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P1na: ................ Those people who joke around and won't go deep into analysis are the worst.
I disagree.
You have decided that councilor-ship is fun. You don't have to worry about hiding your bottle when the cop walk by or about whether you'd have something to do tomorrow. You don't have to worry about if you'll end up dead by morning.

Or maybe you do.

Votecount - Vote Count

JMich: 1 (P1na)
yogsloth: 4 (bler144, trentonlf, flubbucket, Ixamkyakxim)
bler144: 1 (Krypsyn)

Not Voting: JMich, drealmer7, yogsloth, dedoporno, adaliabooks, Bookwrym627, HijacK, Leonard03, cristigale, HypersomniacLive
Post edited November 12, 2015 by agentcarr16
Note: I put together this post in a span of about 30 hours. Partying and binge watching The Walking Dead kept me busy. Oh yeah, and some homework and chicks here and there. Sue me.
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adaliabooks: Vote adaliabooks

I hear that guy's, like, always scummy.
look at booksie-wooksie. Always so damn scummy!

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bler144: Because I said before the game I would.
You did?

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bler144: So let's break this down logically. JMich/Drealmer/Leonard/Cristi/Dedo/P1na/HSL/Ix/Hijack are all lurking. What are the odds they're all scum? Pretty good, right?
Not sure if bad or utterly terrible sense of humor...

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adaliabooks: Vote End Prohibition
As a college student I approve this message. Nothing better than this life liquor to kill inhibitions and get to know people better. ;D

Question: Does anyone have a link to the observer thread of last game? I must have missed it. I have not done post-game analysis for that one yet.

*reads post 117* I don't fucking get the Town Arsonist jokes. :|

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flubbucket: Is it sad that I really dig the #PARTYHARDMOMS ??
....... Are they single?.......

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Krypsyn: I only have two beers in the house. I haven't eaten in a while, so maybe if I chug 'em, it'll give ya'll a window.
Casuals....

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Bookwyrm627: You've got not one, but TWO beers in the house during Prohibition? Clear scum tell.
This made me laugh.

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bler144: The trouble is really that he's shown that, at least based on recent history, he probably is the most effective liar at the table.
2 words: Bulletproof Berserker.

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yogsloth: I have a role in this game that is the exact role false-claimed by Scum in a game in which I participated in some capacity.
OMG, you're so Bulletproof Berserker is not even funny!

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yogsloth: btw, this bugs me a little - since I don't actually consider myself the best player in GOG forum mafia. S'okay if you want to pay me the compliment, though!
I know you're a secret fan of mine.

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yogsloth: Nine pages of worthless posts isn't too difficult.
Eh, I still struggled. For some reason RVS just doesn't appeal to me. Like at all. It's one of those things that bores me.

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bler144: Maybe we should get a room.
*le massive poker face appears with crickets singing in the background*
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:|

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Ixamyakxim: I am Untouchable
So many Indians are immigrating to US... and they are complaining about Mexicans. Wut?

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adaliabooks: You were saying?
Well, now. Neither was I. *flexes* *flexes brain*

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yogsloth: So checkitout, Town. What would you rather be doing right now? Clicking on YouTube links, discussing hot dogs, refreshing the thread to find out that those four new posts are all about TV shows...
Booky-wap. Is that you?

I'm around page 12 at this point in the post. We're finally kind of officially out of RVS. Time to get serious.

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Leonard03: Talking about missing people, where is HijacK? I thought he said he was catching up... like, yesterday.
Yeah, about that.... RVS has a way of just killing my mojo entirely and making me not really give a damn. Glad we're out of it. Also, more likely targets? And only voting for yog to avoid no lynch? Sounds like a solid excuse for a scum vote. Just sayin'.

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adaliabooks: I'd expect a post from him just before a lynch is achieved addressing points long since forgotten by the rest of us that make no sense in the context of whatever the current conversation is at the time...
But I could be wrong...
How did you...? Damn! My plan was uncovered. I need to come up with something new.

Around page 13 now. Meh.
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HijacK: Oh yeah, and some homework and chicks here and there. Sue me.
Nah, will let the chicks do the suing, if needed.
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Krypsyn: how
ever the
heck
This should not have taken me multiple rereads to catch.
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trentonlf: You are right in that his claim should be questioned, and it will come down to whether or not each person believes him because there's no way to confirm it right now. But, what purpose does discussing his role do to help town?
I'm more or less with you on this (at least right now). I'm making an effort not to ask for any clarification, to just run the analysis based on what has already been revealed and then lay out said analysis for other people to see and consider. I'm ready to move on, and you've indicated the same, so off we go! Any suggestions on what to talk about next?
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bler144: As for the 'pigeon-hole' I wrote that before I saw his response to you. So by him evading as he did, you're a bit off the hook. Had he responded in the affirmative, however... Not sure if that meets a dictionary definition of pigeon-hole, and I'd agree you didn't "push," but at least in terms of what I think the thrust of the word is, it seems to fit. Semantics?
Responding as he did renders my effort nearly worthless, as far as I can tell. Oh well.
While I might argue that I'm not the one that pigeon holed him (since I only used what he said himself to see what the possibilities are), I'll agree that the word does fit.

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bler144: On the last part, I don't know where the line is. It just feels...premature. Day isn't ending imminently. And we've at least shifted somewhat off talking about yogs' play to reactions to his play. Which probably signifies something or, y'know, that other thing.
While the Day isn't ending for awhile yet, leaving analysis to the last minute seems...unwise to me.
Regardless, I've finished with that line of analysis, and I'm open to talking about most anything right now. Care to suggest what we should discuss next?

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Bookwyrm627: JMich was Town Guard of Arsonist, Didn't Claim?
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JMich: Damn it wyrm, I was town in that game, why did you add me in the list of scum/neutrals? Or is this some sort of running joke?
Technically you were town, but your win condition was inimical to the rest of town. For you to win, all other townies had to lose. Therefore, I included you in the first pass. Regardless, your claim from that game (if any) is eliminated by the extra filters since you weren't mafia.

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JMich: You did omit the vanilla role, even though it's not usually considered a power one. On the other hand, don't forget that vanilla does have the biggest power of them all, as outlined in the OP.
Did scum false claim vanilla? *Double check* I don't see where scum false claimed vanilla in my list. The only vanilla claim I see is from Flub in game 28. He actually was vanilla, so that is filtered out.
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cristigale: @Bookwyrm – the problem I see with 1) is that in doing so, you’re also doing the work for scum and they are the ones who can benefit most from this information at this time (if yogs is town)
I knew I'd be doing the work for scum too, but if a townie doesn't do the foot work, then town isn't likely to get any results from it. I've already spoken about how scum might well have done it anyway.
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Krypsyn: It isn't square; it is only a triangle.
I've read this several times now, and I still don't have a clue what you are trying to say here.

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Krypsyn: Another argument missing an angle.
Oh. So what IS missing?
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drealmer7: A bunch of highly inebriated people voting to lynch someone just seems like a bad mix.
On the upside, hearing the defense of those wagon votes should be hilarious.
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flubbucket: I'M NOT INSINUATING ANYONE IS A SERIAL KILLER.
Translation: "I totally think someone is a serial killer. Probably me."
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flubbucket: I would really like to read more from HijacK, dedoporno, Ixamyakxim, Leonard 03, and P1na.
I feel like I can fill in for at least two of these people.

Hijack: "Girls, girls, girls, parties, I wanna hammer, girls, girls..."
Ixam: "Oo, a lynch wagon! Oo, a lynch wagon! Oo, a lynch wagon!"

No offense meant, guys. ;)
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JMich: Damn it, it should have been to the right. Don't worry, I'll talk to the pineapple.
That is actually pretty helpful. thanks.
Unvote JMich.

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flubbucket: I disagree.
How dare you?
vote flubbucket
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HijacK: Question: Does anyone have a link to the observer thread of last game? I must have missed it. I have not done post-game analysis for that one yet.
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/84KuWgrxnypr
Mchack slipped it into one of his posts, incognito style.
I AM TOTALLY NOT POSTING IN ALL CAPS ON PURPOSE.

ALSO I AM NOT YELLING.

THIS IS NOT AN ADMISSION OF POSTING IN ALL CAPS.
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agentcarr16: You have decided that councilor-ship is fun. You don't have to worry about hiding your bottle when the cop walk by or about whether you'd have something to do tomorrow. You don't have to worry about if you'll end up dead by morning.

Or maybe you do.

Votecount - Vote Count

JMich: 1 (P1na)
yogsloth: 4 (bler144, trentonlf, flubbucket, Ixamkyakxim)
bler144: 1 (Krypsyn)

Not Voting: JMich, drealmer7, yogsloth, dedoporno, adaliabooks, Bookwrym627, HijacK
So I see Leonard, cristi, and Hyper are not included in the vote analysis, does this mean they can't vote ;-)
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Krypsyn: Who says everything I say has to only have one meaning?
I don't know. Sometimes I get the feeling everything you say has NO meaning.... I kid, I kid. No need to go all old age grumpy on me. :P

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HypersomniacLive: Hijack has yet to post anything game related, and will probably show up telling stories about wild parties.
The hell with it! How does everyone know my plan now?

Ah, whatever, I wanted to keep this one tucked for the weekend, but I'll probably be partying even harder so I'll get new ammo then, but the last kickback I went to on Tuesday got lit real quick. Like 0 to 100, real quick. A bunch of dudes started a gang fight. It was hilarious. They thought they were badasses. I used to fight pussies like them back home on a regular basis. All words, no spine. Getting your "homie's" help because heaven forbid you take a punch.

Ah well, now for Friday. Friday was actually chill. We just drank, chilled, watched hot chicks pass by because...shit... we were paying sequence and no amount of alcohol, music, mulah, and other stuff can make that attractive. But, sequence is fun, so screw them. Got better shots this weekend.

And then there was Saturday. Party hopped like crazy. Drank this fancy French Liquor gibberish. Hpnothic or something. Reminded me of HSL for some reason. Really decent taste, and not too bad in alcohol percentage. People got drunk on cheap whine though, so that sucked. Like, wtf? Wine fucks you up? Man, I knew people here don't have the genes for drinking, but that was utterly ridiculous. The beer was good though. I was never a fan of Corona, but I'm starting to be one. Though, i gotta say, that shit ain't doin' anything. It's more of a "I drink it for the taste" thing. I don't know. If you wanna get a party started just get everyone on drinking Four Loko. That will get things movin' real quick, real quick.

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HypersomniacLive: You keep repeating how you loathe PM and whatnot talk, how bold plays are dangerous to town, how RVS is difficult, and so forth. yogsloth has repeatedly said that you never take any action to get us out of RVS, I say I've never seen you even state what you consider a good, or at least acceptable, way to get out of RVS. All you seem to do D1 is tell us what not to talk about, what not to do, initiate no discussion, then wait till someone says or does something you perceive as unacceptable, and cast a vote.
I've been meaning to say this for a couple of games, but... eh... I've been told I have an insulting way of saying things.

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trentonlf: To be honest other than talking and asking questions I would not have any other ideas to move day 1 along.
And what kind of questions would you ask? What could move the game away from this atrocious entity called RVS? So far the performance of this day hasn't impressed me. Questions haven't really done much, if anything, or anything productive. Many of them were so unrelated to the game it's not even funny.

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Bookwyrm627: Yog, care to tell how you define "scum"? How do YOU define it?
Here. Finally some good questions.

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Bookwyrm627: Okay, here we go with a Text O Doom.
OMG.... no. I hate these.

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Bookwyrm627: -Bulletproof Berserker seems absurd. Also neutral.
Ridiculous! That was a genius claim.

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Bookwyrm627: -I just realized that Hijack's Bulletproof Berserker was either rather dumb (LotR has no bullets) or unintentionally smart (Arthur Dent might have theoretically had some bullets). Just an amusing thought I had while working on all this.
Pls. It was genius and you're just jelly.

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Leonard03: cristigale + wild parties = ???
I'd wanna be invited.

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cristigale: = two decades too late for this ;-)
Late 30's?

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flubbucket: I would really like to read more from HijacK
Then you should really read my party adventures.

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JMich: Nah, will let the chicks do the suing, if needed.
What are you saying there, Mr. JMich? Are you insinuating I am engaging in illegal activities? Shame on you! You know what they say when you assume. You just make an ass out of you and me.

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Bookwyrm627: Hijack: "Girls, girls, girls, parties, I wanna hammer, girls, girls..."
I don't know. The one comma before the last seems unnecessary. :P

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Bookwyrm627: *le link appears*
Thank you!
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Bookwyrm627: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/84KuWgrxnypr
Mchack slipped it into one of his posts, incognito style.
I just realized this is the scum chat and not the observer thread. :/ >.>
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agentcarr16: You have decided that councilor-ship is fun. You don't have to worry about hiding your bottle when the cop walk by or about whether you'd have something to do tomorrow. You don't have to worry about if you'll end up dead by morning.

Or maybe you do.

Votecount - Vote Count

JMich: 1 (P1na)
yogsloth: 4 (bler144, trentonlf, flubbucket, Ixamkyakxim)
bler144: 1 (Krypsyn)

Not Voting: JMich, drealmer7, yogsloth, dedoporno, adaliabooks, Bookwrym627, HijacK
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trentonlf: So I see Leonard, cristi, and Hyper are not included in the vote analysis, does this mean they can't vote ;-)
Man, I'm really bad at this, aren't I?
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Leonard03: but currently I'm looking for more likely targets.
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Bookwyrm627: How?
Watching and waiting.

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Leonard03: I'll vote for you to avoid a no-lynch, but currently I'm looking for more likely targets.
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JMich: Interesting choice of word there.
>_>


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flubbucket: THIS IS AN ANTI-LURKER MANIFESTO.
No you too! :P
(This is a joke people, don't get in a tizzy)

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agentcarr16: vote-count
What about meeeeee? Or cristigale? Or HypersomniacLive?
Prepost edit: I see this has been pointed out already.

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Leonard03: Talking about missing people, where is HijacK? I thought he said he was catching up... like, yesterday.
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HijacK: Yeah, about that.... RVS has a way of just killing my mojo entirely and making me not really give a damn. Glad we're out of it. Also, more likely targets? And only voting for yog to avoid no lynch? Sounds like a solid excuse for a scum vote. Just sayin'.
You want a no-lynch like last game? I sure don't.

My $.02 on Bookwyrm's post. I really don't see that it matters too much for him to post it. If scum wanted they could go back and check for themselves (that's assuming yogsloth is town), so we can't stop them. If he's scum, this makes it easier for all the townies to have the info in front of them (possibly also his scum buddies too, depends if they have had a chance to talk or not, N0 maybe? Or daychat?). IMO it would be better, though, to try and figure what yogsloth's plan is. Does he have one? What can we do to help/hinder (latter if he's scum) it? I don't have any ideas yet though.
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Bookwyrm627: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/84KuWgrxnypr
Mchack slipped it into one of his posts, incognito style.
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HijacK: I just realized this is the scum chat and not the observer thread. :/ >.>
Here is Observer thread.
I'm off to work now, will probably check in from mobile in about 2.5 hrs or so.