Posted July 01, 2017
So, we found one in you, but should leave you in peace, and go look for the rest? Gotcha.
HijacK: [...] And I don't think it's a lot to ask for people to perhaps look at the play of those partaking in the game, as opposed to just a claim. [...] If you're saying that I'm not looking at others, then you and I are playing in different games.
And saying that it's "just" a claim that's been looked at is downplaying how everything has unfolded
But if you'd like me to look at your play - you're completely ignoring three of the eight players, and taking your frustration out on me because I continue to interact with you.
HijacK: [...] Right, because doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result is totally and 100% from a town place. Let's just agree to disagree. I don't think you're seeing straight here.[...] I'm seeing straight just fine that you're putting words in my mouth. Where did I tell you to do exactly what docbear1975 did? Seriously, for someone priding himself to be smart, do you really expect me to believe that you didn't get what I told you?
HijacK: [...] Since I don't see you vehemently question others about gut feelings, why am I question for my opinion, and I'm not talking about you, necessarily? Double standard? Mall intent? Obtuseness? [...] If you're not talking necessarily about me, why are you addressing this to me, and don't address it to those that it applies to? Am I supposed to answer for others?
HijacK: [...] "There must be a reason" was a dramatization of the fact that there is indeed a reason for which the flip is different. If you assume the narrator is knowledgeable about this fact while re-reading the paragraph, it really sounds different. It's made to emphasize that something is attributed as an explanation. Explanation that was given later in order to capitalize on the reader interest. [...] A whole lot of words, yet still no straight answer to my question. I asked you a simple question, and I'll ask you one last time - what is the reason?
HijacK: [...] If this is so indicative of fishing, why would I make a claim before I inquire about others? [...] Because doing it this way makes your question sound more innocent, hence increases the chance of a successful fishing expedition. Why do you think that dedoporno replied to you the way he did back then?
HijacK: [...] I don't get this one. How is making an observation on your role considered fishing? [...] Such an observation can be made to elicit a response that may reveal information.
HijacK: [...] It would also do wonders if others didn't resort to dirty tactics to push a case and kill the game mood. It was all nice and dandy until some dicks had to be asses about things that pertain to things higher than the game. Alas, it is what it is. The double standards and hypocrisy of people, I guess, will never cease to amaze me. [...] I understand that you're frustrated, offended, perhaps even hurt, but coming back with another attempt to turn our in-game exchanges into a discussion about human behaviour, warrants another comment that you're deflecting and dodging, and going for another AtE.
I don't quite see what reaction you expect from me. If you're so unhappy being in the game, perhaps we should lynch you sooner than later and put you out of your misery. This is out-of-game, and I don't mean it sarcastically.
HijacK: [...] Multiple kills per role is not something I had entertained. Perhaps it has merit, but the numbers barely change even in this case. [...] That's not what I meant, as evidenced by the cases I laid out, i.e. they were not separate/independent points.
But thanks for answering. Also see my follow up question below, if you'd like to give input.
dedoporno: I actually read this in the same way. It seems that RW is very deliberate in the flavor, so I'm inclined to believe that the crime-scenes are supposed to provide some information. Drealmer is the key element here. Unless he has been framed in some way and he is really Wyrm's killer I think that we are supposed to look at who is where and with whom - hence 3 killers. Until RW made that clarification I was a lot more ready to see bler's kill as yog's doing. Cheers.
Do you think that one or more of Bookwyrm627, bler144 and yogsloth tried but for whatever reason failed, or that they didn't attempt to kill anyone? I could see the latter as likely for the first two, depending on what else comes to light about them, but I'm having a bit of a hard time seeing yogsloth passing a chance to kill someone.
dedoporno: [...] Yog coming up pre-emptively with the idea to claim Death Miller on D1 without realizing/knowing there is a real Death Miller doesn't sound like a joke to you? Only if HijacK's indeed a/the real Death Miller. Do you believe he is?
trentonlf: Flub unvoted and all anyone else has been doing is speculating and not actually voting, and I mean voting on anyone. The game was going nowhere. It'd appear that I'm asking you questions in vain, but I'll give it another shot:
Is the game all about voting and nothing else? Do you see no value in the discussion? In this killers-rich environment, this may be the last chance for some of us.
And not sure why flubbucket unvoting HijacK was so worrying. It takes five to lynch, not every single player, and as cristigale said, more than enough people have expressed one way or the other leaning towards voting him.
I'm not going to be around for much longer. I could vote HijacK now, but I hope that trentonlf will answer my questions before we go to night-phase,though he seems quite reluctant, and I'm not sure it's only because he doesn't want to get NK-ed.
And saying that it's "just" a claim that's been looked at is downplaying how everything has unfolded
But if you'd like me to look at your play - you're completely ignoring three of the eight players, and taking your frustration out on me because I continue to interact with you.
I don't quite see what reaction you expect from me. If you're so unhappy being in the game, perhaps we should lynch you sooner than later and put you out of your misery. This is out-of-game, and I don't mean it sarcastically.
But thanks for answering. Also see my follow up question below, if you'd like to give input.
Do you think that one or more of Bookwyrm627, bler144 and yogsloth tried but for whatever reason failed, or that they didn't attempt to kill anyone? I could see the latter as likely for the first two, depending on what else comes to light about them, but I'm having a bit of a hard time seeing yogsloth passing a chance to kill someone.
Is the game all about voting and nothing else? Do you see no value in the discussion? In this killers-rich environment, this may be the last chance for some of us.
And not sure why flubbucket unvoting HijacK was so worrying. It takes five to lynch, not every single player, and as cristigale said, more than enough people have expressed one way or the other leaning towards voting him.
I'm not going to be around for much longer. I could vote HijacK now, but I hope that trentonlf will answer my questions before we go to night-phase,though he seems quite reluctant, and I'm not sure it's only because he doesn't want to get NK-ed.
