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General discussionForum Mafia #49 - Retirement isn't so Peaceful(1018 posts)(1018 posts)
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Posted June 18, 2017
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yogsloth: [...] Flub is not the truculent bastard he usually is as Scum. I probably would have expected him to just stick that vote on me and leave it if he were... so, early Town read there.[...]
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HypersomniacLive: Why? You yourself said that drealmer7 is "sorta Day 1 lunch menu at all times".
Yeah, but I specifically am flub’s Day 1 lunch menu item.

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yogsloth: [...] I would be utterly stunned if Lift and drealmer are w/w and doing this for theater. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Me too, but I'm not convinced it's v/v either. Are you?
Convinced – no. Gut read it’s likely? Yes.

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yogsloth: Did not expect this.

I really don't think scum!lift unvotes town!drealmer here. drealmer is sorta Day 1 lunch menu at all times.
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HypersomniacLive: I invite you to ISO Lifthrasil of game #46. I'm starting to get a tad of a déjà vu, but with an extra touch of usual town-Lifthrasil; may be that "I'm trying to improve' he mentioned, or scum-chat during Twilight paying off.
Ahhh, not sure I have the desire or inclination lol. But I’ll check it out later.

...

dang I lost track of my quote tags, posting this and hoping it works
Posted June 18, 2017
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flubbucket: [...] Calling Lifthrasil "over-zealous scum" for simply pressuring you is all I need for now.

Vote: dreamler7
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HypersomniacLive: Can you point out Lifthrasil's posts where he specifically pressured drealmer7?
Here
Posted June 18, 2017
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trentonlf: Ok what is v/v?
The opposite of w/w - village/village, aka townie/townie.



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flubbucket: ~ ping ~
Poke.
Posted June 18, 2017
Staaahp
Posted June 18, 2017
OK so scum Lift voted and then unvoted Town drealmer in Game 46

lmao

That is pretty good

OK, so does that happen again? Like exactly that way twice?

Because by god that sounds like something I would do
Posted June 18, 2017
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yogsloth: Yeah, but I specifically am flub’s Day 1 lunch menu item. [...]
Are you sure you're not confusing him with scum-JMich?

Either way, if both you and drealmer7 are town, would it make all that much difference to scum-flubbucket? Past experience says that he gladly took the chance to lynch drealmer7 on D1.


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yogsloth: [...] Convinced – no. Gut read it’s likely? Yes. [...]
Can you elaborate?


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yogsloth: [...] Ahhh, not sure I have the desire or inclination lol. But I’ll check it out later. [...]
Understandable. A quick way is to ISO him, then do a search for "drealmer" within the ISO. I'd be interested to hear if you see what I mean.

*refreshes thread*


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yogsloth: OK so scum Lift voted and then unvoted Town drealmer in Game 46

lmao

That is pretty good

OK, so does that happen again? Like exactly that way twice?

Because by god that sounds like something I would do
It's not just the voting, for me. It's the way he argues with/about drealmer7.



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flubbucket: <a href="http://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_49_retirement_isnt_so_peaceful/post167" class="link_arrow"></a></div> [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_49_retirement_isnt_so_peaceful/post144]No (end of post).

Besides, drealmer7 had yet to read that post when we called Lifthrasil "over -zealous scum".

Also, did drealmer7 actually call Lifthrasil "over-zealous scum" for simply pressuring him? The way I read that part of drealmer7's post #146, he called Lifthrasil that for the bit he quoted from the latter's post #98.
Posted June 18, 2017
Current votes:
flubbucket - Bookwyrm627
HijacK - cristigale
drealmer7 - trentonlf; flubbucket
Lifthrasil - drealmer7

Not voting: GammaEmerald; HypersomniacLive; dedoporno; bler144; yogsloth; HijacK; docbear1975; Sage103082; Lifthrasil

Majority has not been reached.

Note: Mafia does not have a Daychat (as is the forum norm)
Posted June 18, 2017
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HypersomniacLive: Can you elaborate?
Just accrued experience in watching Day 1 v-on-v violence.

These two personalities in particular seem inclined to that type of thing

Probably moreso now that I glanced at game 46.

Can you elaborate on your read of how that game compares to this one?
Posted June 18, 2017
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trentonlf: Also, drealmer this comment "gamma are you ever going to be scum in a game with me again? (we've been in like 10 games together and he's been scum once?)" sure sounds like you are lamenting the fact that you are scum this game and gamma is not with you.

Vote drealmer
it really sounds like that? and why would I be openly sounding like that as scum? that's not at all what it is, I'm simply trying to get some response from gamma so I can start to read him

that is quite a stretch, and you even vote me off of it? highly suspect

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Lifthrasil: ... since he again just takes something in a (probably intentionally) wrong context...
I never try to take something intentionally wrong, all I'm doing is trying to understand (and scumhunt.) You trying to paint me as doing such (without even addressing it like "yo, d, it feels like you're intentionally taking this wrong, and the only way that makes sense is if you're scum.") So how much do you actually think I'm intentionally taking it wrong? Again it feels like you're just trying to paint me as scum.

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Lifthrasil: ... is something that gives a player like drealmer somethin to latch on to. He doesn't care that after the experience of the last game my worry is a very valid one. He just cares to find anything he can attack. But I am somewhat surprised, that you tag along. I thought you were more perceptice that that and could recognize a player-worry as such.
where have I "latched on" to it? It struck me, I noted it, there was some apparent misunderstanding about it, I addressed it. You're the one who seems to be latching on if anyone is.

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trentonlf: Vote drealmer
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Lifthrasil: You might want to bold that.
you obviously want him to bold that - it kind of feels like you started the game set to paint me as scum and get me lynched

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drealmer7: gamma are you ever going to be scum in a game with me again? (we've been in like 10 games together and he's been scum once?)
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Sage103082: Do you know something we don't, as in if gamma is or is not scum this game? How would you know he is not scum this game making him scum twice during your games together? The only ones that know who is scum and who is not scum is scum.
You could say that I meant it as I know im not scum but he maybe and I know who I am so I can say I not scum so we cant be scum together this game but then you follow it up with the amount of games played together and mention he has only pulled scum in one mutual game. /eye brows raised here, big time.

TL:DR ;To me this says: Im scum and your not, are you ever going to be scum with me again. Then we have been in 10 game and gamma has only been scum once. And I know he cant be scum now because I know who scum is.
Uhhh, what? well first let me simply answer the straightforward question:

No, I don't know if gamma is or is not scum this game. That is why I ask him the question (to get his response, which is obviously going to be 'no', but it is HOW he says the no that I'm looking for.)

And then you go on to act as if I am saying I do know if he is scum or not? it really seems like you're doing logical cartwheels to try and make something I asked suspicious when all it is is a simple question to gamma to get a response from him - also, gamma and I have never been scum with gamma. I look forward to the day though!

if it were as you say, why would I say any of it like that if I were scum? are you really suggesting I'm sitting here going "hey all I'm scum and gamma is not! DAMNIT!" - hence my "uhhh, what?" - I just don't quite get what this post of yours is all about other than potentially trying to make me look like scum. pings for you

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Sage103082: To me I can not see how being ok with throwing around votes on someone who did not have the chance to post at all is not a good thing. And could possibly lead to a wagon and quick lynch. And that would be very bad for us. We could lose an important role.
This (and the rest that has be excised) sounds very LAMISTy - 'oh no I'm concerned about a fast wagon/quick lynch - BAAAAD' and you go on to explain the obviousnesses of possibilities ad-nauseum - when it really wasn't THAT big of a threat to happen, at all.

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bler144: Two ways you can tell I'm not mafia:
1) My posts have typos- when I'm scum I obsess over every post for content/tone, and here while it's not stream of consciousness, I'm not really investing in it. I said my food thing was intentional when it was unintentional, and one of the sentences in my last post clearly has the wrong words in the wrong places ("talk them everyone it ") that I would have caught it I were actually proof-reading at all.
2) Life is literally a shitshow right now. If I had rolled scum I'd either be lurking or I'd have come out the door self-voting so my teammates could at least not go down trying to defend my complete not trying. I literally could not handle any more stress than I already have going on.
1.) of course with your self-awareness of this this point becomes moot as you could be not correcting your typos / poring over your wordchoice/phrasings because 'ohhh, this is a scumtell of mine let me try and turn it into a towntell as scum!"

2.) *hug* *passes bong* - hope things chillax for you, dude!

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trentonlf: Is no one else seeing that comment drealmer made as odd?

"gamma are you ever going to be scum in a game with me again? (we've been in like 10 games together and he's been scum once?)"
actually, now that you've re-iterated this combined with sage's similar issue I think maybe it's at least partially a misunderstanding? I think you're thinking I'm saying "scum with me" instead of "game with me" - the object phrase is crucial here and the 'again' is reiterative of the point, since we've never been scum together - I've amended my above response to sage accordingly to try and clarify the issue if that is indeed the issue

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bler144: On the 2nd point, I agree it was curiously fervent for that point in the game. Like Lift distilled to his Lift-iest essence (which seems to me to be a pattern so far). Also agree with cristi (perhaps putting words in her mouth) that you were curiously fervent about Lift's curiously ferventinity.
I love this

bler for retirement community president - do you need a campaign manager? drealmer posts a relevant youtube link OMG

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bler144: But it is a good argument for not putting wagons off until deadline (assuming there are such), so there's time to assess whatever is claimed and who's making it.
always the goal, imo

we wouldn't want someone to claim 30 minutes before deadline, have everyone hop off because of the claim, giving no time for the true CC to be heard, and it to go to no-lynch...

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HijacK: I think drealmer, Hyper, and lift should take it easier with accusations. It looks like they are already raising the roof and such combative posts will only lead to them thinking of each other as scum purely based on the fact of conflict, not necessarily related to other behaviors, actions, and statements.
the absence of alcohol has given you a clarity of mind! I like it! and I totally agree in theory, however, I still feel like lift is being overly eager/aggressive in trying to get others to view me as scum, and I can't help but SR him for that given the level it has gotten to

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bler144: not exactly sure what is going on there, but feel fairly confident saying sage + trent not w/w
wow that is interested because right as I read the series of 124 - 128 the thought jumped in to my head "huh, is this possibly 2 scumbuds talking to each other in the open?"

omg, bler, I'm so glad you're playing you keep making me laugh

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bler144: For the record, I'm not interested in either flub/yogs at the moment
not even as showering companions?

*checks the state of the game before posting*

*posts this much for now because DAMN I'm behind* - this won't last through the game (I hope) I actually intend to get all caught up in the next day and be LIVE with you all because that is always so much better
Posted June 18, 2017
Oh fudgemuffin. The forum swallowed my previous post, and I actually had some interesting points (for once). I'll try to recapture those thoughts.

I was getting ready to ask what v-on-v meant, but I see that trent asked what it meant and HSL clarified. Now, I'm going ask a stupid question: What is "ISO?"

Something feels kind of "off" to me in the exchange between drealmer and lift.
Posted June 18, 2017
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docbear1975: Oh fudgemuffin. The forum swallowed my previous post, and I actually had some interesting points (for once). I'll try to recapture those thoughts.

I was getting ready to ask what v-on-v meant, but I see that trent asked what it meant and HSL clarified. Now, I'm going ask a stupid question: What is "ISO?"

Something feels kind of "off" to me in the exchange between drealmer and lift.
I believe ISO is in search of, as in searching for info on someone (going back over their posts)
Posted June 18, 2017
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trentonlf: I believe ISO is in search of, as in searching for info on someone (going back over their posts)
Isn't it "isolation" or something like that? How do you feel about Lift?


Where is Bookwyrm again? Is he scum?
Posted June 18, 2017
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trentonlf: I believe ISO is in search of, as in searching for info on someone (going back over their posts)
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dedoporno: Isn't it "isolation" or something like that? How do you feel about Lift?

Where is Bookwyrm again? Is he scum?
Lift I am not a big fan of at the moment (a lot of his posts seem forced like he is saying something because that's what's expected of him), but he is not my biggest concern or I would be voting him.

Not only bookwyrm, but where is cristi as well??
Posted June 18, 2017
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docbear1975: Oh fudgemuffin. The forum swallowed my previous post, and I actually had some interesting points (for once). I'll try to recapture those thoughts.

I was getting ready to ask what v-on-v meant, but I see that trent asked what it meant and HSL clarified. Now, I'm going ask a stupid question: What is "ISO?"

Something feels kind of "off" to me in the exchange between drealmer and lift.
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trentonlf: I believe ISO is in search of, as in searching for info on someone (going back over their posts)
Thank you, trent.
Posted June 18, 2017
I feel like we also have a new Sage. I like this Sage. No comment on alignment, but I like reading this Sage.

drealmerwallprobablycoolmightreadthatatsomepoint

I think Bookwyrm fell down the well. Like, I'm legit pretty sure he's in this game but I don't feel like closing the "add post" window" to go back and click to the first page to find out, but I'm pretty sure he's in this game but I don't remember thing #1 about him. Did he post?

Anyway good night Wesley, I will surely kill you in the morning etc.
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