Posted March 11, 2017

HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
Registered: Sep 2011
From Vatican City

gogtrial34987
Grog'tial | half-dwarf, dual-bolt crossbow
Registered: Dec 2013
From Netherlands
Posted March 11, 2017
Aye, sadly so! Gamma - you indicated before that your null line had shifted. Any significant changes in the ordering of names, or is that still the same? What is your plan for getting more information to base your vote on, or are you already certain about it and are you just sitting out the day? Any fellow players whose questions you find most useful and/or revealing?
RWarehall: I did a quick re-read...
I would also be willing to vote Hunter today.
I suggest ISOing him and see what you think... I just did, and find the overall balance of his posts to be town, given that these posts were made by him. His participation is very minimal, but it always is. What's more telling to me is the way he has defended people without need (responding to a suspicion by Gamme of first HSL, and later RW), and made the joke I pointed out earlier. This is not a strong read, but it's there all the same.
I hadn't noticed - until just writing it out here - that both his defenses were connected to Gamma, though. That might require some further thought...
RW: What's your impression of Lift's play so far?
Trent: What's your impression of RW's play so far?

I would also be willing to vote Hunter today.
I suggest ISOing him and see what you think...
I hadn't noticed - until just writing it out here - that both his defenses were connected to Gamma, though. That might require some further thought...
RW: What's your impression of Lift's play so far?
Trent: What's your impression of RW's play so far?

adaliabooks
"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?"
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted March 12, 2017
*whistles innocently*
HypersomniacLive: I won't, however, go so far as to say that you're probably misguided townie regarding trentontlf; he's pretty smooth passing as town when scum, and the line between town-him and scum-him is so very fine that constant self-check about any sort of confirmation-bias applies in his case more than in anyone else's perhaps.
What does stand out to me about trentonlf is:
1. He's said that if/when he finds someone to be scummy, he's all over them, and I've seen him do this in past games.
2. He's a firm believer of "our vote is our weapon, more so as town vanillas, and we should use it", and I've also seen him do this in past games.
3. For all his talk about drealmer7 appearing scummy, and having picked him as his top scum-pick, he's neither all over him, nor has he placed a vote on him.
Now, he may argue that he hasn't been all over drealmer7 as to not pour more gasoline to the fire because... drealmer7, but the lack of a vote is pretty noticeable. Yeah, that's a good point too. His behaviour doesn't quite tally with what I'd expect from town trent.
Ah, that will be why I didn't see it then. You'll have to tell him only you guys can read that :P

What does stand out to me about trentonlf is:
1. He's said that if/when he finds someone to be scummy, he's all over them, and I've seen him do this in past games.
2. He's a firm believer of "our vote is our weapon, more so as town vanillas, and we should use it", and I've also seen him do this in past games.
3. For all his talk about drealmer7 appearing scummy, and having picked him as his top scum-pick, he's neither all over him, nor has he placed a vote on him.
Now, he may argue that he hasn't been all over drealmer7 as to not pour more gasoline to the fire because... drealmer7, but the lack of a vote is pretty noticeable.
Ah, that will be why I didn't see it then. You'll have to tell him only you guys can read that :P

HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
Registered: Sep 2011
From Vatican City
Posted March 12, 2017
Took me for ever to fish your reply out.
What made Hunter65536 drop from being your top town-read to being your new null-line?
GammaEmerald: Yeah but he's saying the questions are pointless. I at least acknowledge that questions have use. True, but you didn't turn around on this all on your own, did you now?
You made sure drealmer7 and I can't both have access to the scum chat, didn't you? Since you're too young to suffer from senility, are you trying to raise my eyebrow again?
What made Hunter65536 drop from being your top town-read to being your new null-line?

You made sure drealmer7 and I can't both have access to the scum chat, didn't you? Since you're too young to suffer from senility, are you trying to raise my eyebrow again?

adaliabooks
"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?"
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted March 12, 2017



RWarehall
Ja'loja!
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted March 12, 2017

I would also be willing to vote Hunter today.
I suggest ISOing him and see what you think...

Did you do a re-read of the game, or only of Hunter65536?
I did a full read through. Thought Lift came off as town. I'm a little torn about Drealmer, but I'm always torn about Drealmer. The fact he's trying to lynch me isn't unusual for him when he is town.

HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
Registered: Sep 2011
From Vatican City
Posted March 12, 2017

I did a full read through. Thought Lift came off as town. I'm a little torn about Drealmer, but I'm always torn about Drealmer. The fact he's trying to lynch me isn't unusual for him when he is town.
Does this change anything in how you read Hunter65536 in relation to GammaEmerald?

RWarehall
Ja'loja!
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted March 12, 2017

I did a full read through. Thought Lift came off as town. I'm a little torn about Drealmer, but I'm always torn about Drealmer. The fact he's trying to lynch me isn't unusual for him when he is town.

Does this change anything in how you read Hunter65536 in relation to GammaEmerald?

trentonlf
Easily amused
Registered: Apr 2014
From United States
Posted March 12, 2017

Depends, how can we be sure you'll deliver?
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As for the booze and strippers, all I can say is there is not much booze left at this point and I'm not sure where the strippers went...
RW has been laying back and observing how everyone one is behaving and questioning what he finds off, for me I find this to be the town RW. From what I've seen of him as scum he is more active and pushy in his play. Not an overly pushy, but he pushes someone into making mistakes that he can exploit and it doesn't feel like he is doing that now. What is your opinion of his play so far?

cristigale
Yip Yip
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted March 12, 2017
End of day - 3/11/17
Votecount
drealmer7 (2): adaliabooks, Lifthrasil
GammaEmerald (1): RWarehall
adaliabooks (1): drealmer7
Not Voting: GammaEmerald, gogtrial34987, Hunter65536, HypersomiacLive, trentonlf
drealmer7 is closest to lynch at L-3.
Note on absences: I am counting the weekend as a single day. At tomorrow's vote count, any player whose last post was prior to the 3/9/17 (Thursday) vote count will receive a prod.
Players who notify of an absence may be granted a reasonable extension to their respective posting deadline.
Votecount
drealmer7 (2): adaliabooks, Lifthrasil
GammaEmerald (1): RWarehall
adaliabooks (1): drealmer7
Not Voting: GammaEmerald, gogtrial34987, Hunter65536, HypersomiacLive, trentonlf
drealmer7 is closest to lynch at L-3.
Note on absences: I am counting the weekend as a single day. At tomorrow's vote count, any player whose last post was prior to the 3/9/17 (Thursday) vote count will receive a prod.
Players who notify of an absence may be granted a reasonable extension to their respective posting deadline.

Hunter65536
New GOGlin
Registered: Apr 2014
From India

adaliabooks
"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?"
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom

flubbucket
"Intoning"
Registered: Dec 2012
From Micronesia

trentonlf
Easily amused
Registered: Apr 2014
From United States

drealmer7
finding balance
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States
Posted March 12, 2017
@trent - I think we've had a few good games recently without me getting agitated at dumstuff, and it's not overly bad here, I just felt like I kept having to repeat myself and I get frustrated with that, anyway, certainly me getting like that can happen as town or scum and you've got to decide which, you're wrong again here, I'm just town.
RWarehall: Not really. Just seems to me they are playing fast and loose with their reads rather than seriously reading. that's not how I take it at all, I take it as fluid and open with their reads because it is D1 and they're not pretending they're able to *know* and have the game solved so early
you are the one who seems more loose with your reads for convenience rather than fluid from genuine uncertainty
hunter has defintely been a curious question mark for the game so far, but it's hard to know how to read it, RW's "look at his ISO and tell me what you think", as pointed out, really stinks to me, like "hey go see if you can find something scummy specifically or if you can read into it being scummy in anyway!" - very much could be RW trying to get traction on hunter. it reminds me of the russian film test, who was that sergei einstein? influence what the audience sees in a picture by telling them what to see in the picture sort of thing

you are the one who seems more loose with your reads for convenience rather than fluid from genuine uncertainty
hunter has defintely been a curious question mark for the game so far, but it's hard to know how to read it, RW's "look at his ISO and tell me what you think", as pointed out, really stinks to me, like "hey go see if you can find something scummy specifically or if you can read into it being scummy in anyway!" - very much could be RW trying to get traction on hunter. it reminds me of the russian film test, who was that sergei einstein? influence what the audience sees in a picture by telling them what to see in the picture sort of thing