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Yeah I don't like how this is going with Hijack at all.

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*awaits Hijack's cries of how stupid I am*
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yogsloth: Neutral bulletproof berserker

Lol, thank you bler
Hey, maybe it sounds ridiculous, but it was good enough for a victory. Looking back, it does sound a bit crazy, but I was quite proud of pulling that right after Quad missed the chance of a perfect win. In retrospect, it was one of my proudest achievements, just below Daykilling Krypsyn. My demeanor was by far not the best, or even good. It was a certain kind of vulgar aggressiveness that you see in street punks, but even with that, I managed to gain a W, and I was happy. :)
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Lifthrasil: ...............

Finally a question to all: what do you think? Should we go for one of the two claimed killing roles to reduce the number of night-kills? Especially since at least one of them might be lying? Or do we go for the player that plays scummiest and buy the claims for now, until the slew of power roles hat a shot at them at night?
I won't vote for yogsloth at this time.

HijacK ..... I dunno.
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trentonlf: snip snip snip
No, I do not think that you are stupid. I do not condone the use of such words. I just think that you may be in cahoots with Lift.

If I get lynched, I urge town to take a closer look at trent and Lift. Their play this game has been suspect, and trent has once again avoided my question and that is because he knows I am in the right. :)
Would I be a hypocrite if I said I don't believe Hijack's Miller claim

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Hey Hijack, just to confirm, your wincon is exactly Town's right? But you flip mafia? What happens if you are copped?
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trentonlf: snip snip snip
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HijacK: No, I do not think that you are stupid. I do not condone the use of such words. I just think that you may be in cahoots with Lift.

If I get lynched, I urge town to take a closer look at trent and Lift. Their play this game has been suspect, and trent has once again avoided my question and that is because he knows I am in the right. :)
And again as I've already said I'm not ignoring your question, I don't believe your claim. So as I don't believe your claim why would I even speculate about it?
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yogsloth: Hey Hijack, just to confirm, your wincon is exactly Town's right? But you flip mafia? What happens if you are copped?
It says that I am detected as Mafia.
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trentonlf: And again as I've already said I'm not ignoring your question, I don't believe your claim. So as I don't believe your claim why would I even speculate about it?
Who said anything about speculation, dear trent? I asked you one simple question. You are in my shoes, you read yogy's claim. What do you do? As simple as that. I don't care about your game analysis or anything of the sorts. A simple answer. Do you wait? And if yes, until when?

The problem here is that by avoiding my question and OMGUS voting me after a suspect argument from Lift you are just indirectly confirming that I was right to do what I did and I will be right to do what I will pretty soon. Your cooperation is always welcome, alas you do not seem to care to provide any. :)

By saying that you are not ignoring my question doesn't mean you are right if you are in fact ignoring my question and not answering. Do you see how this works? A question requires an answer. You do not provide one. Why is that? Observational data provides me with a solid amount of proof to say that town trent doesn't play like that. ;)

@yogy

Win condition is the same as town, yes. And yes, I flip Mafia. Just to add clarity.
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Bookwyrm627: ...............

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cristigale: I was perusing a mafiascum game and realized your account has posted there quite a bit. So I a did a search on your posts. You did not post Sunday or today (Monday). However, on the previous days:
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Bookwyrm627: Can you provide a link (and maybe a short instruction list to get the results) as proof? Because I will conclude the boop out of this if it is true.

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I missed this post from cristigale.......well done with the sleuthing.

I'm not really conflicted with the ethics of it all and will most likely move my vote unless there is something profound from GammaEmerald forthcoming.

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docbear1975: ..............

Oh, dear, it looks like my post from yesterday just ended up being a messy mass of quotes. Even with AF I was afraid I’d muck things up. It was an attempt to answer questions addressed to me.

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This forum's software is not friendly toward forum mafia

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dedoporno: ...................
I believe having the Millers (if they really are that) has to have some counter-play to prove them innocent or condemn them. Otherwise the game won't be just role-madness but also broken (probably, I can't even start to imagine in what other ways the envelope is being pushed). I, personally, prefer to stay where I am at the moment, since I believe it's among the better options unless something more important happens (if we eventually get close enough to actual lynch and docbear makes a claim we might have to reconsider, who knows what will happen). I'd also like to see what happens during the Night and get back to HijacK and Yog Tomorrow (if I'm still here, Flub!!) and continue from there.

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My thoughts regarding The Millers are we will have to work togther pooling information. Perhaps we have certain investigative roles which give a partial picture. When coupled with other partial bits we can narrow down the field of suspects.

This would be compiled along the way.

I'm also not talking roles but a collaborative effort.
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HypersomniacLive: Disclaimer: I had a lot of the replies to his bler144's posts typed out yesterday before yogsloth's claim.

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bler144: [...] I make no such pretense - I only promise to make it worth their while, and usually that works out. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Question is, does it turn out to be worth their while in the end?


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bler144: [...] Not going for a derp clear, but I responded to that post and still missed that detail. Got too excited about making culturally relevant jokes from 2010. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: What is a derp clear?

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bler144: [...] Need to go back and look at something in that light. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Colour me curious. Did you go back and look? Anything you'd like/can share? Or have you already touched on it, and I didn't make the connection?

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bler144: [...] Had kinda missed this question since you didn't actually ask me as much as say you would ask me. Someday. Somewhere. [...].
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HypersomniacLive: Did I say I'd ask you many questions? I don't recall doing that. Can you point me to where I said so?
In reverse order,
5) I was simply responding to you saying you were going to ask me something in response to doc instead of directly asking me. j

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HypersomniacLive: bler144 commented on the case of it being a town-docbear1975 wagon, and he's quite right. I'll ask what do we get if it's a scum-docbear1975 wagon.
4) I haven't had time, but the game has moved in such a different direction I'm not sure how relevant it is anyway. N1 research, perhaps.

3) Derp clear is saying something so stupid it obviously couldn't come from scum. In that case it was my statement of being unaware they definitely had twilight chat and not having taken that into account in my reads until you pointed out RW had explicitly said they would. Whereas aligned scum, at least, would have typically known.

So the 'not going for derp clear' means I'm not saying I was unaware for town points, just to admit the derp that I'd missed it, and that my reads going forward might shift accordingly.

2) Well, it depends. Are you asking me from 5-10-15 years ago who can confirm with confidence, or the me from now who must rely on memory of such things?

1) I miscounted. But since we're here I didn't follow the "You seem to not read it the same way?" Without going back to look, how do my latest posts relate? Talking about town-reading Drealmer?

Yeah, a fair point if that's what you mean. I'd forgotten about that exchange, though I think it's kinda moot unless/until Lift flips scum.

Not asking for town cred, but as a practice I don't take notes during games, and tend to rely on memory and being actively involved 18 hours a day and constantly churning through my own thoughts (at risk of seeming an egoist in most games I re-read my own posts to remember WTH I was thinking through various stages of the game)

Being here 3-4 hours a day but still trying to engage with whatever new content is here I'm really just barely catching up most days, though still trying to be engaged and have some fun with it.


As for the "Not sure I follow" - quite ironically I was dropping it at that moment b/c I didn't think I could do it justice without coming across as a dick. Good times.
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trentonlf: And again as I've already said I'm not ignoring your question, I don't believe your claim. So as I don't believe your claim why would I even speculate about it?
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HijacK: Who said anything about speculation, dear trent? I asked you one simple question. You are in my shoes, you read yogy's claim. What do you do? As simple as that. I don't care about your game analysis or anything of the sorts. A simple answer. Do you wait? And if yes, until when?

The problem here is that by avoiding my question and OMGUS voting me after a suspect argument from Lift you are just indirectly confirming that I was right to do what I did and I will be right to do what I will pretty soon. Your cooperation is always welcome, alas you do not seem to care to provide any. :)

By saying that you are not ignoring my question doesn't mean you are right if you are in fact ignoring my question and not answering. Do you see how this works? A question requires an answer. You do not provide one. Why is that? Observational data provides me with a solid amount of proof to say that town trent doesn't play like that. ;)

@yogy

Win condition is the same as town, yes. And yes, I flip Mafia. Just to add clarity.
No it's not a simple question. It's a question that the only answer is I believe your claim and give you validation, but I don't believe your claim so do you see how this works?
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trentonlf: do you see how this works?
Yes, I see very clearly. You're avoiding my question because you know I was right to do what I did in my condition and you can't refute it since it was the only thing a good townie would do.
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HijacK: Hmmm. I was expecting a certain degree of outrage following a second claim, but it appears to me that some individuals are not properly grasping the intensity of the matter. Given these circumstances, I am entertaining the idea of a full role claim in order to better assist everyone to scum hunting. I thought that by preventing too much information out of the box I am doing us a favor, but scum are either outsmarting us, or are good at pressuring the inadequate subject.

What do you think, good sir and madams? Should I role claim in entirety? I am quite content with doing it at this point. I see people pointing fingers, yet I don't understand why, or think even they understand why. I am of belief that this will help us in the long run. :)
Your decision.

Baiting won't garner you any town cred.
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bler144: snip
Greetings, bler! I do not mean to be rude, but can we get some participation from you that is relevant to the subject matter discussed in this moment? I would like to hear your thoughts on it. :)
I see how this will go, and I don't like it at all. So I'll just say Hijack is absolutely right and the only think that can be done is lynching me and if that seems to not be happening then please dear God someone kill me tonight because I want no part of where this is going.

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