It's quite possible I'm overlooking something. Feel free to enlighten me.


You are reaching which is below you usual gameplay. I'm quite certain if I left myself out of this you or someone else would have noted it as lamist and that's practically the whole point of the "bitch, I might be" meme. The most honest and truthful assumption for people who don't know better (in this case I assume I am the only one who knows about me) is to include everyone else in the list of possible suspects.


Remember that friendly advice you liked so much before? Do you not like it anymore? If not maybe you should stop referring to it in the future.


Of course it will., Shooty McShootypants. I see you are getting ready for your end-game. You may have to race HSL for it.

Shooty McShootpants......(the second Y is silent)

Also Real Name for the record.

Well, I get the distinct feeling that this game is about to end anyway and, as I said earlier, not in our favor so I'll at least try to avoid a free flash wagon in the off-chance cristi or HSL are Town, even though I'm pretty sure all 3 of you are neutrals at this point.


I'm Wesley Gibson (Wanted). My occupation is Account Manager and I'm the real Town Vigilante. I had one-shot night kill. No known limitations or conditions, straight up Vig shot (no mind-blowing Town roles still).

Earlier in the game we touched on the topic on whether or not Yog's kill was name based. I thought it was because of something he said: "Wesley, I will kill you in the morning blah blah". When I saw my name I wasn't sure how to react and if I should do it right away because I was afraid I might expose a Flavor or similar cop and I would have leaked my personal details in the process. The funniest part was that in the game I hosted I used a clip from the movie Wanted in which Wesley shoots the villain at the end to visualize a mod warning towards Yog. I appreciated him hunting me down as that same character as some sort of twisted poetic justice.

Later on he claimed which made things a bit easier since I got to question subtly about how he got my name. Ironically that turned out to be the silliest coincidence and I figured he knew nothing about me. On the other hand he made a very questionable claim especially in comparison with my own ability. He was also very adamant on using his kill publicly which I read as a preemptive attempt to cover against some form of tracking. So I shot him. I hoped he would kill Hijack like he said he would so we could end up with both questionable claims removed from the equation and some flips to work with, yet the bonus part didn't work out.


Flub seems like the most obvious scum at this point (most likely Neutral), I was hoping that HSL was Town but I'm more and more leaning towards a Neutral judging by his posts (almost sure he is not mafia). Cristi felt off to me for quite some time but her latest post about hoping the game would be over or for her to be dead makes me think she is also Neutral.

From the current state of the game I don't see how I can secure a town win anymore since I'm pretty sure I'm alone but I'd love to see how you kill each other if you decide to come out as non-town and lynch me. It will be fun to see what the end result will be if everyone dies in the end.


My bad. I misread it.

Indubitably!


Back to doing overtime now.

The game was merely inconvenient for the past couple of days. It's far from a burden. If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't be trying to finish. I imagine I'm just as curious to understand how this seemingly unconventional setup works as the rest of you. And no, I don't think a sub is a good idea on D4 with 4 players remaining.

No, I’m not Neutral. I’m Town.

Isn't that overkill? ;-)

But seriously, I saw your answer to Hyper about why you think multiple players tried to kill me both nights. Not sure I followed the progression. Can you explain that again?

Are you saying that is both your role and name?


I just finished reading. Recent reveals obviously play a factor in how I read the remaining players. I need some sleep to process this with a clear head. Wednesday and Thursday are mostly open for me. I’ll be around to share my thoughts and answer questions.

I can't speak for others but at some points things are getting a bit overwhelming for me. Mostly when I have too much stuff to do at work and I can't check during the day only to get back to a few walls of text in which cases I tend to make mistakes and even entirely miss some things. But I'm still able to keep up to a satisfactory level, I think.

What is a (or is it always the?) hash slung?


Quite a bit to go over, I see. I'm having guests from out of town, so just a very quick skim for now. I'm going to be back later my tonight, after I have a chance to process all this, the clarification I asked flubbucket for (hopefully) included.

Sorry I missed this. (and messed up the previous quote DOH!!)

The mechanic involved in my role is basically shyness. If another player attempts to "do" something to my intended target I run away.

I'm kind of a bad ass. ;D

That's clever, whether it's your invention or RWarehall's. When I first read the name, I thought "bollocks". That doesn't seem to fit with the rest. George Zimmerman, that does fit, I can see why the name would be changed. I can totally see you or yogs crafting that name (as a mod). Does RWarehall?

So this is what we know:

Town: trent
Mafia: yogs
Neutral (of some sotr): the rest

My guess is town is meant to have about as slim a chance to win as everyone else. I think it's safe to assume, there is not a two-mafia team remaining. Otherwise, the game should be over. So if there was a mafia team, there is only one mafia left. With the number of neutrals, I could see a single mafia role being thrown in to muddy the waters. JMich's kill, which includes indications it was related to Lift's, does not seem like a mafia kill. A Neutral must still be among us. Best case scenario is 3 town and one neutral. Possible, but doesn't seem probable that many town managed to survived to D4. Worst case (as dedo hypothesized) is town has already lost. I'd like to think 2 town are left.

If what flubb says is true, he tried to kill me and someone else visited me as well. I can neither confirm or deny this. I don't know why flubb lies about trying to kill me twice. That's a really bizarre lie. If that is true, dedo or hyper must have visited me while the other would have killed JMich. dedo claims neither. Wait...JMich likely had an action. So if both flubb and dedo are telling the truth about their actions, JMich must have visited me and Hyper killed JMich.

@Hyper - did you kill JMich?

If it all went down this way, it doesn't necessarily confirm anyone as town but it does shed light on the night actions.

I'll share my role and actions next.

My name is Dr. Janice Bull. It appears to be a gender play on Dr. Jason Bull from the TV show of the same name. My role is Jury Analyst. Practically, my role is a take on the Parity Cop. Each night I learn whether the alignment of the player selected matches that of the player selected the previous night. Something notable is that I have developed cataracts in my old age. I can still analyze but not as in depth as in the past. (BTW, I asked at the time about how the cataracts affected my results, the answer was not helpful.)

On N0, I selected bler. I thought his town game was easier to spot than most others, which could help when determining future results.

On D1, when yogs indicated he would investigate as Mafia, that seemed to make the cataract information make sense. I would see some players as what they seemed, my vision was not good enough to see the actual results. It provided some credence to yogs telling the truth. As well as Hijack’s claim that followed.

On N1, I chose HijacK. I expected Hijack to die N1. I was hoping my result along with the flip would help make a clear read on bler and provide a better basis for potential future results. I was a bit disappointed when he survived the night. But now we had bler’s flip: “Neutral” and players who flipped both with and without quotes.

My result was Not the Same. I didn’t see any point in revealing this information. It didn’t refute Hijack’s claim, but it didn’t confirm it either. I was able to ask and somewhat confirm at this point that my hunch about the cataracts was correct.

So N2, I selected Lift. I thought he was likely scum. The report came back Not the Same. He flipped Neutral while HijacK had already flipped “Mafia”. D3 trent reports on the meaning of the quotes. If trent was telling the truth, I couldn't see that had any correlation to how my role worked.

On N3, trent had flipped town and already indicated JMich was scum. Selecting JMich seemed unnecessary. Of the remaining players, flub seemed the most suspicious. I chose flubb. He reported Not the Same to Lift’s Neutral. That tells me that flub will not flip Neutral or “Neutral”. But from what we know from trent, flubb could still be some anti-town neutral (“town”). He could also be town or mafia.

BTW, the thought occurred to me that if flubb is telling the truth, me visiting Hijack might have prevented his death on N1. However, that doesn’t fit with my visit to Lift on N2, he still died.

I've also noted that all my results are Not the Same. Perhaps something is screwy but the results fit with my understanding of the role.

flubbucket is telling the truth.

flubbucket is town not neutral.

Why would you visiting HijacK have prevented his death??

At first I thought the same but then I realized that the additional kills available may be overriding the default rule about this. Normally the mafia wins when they have at least the same amount of players left because they can block the lynch and they will kill during the night which will automatically give them control over the vote on the next day and from then on it's a landslide which we just skip. Having other kills or prevention in the game can tamper with this mechanic because the mafia may wake up in the exact same situation because they also lost a member or maybe even worse than before (i.e. they lost a member and their kill was prevented). Not sure how and if this was handled in past games and if the mafia would win just because their win condition is worded in a specific way regardless of the potential of different outcome.

Anyway, I also don't think there is more than one mafia or at least not on the same team. I'm more inclined to see multiple neutrals based on what interactions we have going on and general behavior. At the time of writing this (I haven't read your whole posts yet, I type as I read) I still think I'm alone but if that's not the case I strongly doubt there is more than one other townie.


Yeah, pretty sure we are nowhere near that.

I can only hope but I'm fear we are past that point as well... Let's see though, the game is still going.


If we are to believe the quotes mean killer JMich should have killed you. Unless he was also shy. HSL asked me to confess that I was the torturer so I don't see him taking responsibility for that.

You've asked anyway, I see.


I haven't yet finished and I already started to like you! I'm not sure I'm allowed to say why but I will check.


I maybe missed something but how are you sure Neutral and "Netural" will give the same result?


From what I gathered flub is the one who doesn't go through with the kill rather than someone else actively preventing it. This means it's not you stopping it, but him reacting to you being there. Flub claims he didn't target Hijack so unless there was another shy killer (JMich?) there is no reason to think you saved stopped the kill. If it was JMich and he was also shy, why would he try to kill the same target another player took the responsibility of killing? Or was yog also shy? Yet his role seems to be the one which makes the most sense of being execution style and that kill disappeared since.


Bastard stuff seems quite possible at this moment so this may be, but also we have quite extensive variety of alignments with or without quotes.

RW said it's OK to share this - when the game started and we had the first Twilight he the players to provide him with night actions, go to their respective chats and so on. I PMed him that I'm not doing anything and he responded that I wasn't allowed to anyway and how N0 was more for initial prepration for mafia chat and potentially for investigative roles like parity cop or similar to kickstart their ability if they were in the game (I'm paraphrasing and RW made sure he was vague but you get the gist and I do like the Parity cop claim in that respect).