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CSPVG: Everyone: What are your reads on trentonlf?
I feel most if not all of the unconfirmed people seem to suspect him. That along with him not being present all the time to defend himself might mean something.
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dedoporno: I feel most if not all of the unconfirmed people seem to suspect him. That along with him not being present all the time to defend himself might mean something.
As per Krypsyn:

Heh.
Sorry about my absence, we had a very long day yesterday and when we got back to the room our mission was to get packed and ready for bed. We are now loaded up and about to head back, it will take about ten hours or so to get home. I will do my best to check in when I can along the way.


I see I'm now under suspicion, all I can say is I'm not scum. If you have any questions for me please ask and I'll answer them.
The faculty had returned to a state of paranoid silence. Nobody had spoken for hours.

Suddenly, the Dean woke from a doze with a jerk.

"What a terrible dream!" she announced. "I dreamt of a far-distant future, where a distant descendant of mine flew through space in a little tin ship, fighting in some incomprehensible war..."

She looked wildly about the room.

She pointed at trentonlf. "And you were there!" She pointed to CSPVG "And you!" She pointed at flubbucket. "And you too! But you died early."

She shook her head and slumped back into her chair.

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VOTE COUNT

CSPVG (2) flub, Dessimu

Not voting: trent, CSPVG, cristi, Hunter, HSL, dedo

CSPVG is closest to lynch at L-3

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Have a deadline. But we'll make it pretty far back so you plenty of time to stare at each other quietly before finally placing a vote because "I guess the deadline is coming up".

Deadline will be Sunday, March 20, approximately 1 PM PSD. (GMT - 7)

That's about 52 hours from now.
@trent - how do you know there are three scum remaining? BTW, have a safe trip.

If there is a godfather, we have enough corroborating information between flubb, dedo, and dessimu that it seems highly unlikely their claims are anything other than legitimate. Hunter's town confirmation is not as concrete as the rest. Dedo can vouch Hunter did nothing N2. I haven't seen anything to raise my suspicion. If we have a godfather, I'd venture it lies in the remaining unconfirmed players. I'm not convinced we have one, but it seems like a possibility.

CSPVG has been at L-2 for 17 hours and L-3 for over 24 hours. The two votes on him are solid town. If he was town, a scum team of 2 or 3 had time to lynch. I have not been overly suspicious of CSPVG (apart from a possible team with leonard) but this looks like we may have found scum. His quick hammer on Lift was a possible tell. At this point, I am comfortable voting for him.

I am still suspicious of trent. Hyper has seemed town but that would mean there are 2 or less scum remaining.
@cristigale: with all honesty, I think we should discard the option of "one scum Mafia". Because one scum would mean no scum chat. And considering that this game is very interesting, I bet my left arm and right leg, that yogsloth made a Mafia team and there are at the very least two scum. Might as well be three. But not one.
I can't count...had it in my head that lynch required four votes not five. I saw yogs post, but did not read it closely until after I posted.

This means CSPVG was not as close to lynch as I originally thought. A three man scum team could still lynch, a two man team could not. I'd better re-read CSPVG once more and see if I'm still comfortable with a vote.
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Dessimu: @cristigale: with all honesty, I think we should discard the option of "one scum Mafia". Because one scum would mean no scum chat. And considering that this game is very interesting, I bet my left arm and right leg, that yogsloth made a Mafia team and there are at the very least two scum. Might as well be three. But not one.
I agree with this, one does not make sense. Given that the opening flavor indicates the LAMIST group is responsible for the opening kill, I believe we have at least a 2 person scum team. We could also have a three person team or a two person team and an additional third party still remaining. I was thinking of someone's suggestion that we have two serial killers. But unless yogs is playing us (I don't think he is), a single mafia is not really a mafia and a single remaining SK does not fit with the game flavor.
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cristigale: @trent - how do you know there are three scum remaining? BTW, have a safe trip.

If there is a godfather, we have enough corroborating information between flubb, dedo, and dessimu that it seems highly unlikely their claims are anything other than legitimate. Hunter's town confirmation is not as concrete as the rest. Dedo can vouch Hunter did nothing N2. I haven't seen anything to raise my suspicion. If we have a godfather, I'd venture it lies in the remaining unconfirmed players. I'm not convinced we have one, but it seems like a possibility.

CSPVG has been at L-2 for 17 hours and L-3 for over 24 hours. The two votes on him are solid town. If he was town, a scum team of 2 or 3 had time to lynch. I have not been overly suspicious of CSPVG (apart from a possible team with leonard) but this looks like we may have found scum. His quick hammer on Lift was a possible tell. At this point, I am comfortable voting for him.

I am still suspicious of trent. Hyper has seemed town but that would mean there are 2 or less scum remaining.
Stopping for a quick bite. I have no idea for sure how many scum there are, I was basing my speculation off of a typical Mafia game with 25% scum, meaning there are probably 3.
Things are getting slow, no?

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HypersomniacLive: Still haven't managed to do that re-read on CSPVG, need to re-read cristigale in relation to her claim (if true, it's a nice ace), and two more claims - well, technically one claim and one outing.
Any progress on that? If not would you say there will be any before we reach the deadline considering how busy you are lately (I'm not questioning the RL stuff, I'm honestly interested in whether or not we should wait for something)?
I never made my "Bah" post!

Best of luck town.
I love March Madness, but it does make it hard to focus. Finished re-reading CSPVG, warning - wall of text incoming…

The quick hammer of Lift is the first thing I noticed that is a possible scum tell.

After flubb's claim, CSPVG posts include:
#504 - initially expresses suspicion of the claim and asks flubb for full claim
#506 - Makes a second request for a full claim
#543 - Similar suspicions but also adds that his suspicion "has a lot to do with my feelings concerning Dessimu", also indicates he has dedo "tenuously leaning towards town"
#604 - "Really, I'd mostly like to off Dessimu or Hunter to test out whether or not flubbucket is lying, but no one will go for that." Also asks dedo if dedo really wants him to claim (from dedo's #601)
#610 - Claims Town Vanilla
#636 - Says he was a bit quick to hammer Lift

….Leonard is lynched....
….D4 starts, flubb clears dedo, dedo clears flubb…

#693
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CSPVG: Also, flub and dedo are either playing a masterful mafia game as brazen liars, or they're just telling the truth. Since the latter seems more likely to me (even though I still don't really trust flub), I guess I'll have to go with it.
....flubb votes CSPVG in the next post (#694)….

#697 (respondsomg to flubb)
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CSPVG: Seriously, though, me having doubts about your claim (unopposed as it may be) is grounds for voting me? Outside of this 'problem', do you believe that I've been acting in a scummy manner?
#702
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CSPVG: flubbucket: Yes, I really am so indecisive, choosing to say that I'll have to trust you (even though I have doubts) and basically saying which two of the four people you said were most likely scum I'd be willing to go after.
…Dessimu votes for CSPVG (#709)…..

#720 (responding to Dessimu)
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Dessimu: <snip>
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CSPVG: So you protected him on the basis of a sarcastic remark I made in reference to drealmer's reasons for not wanting to reveal the names? Alright, I guess.

Also, do you have any actual reason for voting for me other than your belief that I'm acting 'strangely'? It seems a very tenuous reason to me.

Everyone: What are your reads on trentonlf?
On D3, (posts #504 - #636) CSPVG consistently expresses suspicion of flubb’s reveal. I can understand how town might be suspicious. Scum would be trying to cast doubt.

On D4, after flubb has confirmed dedo and vice versa, CSPGV is still suspicious of flubb (#693, #697, #702). I struggle to see why he would still be suspicious of flubb but sometimes its hard to let an idea go. My reasons on why scum might do this is WIFOM. I agree with flubb that #693 seems like fence sitting which is a scum tell.

In #720, CSPVG responds to Dessimu’s vote. His last comment asks for our reads on trentonlf. CPSVG mentioned some suspicion of trent early in the game (#285, #384). He has trent leaning town in #534. On Day 4, he mentioned trent once more (see below) before he asks everyone for their read on trent in #720. The request comes when CSPVG is in the spotlight and is at L-3.
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CSPVG: Since I know myself to be Town Vanilla, so that leaves (from my point of view, at least) cristi, trent, and Hyper. Of those three, I feel that Hyper, even though he has often been absent during the latter bit of this game, is the most likely to be town.
Was the request in #720 an attempt to divert attention? If CSPVG is town, such a question is expected given the small pool of scum suspects. The timing, however, seems suspect.

TLDR – CSPVG possible scum tells
- Quick hammer on Lift
- Fence sitting on flubb
- Diverting attention

@CSPVG – I will answer your question next, but it may be a few hours before I get back to the game.
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dedoporno: Things are getting slow, no?

Any progress on that? If not would you say there will be any before we reach the deadline considering how busy you are lately (I'm not questioning the RL stuff, I'm honestly interested in whether or not we should wait for something)?
Not yet (day was more busy than expected), but I got on to start my re-read on CSPVG, and if things go as scheduled over the weekend, I expect to get my post(s) out before the deadline.
CSPVG asked for our read on trent…

There was some speculation early in the game about trent sharing the player he disliked. What he shared was obvious flavor to me. I found this consistent with what he is willing to share and not share from a PM. Nothing else really stood out from the first two days.

At the beginning of D3, he is the first to suggest a no-lynch. (noting to add, it just caught my attention)
During D3, dedo accuses trent of role fishing. Nothing appeared to come of it.
Near the end of D3, trent claims Town Vanilla on his own volition. The claim seemed out of the blue. Not scummy per se, but it stood out.

Trent’s first post on D4 was what really caught my attention:
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trentonlf: That means cristi, CSPVG, and Hyper are scum. Unless flub is somehow pulling the greatest scam we should have this locked up. Anyone have any thoughts before we lynch one of them?
I’m still fairly suspicious that this was a slip. He’s been really quiet since then. I know he’s involved with real life stuff, I’m all for giving players slack for RL. The timing is unfortunate.
Somehow HSL feels a bit more scummy to me than trent, just gut feeling though. I would probably go with CSPVG at the end of day if I'm unable to find anything else. There's still 38 hours, lot of time.