?
A couple of good reasons.
In a ten-player game, it was most likely there would be only two mafia, and there are far more important roles for them to bid on. Godfather, strongman, roleblocker, ninja, vigilante… any of these would be way more useful to mafia, so I knew role cop probably wouldn’t be picked at all. (Surprise to me that it was, and by another probable Townie, sorry micro!) That made it far more likely that I wouldn’t screw myself and be vanilla like last time. (Thanks again, bler.) But far more importantly, exactly because there were such a small handful of super-useful mafia roles, the role cop would actually function – in practical terms – like a full-blooded alignment cop.
Extra useful since I believe the mafia team actually snagged the cop role.
There are certain roles on the list that just make no sense as one alignment or the other. Why would a Townie ever bid for Godfather? Why would a scum ever bid for Lightning Rod? With a little luck and some good strategy in picking my targets, I figured if I could dodge a nightkill, I could come up with enough results to at least clear a player or two.
Night 1 – target was flubbucket. I’m not gonna tell you his role, just that the odds that a scum would pick it in a game this small is so remote as to not be worth considering. He’s locked Town, hard.
Night 2 – bookwyrm. Now, his role could be picked as either alignment, and I’ll out it if I need to… but now that I know his role and compare it to a) how he’s played and b) the Nightkills… I would be very surprised if he were scum, and unfortunately, nuts to my actual reads this game. But most importantly… even if he is scum… we can actually sort that out pretty easily.
@wyrm
You willing to work together and do a thing Today?
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted May 22, 2019
So, to do the math-
Seven players left.
I'm Town; flub is Town
micro - in addition to the Town read I've had of his overall play - has just no reason at all to claim that he bid for role cop and lost as mafia. Just none. I can't see it. He's Town.
That leaves wyrm, dedo, ZFR, and Joe
I've got a pretty strong Town read on dedo at this point, as his read of the situation is just so spot on.
Wyrm's play and role make perfect sense as Town as well, and he can contribute to clearing himself.
...
Are you following the numbers here, my people?
...
PLUS we have whatever info might be available from other Town night actions.
PLUS if I'm wrong in one of my reads, with two mafia, we have a mis-lynch to give away.
Seven players left.
I'm Town; flub is Town
micro - in addition to the Town read I've had of his overall play - has just no reason at all to claim that he bid for role cop and lost as mafia. Just none. I can't see it. He's Town.
That leaves wyrm, dedo, ZFR, and Joe
I've got a pretty strong Town read on dedo at this point, as his read of the situation is just so spot on.
Wyrm's play and role make perfect sense as Town as well, and he can contribute to clearing himself.
...
Are you following the numbers here, my people?
...
PLUS we have whatever info might be available from other Town night actions.
PLUS if I'm wrong in one of my reads, with two mafia, we have a mis-lynch to give away.
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blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
Registered: Apr 2012
From Other
Posted May 22, 2019
@yog how do you know there are only 2 scum? There is a chance of a 3rd faction.
So you think zfr and joe is scumteam? It's hard for me to read joe because i never played with him, but zfr so far played similarly to the previous game if I'm not mistaken.
So you think zfr and joe is scumteam? It's hard for me to read joe because i never played with him, but zfr so far played similarly to the previous game if I'm not mistaken.
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted May 22, 2019
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So you think zfr and joe is scumteam? It's hard for me to read joe because i never played with him, but zfr so far played similarly to the previous game if I'm not mistaken.
But there have been two consecutive nights with only one NK. That tells me it's highly unlikely we have a serial killer. (And really, with only 10 players, for balance reasons - how could you?) So if there's a 3P it's likely just a survivor and I don't really care one way or the other.
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted May 22, 2019
Well
I guess I'll wait then
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a little anti-climactic thus far
I guess I'll wait then
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a little anti-climactic thus far
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Bookwyrm627
ADD Jumping Bean
Registered: Nov 2013
From United States
Posted May 22, 2019
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Yeah, I think I'm willing to work with you.
We doing a full claim now? I'm guessing Flub and I go last, since we've been rolecopped?
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted May 22, 2019
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We doing a full claim now? I'm guessing Flub and I go last, since we've been rolecopped?
You don't claim before I claim for you to verify I'm telling the truth.
ZFR can go ahead and claim next... or, you know
something else could happen to him
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Bookwyrm627
ADD Jumping Bean
Registered: Nov 2013
From United States
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted May 22, 2019
Name, please.
Sure. I'm JOAT. Name's Geppetto. I wanted to go for Vig, then decided on the JOAT since it has Vig + extra.
No action N1. N2 I rolecopped our cop. I can say who he is if you want confirmation. But I'd rather wait and see what results he got.
Sure. I'm JOAT. Name's Geppetto. I wanted to go for Vig, then decided on the JOAT since it has Vig + extra.
No action N1. N2 I rolecopped our cop. I can say who he is if you want confirmation. But I'd rather wait and see what results he got.
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Bookwyrm627
ADD Jumping Bean
Registered: Nov 2013
From United States
Posted May 22, 2019
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No action N1. N2 I rolecopped our cop. I can say who he is if you want confirmation. But I'd rather wait and see what results he got.
Who would you like to see claim next?
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted May 22, 2019
Personally I think that's distasteful to claim exact flavor. Too much time on MU where that's just an insta-modkill, no questions asked.
The name relates directly to my role. There are tons of "cops" in Disney lore. I could fake one if I wanted.
But let's say my character was Dr. Evil McNastypants.
What of it?
The name relates directly to my role. There are tons of "cops" in Disney lore. I could fake one if I wanted.
But let's say my character was Dr. Evil McNastypants.
What of it?