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HijacK: Inb4 I DAYKILL Krypsyn
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flubbucket: This reminds me of how much Krypsyn loves games with lots of killing roles and triggered events.......perhaps??
We need a Cult game just for him.
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flubbucket: yogsloth is a clever boy. Coming up with Death Miller could well have been a plan he cooked up for mafia claiming just waiting for the moment.
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HijacK: Does this mean I'm a sucker for falling for it, or was I simply the wrong person, at the wrong time, in the wrong place?

Also, I stand corrected. Someone is thinking outside of the box....
You people are making a habit out of having me stand corrected.
The beauty of this game is effective lying.

The first time I witnessed a serial killer win was due mostly to the simplicity of the player's lie. Others were commenting on roles and such and this player simply stated "well I'm just vanilla town." This was perpetuated by other players allowing it to become "fact."

It was glorious.
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flubbucket: The beauty of this game is effective lying.

The first time I witnessed a serial killer win was due mostly to the simplicity of the player's lie. Others were commenting on roles and such and this player simply stated "well I'm just vanilla town." This was perpetuated by other players allowing it to become "fact."

It was glorious.
If I am not mistaken, and I hope I'm not because I've been a lot lately, you're implying that I am quite at fault for letting so much confusion go on because I let Yogy's lie to get perpetuated to the point people took it too seriously, and it should have been up to me to uncover it, regardless of the circumstances in which the lie was "cooked". Is this what you're saying?
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flubbucket: The beauty of this game is effective lying.

The first time I witnessed a serial killer win was due mostly to the simplicity of the player's lie. Others were commenting on roles and such and this player simply stated "well I'm just vanilla town." This was perpetuated by other players allowing it to become "fact."

It was glorious.
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HijacK: If I am not mistaken, and I hope I'm not because I've been a lot lately, you're implying that I am quite at fault for letting so much confusion go on because I let Yogy's lie to get perpetuated to the point people took it too seriously, and it should have been up to me to uncover it, regardless of the circumstances in which the lie was "cooked". Is this what you're saying?
No you are quite mistaken.

YOU LOSER!!! YOU SUCK!!!!111!!1! GIT GUD NOOB TRASH!!!

How is it any one player's responsibility to uncover lies?? All of us are equally obligated to scrape away the obfuscation and get the truth out.
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flubbucket: No you are quite mistaken.

YOU LOSER!!! YOU SUCK!!!!111!!1! GIT GUD NOOB TRASH!!!

How is it any one player's responsibility to uncover lies?? All of us are equally obligated to scrape away the obfuscation and get the truth out.
Yes, but would I be mistaken to say I had the best tools, at least to my knowledge, of uncovering said lie? Furthermore, as Mordin Solus said, it has to be me. Someone else might get it wrong.
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flubbucket: No you are quite mistaken.

YOU LOSER!!! YOU SUCK!!!!111!!1! GIT GUD NOOB TRASH!!!

How is it any one player's responsibility to uncover lies?? All of us are equally obligated to scrape away the obfuscation and get the truth out.
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HijacK: Yes, but would I be mistaken to say I had the best tools, at least to my knowledge, of uncovering said lie? Furthermore, as Mordin Solus said, it has to be me. Someone else might get it wrong.
i have no knowledge of your tool.
Something just struck me... something that I think sealed my fate on this Day, or at least sooner or later.

@Dedo, are you Mafia?

I read you as town the entire game, but the closer we get to the deadline.... hmmmmm..... Could it be?.... Huh...
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HypersomniacLive: Is it just me, or does Sage103082's multi-post case against HijacK rings weird, to say the least?
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dedoporno: Nope.


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Lifthrasil: Oh and something just occurred to me. HijacK said he'd flip 'Muscle'. That doesn't exactly sound like someone who kills using a gun. Which he later added. Also on a side note - we don't get role flips anyhow. Just faction ones.
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dedoporno: We are getting delayed flips that may reveal such information. Like how adalia was revealed to be Divorce Attorney (I think this is an occupation, though) or zeogold was Puzzlemaster (his occupation seems to have been pastry chef but not sure because of the lack of capitalization). Also, there may or may not be a Flavor cop or similar that gathers these overnight.

RW said we are getting alignment flips initially which implies this can/will change eventually.

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HijacK: ~ some unrelated stuff ~
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dedoporno: Roughly 20 around left. How about that plan of yours (I'm still mostly directed towards voting you, by the way, but I'm open to ideas which is why I'm still holding back).

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trentonlf: Yes, but I am not going to give you a list of names. If someone does something that I find to be more scummy than Hijack I will be all over it, but at this time Hijack is who I find to be the scummiest.
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dedoporno: Will you share these before the day ends? In case where you don't wake up in the morning and you are Town wouldn't you like to share your thoughts for next steps to the rest of us?
No list forthcoming right now, and I have my reasons. I'll tell you this, I've had knowledge since Day 1 that Hijack is full of it and no matter how he spins it is a bad guy. Have I been intentionally pushing his buttons the past two game days? Absolutely I have because he is just like drealmer in that he thinks he's the best player in the game and his hubris makes him slip up. I've been laughing my ass off every time I've seen Hijack post some comment with "Dear" in it, and actually found those comments to be condenscending, because I know he's lying and is just trying to win people over. I'll give you two things I know right now.

Yog's was Mafia
Hijack is a bad guy
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trentonlf: I'll tell you this, I've had knowledge since Day 1 that Hijack is full of it and no matter how he spins it is a bad guy.
An 11th hour non-claim claim. Great.

Fuck it, I'll believe you for now, and should you be a liar, lynch you tomorrow.

Vote HijacK.
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HijacK: I mean, I will take the compliment, but I have to ask exactly what led you to this belief. The Bulletproof Berzerker lie? I don't recall having anything else memorable besides that. And to be frank, it looks quite lame in retrospect. Trent's role title at the time influenced me, but someone more experienced could have seen right through it.
I can't cite much more from memory, but during the years (it's been years, right?) this default massive mistrust has accumulated. Just like we do lists in the games I have similar lists in my mind that evolve during our games and I have put some people in the list "Don't believe that motherfucker if you don't have firsthand info about them or on the edge of losing and the only possibility to win is the high-risk/high-reward leap of faith type of play". So yeah, if you wish, after this game is over we can take a walk down memory lane and remember the good old times.


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HijacK: Then what makes you bank on my lynch as the greatest chance of success? What makes other candidates worse, despite their game play?
Like I said, there is way too much about you that worries me and since there isn't a better alternative I prefer to have one question mark less. And yours is too big to ignore for one more day.


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HijacK: Yet you are not banking on the fact that this question mark may be answered in the near future. Here I shall ask, if our lists are so similar, albeit with a change of order, why me? What's making me stand out so much besides my role? If someone says my request for a grace period, I swear to Allah I will take the plane to wherever they live and bitch slap them.
You yourself stated that said future is quite dark. And it may be even darker than what we think so I can't count on having that much time. I was banking on N1 (for someone to confirm your claim or... well... yog :)). With the risk of sounding LAMIST I don't think it will be too long before we continue our discussion in the dead thread.


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HijacK: This is such a huge thing to bet on. Let me see if I understand this correctly. You suspect the same people of what I assume are almost the same reasons of being scum and playing as a team. You can definitely tell that they are not on my side, and you don't even know for a fact what the game mechanics are. It's a role madness games where 3 unaccounted for killers are loose, and you're about to lynch the only claimed protective role out of 9 remaining players.
Similar list, some similar observations but unlike you I don't think team effort is involved. I see it as more probable that there are Neutral forces somewhere there. And again, I prefer tackling the immediate potential for problems instead of worrying about it one more night. I don't know what else to say. If someone said that they have rock-solid information that Sage is scum - sure, I'll give it a try but it's not happening unfortunately.


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HijacK: Here's what I propose to you. Since I can't protect a NK targeted at me and if I am alive and we are both right, I'm a key target to eliminate. If we are right, the scum team is in danger. Guess who needs to be NK'd. And guess how that will go. Do the math. What result do you get?
And what if 3-4-5-6-7-72163872131 people are dead in the morning and you are still here?



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flubbucket: yogsloth is a clever boy. Coming up with Death Miller could well have been a plan he cooked up for mafia claiming just waiting for the moment.
You are joking, right?


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flubbucket: I think it's possible. While PGO is a traditionally town role, a singular (player) mafia faction would work.
Didn't RW practically confirm Wyrm wasn't a PGO?


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HijacK: @Dedo, are you Mafia?
I'm still at work, so I don't have a meme ready for this. The proper answer to this is and always will be "Bitch, I might be".

But unfortunately I'm not. And I say unfortunately cause I don't think Town is getting this one the way things seem to be.


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trentonlf: Yog's was Mafia
Hijack is a bad guy
Ah... I have to start reading first and posting later.

I'm not sure if asking how you know that is correct. You are probably dead if it's true anyway, but maybe not. I have to finish work to look at this more. Can't we not end the day for a couple of hours more, please?
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flubbucket: i have no knowledge of your tool.
But I do wonder about other knowledge you might have. Why did you believe HijacK his claim? You said it's a feeling in your diaper. Did you, by now, have a look at the content of those diapers and can tell us more? Or in other words: are you just trying to be useless again, or do you have any actual reason that makes you believe HijacK is town? If it's the latter, please share.
OK, I'm home.


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trentonlf: Yog's was Mafia
Do you also have first-hand information on this or is this based on the flip we got? If it's first-hand how did you get it or better yet - when?
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HypersomniacLive: And how does docbear1975 flipping with no quotation marks upon her lynch fit in all this?
NO actions. This was also just a thought I had, a possibility.

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Sage103082: [...] You do not want us lynching you without giving the time to explain/ role claim. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Since when do we not want, let alone not allow, someone on the chopping block to explain their claim and defend themselves? And what's with the rush lynching him already? At the time that you made this post, the Day was still young; why cut it short and stifle any and all discussions? I'm having a hard time seeing this come from a town mindset.
I had no problem with giving hijack time to explain. My issues was that he had time to post other things but not his claim. I am not sure how by my posting my thoughts and things I have found off about hijack to be rush alynch but ok.

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HypersomniacLive: Did you miss the explanations given regarding the role of an actual Road Captain? It was me who asked, and bler144 that provided it.
No I did not miss it. However, Just because a person pointed out what google says it is, does not make it impossible that the MOD is using it in a way that he sees fit.


I have no doubt Hijack is lying.

Vote Hijack
It seems that Hijack is at L-1. With the latest that lynch is happening for sure.

I'm around in the next few hours so I will wait for Trent if he wants to answer or share something else or for others if there are additional discussions to be had and if someone doesn't do it first I will hammer.
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dedoporno: I'm still at work, so I don't have a meme ready for this. The proper answer to this is and always will be "Bitch, I might be".
Well, if you're lying, I'm fairly certain I figured out your last teammate. And if you indeed managed to pull a hoax as big as I think you did, then you deserve to win.