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HypersomniacLive: On a (more?) serious note, yeah, it's extremely difficult to play live when the vast majority of players reside on the other side of the pond.
Fun note-

I was in a game on MU I subbed into a few weeks ago where the final players left were in:

Western USA
Eastern USA
Singapore
England
Germany

And they still got it done with a 36-hour Day phase.
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Lifthrasil: snip
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HijacK: Why are you ignoring me?
I am so sorry! I'll append the list:

Hijack: totally scum for being Hijack!

...JK, actually I don't know yet what to make of you. You are way more mellow, sensible and mature than you used to be. I like the new Hijack. I just don't know in which camp to place you. Not yet at least.
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yogsloth: Fun note-

I was in a game on MU I subbed into a few weeks ago where the final players left were in:

Western USA
Eastern USA
Singapore
England
Germany

And they still got it done with a 36-hour Day phase.
You mean that all managed to be on at the same hours without one or more getting out of their way to do it? If so, that was a pretty unique composition of players, or if it's the norm on MU, I'd really like the recipe (of success) for that.

I rarely have time to peek in here before my late afternoon hours, and then most of you are not aorund. When you peeps show up after your 18:00-19:00, that's already well past my midnight, which means I usually have a couple of hours at best before calling it a night..On top of that, I have a sleeping disorder, so if/when sleep calls at a reasonable time of the late evening/early night, I won't pass on it just to be here. If I'm "naturally" awake, yes, I'll make an effort to be here.
Regarding EOD specifically, if it's sometime up to my 02:00-03:00 and everything else in the physical world permitting, I will make an effort to be present, but if it's during my very early morning hours, chances are that I will be asleep, and I won't set an alarm clock just to be here for it.

Sorry if anyone thinks that this is unreasonable of me. Well, not really sorry.

Just to be clear, I'm not whining, or asking anyone to adjust the game to my schedule/timezone, just saying that there are difficulties/obstacles that are objectively hard to surmount, something that I hope the rest of you understand and don't/won't hold against me.


Got to run for a bit, then back to catching up.
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HypersomniacLive: You mean that all managed to be on at the same hours without one or more getting out of their way to do it? If so, that was a pretty unique composition of players, or if it's the norm on MU, I'd really like the recipe (of success) for that.
Well, no it was kind of ugly.

If you're curious, that Day started here.

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I'm here for another couple of hours.

I'm comfortable just tabling the Lift/drealmer/HSL reads for now and let you guys test docbear when/if she returns.

My basic plan is to do my best to check in via mobile (which I hate, but at least I should be able to post something) over the next few days and then do my thing on Thursday when I get back. Hopefully we're still going at that point.
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HypersomniacLive: Sorry if anyone thinks that this is unreasonable of me. Well, not really sorry.
You'll hear zero complaint from me on this. I've been in a discussion like this once before, and my opinion hasn't changed any since last time.
The following doesn't really have to do with the narrative context of the game:

@mod, is Gamma's non-playing actually getting a free pass? The game has been on for about 5 days now and his second and last post has been 3 days ago.

At this point I don't even care about his alignment, this behavior can't be acceptable. The game has been live longer without his participation than with it.


@HSL, I thought RW said that the day would be over around 10:30 EDT which for some reason I took as AM. That was about 2.5 hours ago. Isn't that OK for you? Or is it PM? In which case it's also not good for me. I can stay up till 2AM my time without too much problems, but 5?
Yeah, no...
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RWarehall: Tentative deadline on Thursday night 10:30-ish Eastern Daylight Time.
Oh geez I missed this

That's not a lot of time after I get back. :(

Do I role claim now and let you all lol while I'm gone? Dangit.
Current votes:
drealmer7 - trentonlf; flubbucket
Lifthrasil - drealmer7
docbear1975 - yogsloth; dedoporno
HypersomniacLive - Lifthrasil

Not voting: GammaEmerald; HypersomniacLive; bler144; HijacK; docbear1975; Sage103082; Bookwyrm627; cristigale

Majority has not been reached.

As to the deadline, I'm all for you deciding early! I wouldn't worry about the end time, but worry about finishing up before too many people have to go. I mention 10:30-ish, as that is when I'll likely get home to be able to close the thread. If the vote is close, I'm not going to immediately cut it off, but you are risking how many players may still be around.

I'm not greatly opposed to pushing it back one more day to Friday, but if that causes problems for anyone else, that would hardly be a help. But even extending it to Friday noon - 1 PM is plausible as I leave for work around 1:30 PM. If Friday is a problem for anyone, let it be known.

As to Gamma, 3 days includes most of the weekend, but should we not hear from him by the time I get home from work, I'll prod him.
Post edited June 19, 2017 by RWarehall
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RWarehall: Tentative deadline on Thursday night 10:30-ish Eastern Daylight Time.
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yogsloth: Oh geez I missed this

That's not a lot of time after I get back. :(

Do I role claim now and let you all lol while I'm gone? Dangit.
If you can 100% guarantee a claim by you does not hurt town in anyway or break the game then get it out and over with. I will not be overly happy about it, but I have you as a pretty solid town lean and will trust you. Now that's just my opinion on the matter.


Please don't make this a mass claim!!
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bler144: Elaborate. What specifically about it, iyo, is curious?

Is dedo's statement itself more curious, or trent's response? Is that !town-trent doing his thing, or !scum-trent mailing in his standard response channel?

At first blush, dedo's statement and trent's reply seems to imply teamwork. Perhaps I'm rivalling drealmer in snapping the rubber band of logic until it snaps. But the whole exchange just seems like trent is warning dedo.

You think !scum-HSL sells out to lynch you D1 when Drealmer is already multi-voted? What in heavens is the upside for him in that scenario? If !town-you flips, he's drawn attention he didn't need (investigatory or otherwise); if you don't get lynched, he's got your attention for what benefit?

I would agree your post is not a compelling prompt for flub to vote the way !scum-Lift might want.

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Spent half the evening cooking (even made some Bulgarian food - though technically the Hungarian version) and not sure I'm caught up and well past my self-imposed clock-out time so I can keep the game as just a game, and I think I lost focus half an hour ago.

Few final notes:
Going to sit on my vote after all. If I were voting right now it would probably be Lift, but something odd is happening here, and I changed my mind more than once while catching up, and even then most posts only got the once-over.

Not opposed to a doc vote, however...this feels eerily town-in-Maine familiar. Drealmer, what are your thoughts on Doc?

I see that train going all the way to claim, for better or worse, and ultimately living or dying on the strength of that claim in more ways than one. If !town-doc, I don't know what this wagon gives us precisely b/c it would be very easy to vote one's way onto.

Dedo's statement about his vote is intriguing as an argument to push that along anyway, however. Tempting.

Could elaborate, but not sure how to do so without it coming across (personally) badly.

Oddly, I think yogs is town but don't agree with many of his analytical points - though not 100% sure he believes his own case either. POE, certainly. Still think Drealmer is town.

Not sure on HSL but agree with much. He's moved fairly securely over to the safe side of the D1 ledger.

I assume RW has some concept for dealing with Gamma's extended absence. Will leave that alone.

Brain long-since shut off. I gotta not do these late nights.
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bler144: Elaborate. What specifically about it, iyo, is curious?

Is dedo's statement itself more curious, or trent's response? Is that !town-trent doing his thing, or !scum-trent mailing in his standard response channel?

You think !scum-HSL sells out to lynch you D1 when Drealmer is already multi-voted? What in heavens is the upside for him in that scenario? If !town-you flips, he's drawn attention he didn't need (investigatory or otherwise); if you don't get lynched, he's got your attention for what benefit?

I would agree your post is not a compelling prompt for flub to vote the way !scum-Lift might want.

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Spent half the evening cooking (even made some Bulgarian food - though technically the Hungarian version) and not sure I'm caught up and well past my self-imposed clock-out time so I can keep the game as just a game, and I think I lost focus half an hour ago.

Few final notes:
Going to sit on my vote after all. If I were voting right now it would probably be Lift, but something odd is happening here, and I changed my mind more than once while catching up, and even then most posts only got the once-over.

Not opposed to a doc vote, however...this feels eerily town-in-Maine familiar. Drealmer, what are your thoughts on Doc?

I see that train going all the way to claim, for better or worse, and ultimately living or dying on the strength of that claim in more ways than one. If !town-doc, I don't know what this wagon gives us precisely b/c it would be very easy to vote one's way onto.

Dedo's statement about his vote is intriguing as an argument to push that along anyway, however. Tempting.

Could elaborate, but not sure how to do so without it coming across (personally) badly.

Oddly, I think yogs is town but don't agree with many of his analytical points - though not 100% sure he believes his own case either. POE, certainly. Still think Drealmer is town.

Not sure on HSL but agree with much. He's moved fairly securely over to the safe side of the D1 ledger.

I assume RW has some concept for dealing with Gamma's extended absence. Will leave that alone.

Brain long-since shut off. I gotta not do these late nights.
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bler144: Elaborate. What specifically about it, iyo, is curious?

Is dedo's statement itself more curious, or trent's response? Is that !town-trent doing his thing, or !scum-trent mailing in his standard response channel?

You think !scum-HSL sells out to lynch you D1 when Drealmer is already multi-voted? What in heavens is the upside for him in that scenario? If !town-you flips, he's drawn attention he didn't need (investigatory or otherwise); if you don't get lynched, he's got your attention for what benefit?

I would agree your post is not a compelling prompt for flub to vote the way !scum-Lift might want.

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Spent half the evening cooking (even made some Bulgarian food - though technically the Hungarian version) and not sure I'm caught up and well past my self-imposed clock-out time so I can keep the game as just a game, and I think I lost focus half an hour ago.

Few final notes:
Going to sit on my vote after all. If I were voting right now it would probably be Lift, but something odd is happening here, and I changed my mind more than once while catching up, and even then most posts only got the once-over.

Not opposed to a doc vote, however...this feels eerily town-in-Maine familiar. Drealmer, what are your thoughts on Doc?

I see that train going all the way to claim, for better or worse, and ultimately living or dying on the strength of that claim in more ways than one. If !town-doc, I don't know what this wagon gives us precisely b/c it would be very easy to vote one's way onto.

Dedo's statement about his vote is intriguing as an argument to push that along anyway, however. Tempting.

Could elaborate, but not sure how to do so without it coming across (personally) badly.

Oddly, I think yogs is town but don't agree with many of his analytical points - though not 100% sure he believes his own case either. POE, certainly. Still think Drealmer is town.

Not sure on HSL but agree with much. He's moved fairly securely over to the safe side of the D1 ledger.

I assume RW has some concept for dealing with Gamma's extended absence. Will leave that alone.

Brain long-since shut off. I gotta not do these late nights.
Was there supposed to be something that is not a quote in that wall of text? Maybe you could use a bump?
lol
I'll probably be available around Thursday 10:30 PM EST, but I won't be available for a multi-hour block preceding that deadline. The Friday noon deadline is fine for me.

I'm assuming Docbear had some sort of copy/paste error; looks like a triplet of the same post by Bler. I mean, Bler's posts are pretty amazing, and maybe that's her way of indicating massive agreement? ;)
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trentonlf: Docbear is middle of the road for me at the moment.
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dedoporno: I see. What do you think about Gamma then? And cristi?

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docbear1975: My top suspects are still drealmer and lift. Yogs is my neutral category
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dedoporno: Right. Are they suspect enough to act upon it? If yes who would be the priority pick and why?
As for my other question regarding yog's vote (and now mine) on you - do you intend to keep ignoring them?
Yogs feels he's made a good case as in he and you feels I am a wishy-washy lurker. I understand the attiude regarding lurkers and basically agree. I'm trying not to lurk and acutally contribute something useful. If my response hastens my lynch, then so be it. I'm sorry, but that's all I've got right now.
Just got back in, saw I have a forum reply flag, so let's get the latest out of the way before continuing with my catching up.


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yogsloth: Well, no it was kind of ugly. [...]
Heh, thought so. I saved the link for a lazy Sunday afternoon read, cheers.



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dedoporno: [...]

@HSL, I thought RW said that the day would be over around 10:30 EDT which for some reason I took as AM. That was about 2.5 hours ago. Isn't that OK for you? Or is it PM? In which case it's also not good for me. I can stay up till 2AM my time without too much problems, but 5?
Yeah, no...
I guess you already checked, but he said Thursday night 10:30 EDT (because he works second shift), so yeah, that's like 04:30 -05:30 for us Europeans.


I see RWarehall offered a compromise. If deadline is set for Friday, June 23, 13:00 EDT, it would work well for me, I guess for dedoporno and Lifthrasil too, but I have no idea if it would for our fellow US players, as that's a bit early in their day-time.

Either way, I'll try to make the best out of whatever the majority decides.



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yogsloth: [...] Do I role claim now and let you all lol while I'm gone? Dangit.
So long as it doesn't put us in any sort of disadvantage, handle it whatever way you think. Would a shift of the deadline change anything for you?



@mod

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RWarehall: [...] As to Gamma, 3 days includes most of the weekend, but should we not hear from him by the time I get home from work, I'll prod him.
This whole GammaEmerald_computer_issues situation gives me quite the déjà vu - going by memory here, in game #46, he also disappeared for days, then popped in to say he had computer issues, never to return again. Later in the mafia-admin thread, it turned out that that post was supposed to be a heads up to everyone, the mod included, that he couldn't participate anymore (I remember cristigale was quite surprised by this).

Perhaps check if this isn't the case again when you prod him?