Well, Hijack doesn't seem to have any clarity on whether the room-lock was related to his prod, though the fact that adalia (who wasn't prodded and claimed the flavor before Hijack) described something similar suggests it's not.

Are you, even if perhaps joking, suggesting I push it to the next stage and report back on the implications after I've been killed by scum or mod?

I've skimmed everything but not really caught up. Busy morning at work, and still have a meeting and webinar coming up. Unless the webinar sucks I think I'm back out until this afternoon but should have more time/attention then to look at actual analysis.

Just remembered something else about the lurking. Bringing it up BEFORE it might come into play (though I don't think you'll be one of the ones who might trigger this). I suspect Agent won't be making the call on things like this, though he might have been requested to submit potential cases for review.

It was a faux analysis in the sense that the entire enormous post you put up was intended (as you even say later) to ask yog if he expects no flips. It was of dubious value to town for the reasons two other people besides me mentioned when you first made it.

As for searching for the role, there was the line above, but this was my favorite right here:

You go about stating another (absurd) reason for there to be a coroner and no flips. You state you don't think it likely, but it's still a situation whereby you know of no flips in advance and there would be a coroner. "I'm not saying it's aliens... but it's aliens."

Here's more searching - the best part is both you and later leonard try to paint me as role fishing, even though you're the one doing it. I made it clear I was only interested in whether or not yog's soft claim was true (I was under the impression it wasn't).

"I'm not looking for a hard claim... but I am."

Heh.

Really? I agree that his hammer vote was odd, I am also having trouble with it, but you are saying it is what is keeping you from voting him currently? Adaliabooks did some things on Day 1 to ping my scumdar, but that hammer vote is what really has me scratching my head. What do you think he has done other than this that is so scummy and that his hammer vote actually mitigates?

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As for CSPVG: he is fine. I chatted with him on Steam for a bit yesterday. He hasn't had ready access to his computer, for various reasons, for the past month or so, and that is why he hasn't been around much (if at all).

How do you know it was scum?

I don't know. It was your question. I only detailed possible outcomes.

Maybe, maybe not. Alas, every opportunity presents itself in multiple faces.

Yes.

The numbers of blocking roles in recent games has been ridiculous.

No. I asked Lift about it and he said I've been targeted by someone.

I remember when you used to whisper such lovely thoughts to me. :P

As much as I disagree with adalia I have to agree with him on this one. Some of you people need to chill out.

Ikr?

My play on your user name in correlation to the rapper Fetty Wap's name. He only has one good eye, like you have in your avatar, and the first word in his name ends in Y, so it sounds fairly close when you pronounce them. However, he's less of a wordsmith than you. His raps kinda suck in terms of rhymes and just kind of repeat themselves, but they are catchy and the tunes only amplify that.

But the thing is, there is no blocking role claim on the table, and while it is a possibility it treads more and more into assumptions. People can't really see this situation from your perspective. In this scenario you have the insight of someone who may knows for sure he was blocked.

I actually worried and contested the validity of the prod with Lift since I got no warning, but he said it still holds water. Ah, well. I had a party to attend, so I'm not even sorry.

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I do again ;)

That's true, and I can understand that. I can also understand that I'm not exactly number 1 here for being believed. But to blatantly ignore it when your claim does confirm mine at least a little (unless they think I'm the on who blocked you and that's how I know the flavour) and there is clearly far more going on here than plain ol' mafia seems a little short sighted.

So, my post came approximately 6 hours after the prod.... IT MEANS THE PROD WAS UNJUST! I demand a refund! I was vulnerable for a night and ready to make my baggage thinking some sucker would bite the bait and NK me while only hopping there would be a watcher to see it happening. This is preposterous!

Alas, I'm still here. Yay. :D

Really. The vote itself is part of what I don't generally like about adalia so far and it was a major part, too, along with the way it was placed and the accompanying explanations/reasoning. This took another direction by the flip of p1na. By then I was almost expecting p1na to actually end up as Town Vanilla. Yet he didn't and adalia's play became weird as a scum hammer. As for what else - not much outside the whole p1na situation - I didn't like his stance about it before the flip Yesterday, nor the follow-up Today after the we knew the lynch was a success.



You read what Wyrm and I were discussing, right? If not or didn't pay too much attention to it, go through it one more time and you'll notice that I was observing the suggestion of multiple mafia teams where both blocks were scum generated. Long story short - I don't know. Up until then I was more inclined to believe it's Town jailing.

Your assumptions don't justify the security with which you asked that question.

Ah, so you don't know, but you think. Good. At least you're thinking. Anyway, I believe I can disprove both theories, but this shall have to wait for another day. Too many question marks at this point.

Good to know only a Coroner could possibly do coronering work. Depending on the game/mod, a JOAT might have a shot or two of it, but that wasn't in the lis...oh wait.

Wait, what? What does the possibility of resurrection have to do with flips and a Coroner at all?? "Your favorite" is talking about something like Sage's one shot Revive ability from Vitek's game.

This is not me trying to pin Coroner on Yog, this is me trying to find out why you'd stick to the idea of him being vanilla when that goes against all of the presently available evidence. If anything, my question was going to EXPAND the possible pool of his roles. All that was needed was to present which game had a scum fake claim vanilla and had Yog participate in some (any!) fashion.

*face palm*

Nice of you to cut out all of the other reasons for posting the logic that led to the question. Especially the first two.

Ixam, you're giving me a headache. I need some
Vote Ixam
aspirin.

Who said any of that? I said I think it's something else. Alas, I may be wrong, but it all have to wait until I figure some stuff out. Not even I am sure of these assumptions right now.

(re-reads dedo)

Oh.... shit.

Meeting ended early. Somewhat alas, as my meeting partner was quite charming, but then we're both married anyway.

I don't think what he's saying at all means what you suggest he's saying.

A coroner doesn't "resurrect" anybody, any more than they would IRL. They get info about a dead person, but that person stays dead.

I'm not an expert on the array of "resurrection" roles, but an example would be Sage's role in game 28 where Kryp was an NK N1, and Sage brought him back into the game (albeit temporarily) on D2. Likewise last game there seemed to be some suggestion that dedo might be resurrected - he was held out of the observer thread for 2+ weeks by QA, and based on what dedo said when he did appear, he said his flavor PM indicated "someone was working on him" or something to that extent.

Anyway, while I have both you and wyrm as "neutral to leaning scum" I do find your questions of him more suspicious than I find his answers to me, which at least generally are pretty reasonable .

Should have refreshed - wyrm made more or less the same point 7 min ago.

Will you explain this?