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Posted November 27, 2015
i'll re-read overnight, but on first pass I have to say:
nice job glossing, there. Personally I don't buy it.

You sort of get at why there _might_ be two teams, but not why you would guarantee it. People speculated on SK and you didn't guarantee that.

You don't really seem to at all cover how you got to the bizarre possibility that lynch flips would flip bad.

Also, "vanilla" was not actually the most likely take-away. Why? Because if you had been vanilla you almost certainly wouldn't have teased it the way you did. The fact that scum have, at some time, false-claimed vanilla isn't particularly significant such that you would just casually, off-the-cuff leaked that detail in your tease.

Not even totally sure I buy that you are the jailer, frankly.
Posted November 27, 2015
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bler144: i'll re-read overnight, but on first pass I have to say:
nice job glossing, there. Personally I don't buy it.
Gee, really? You don't say? Color me shocked, bler.

As opposed to anything whatsoever in the entire world I could have posted where you would have said, "Oh hey, my paranoid rantings have been wrong this entire time! I totally take it all back!"

I've had quite a bit of fun dangling you along, but c'mon man. This is intellectually dishonest at this point.
Posted November 27, 2015
After a long staring contest, HijacK has finally had enough. "Let's end this!" he shouts. "Leonard, I accuse you of being in the pockets of the Mob! Seize him!"
And the others grab Leonard while HijacK fastens the noose of the trusty lynching rope around his neck. Then Leonard is forced to stand upon a chair. "Any last words?" HijacK asks and kicks the chair away before Leonard can answer. "Aaarglgarglgll...!" screams Leonard while he is choked to death. "Thought so." HijacK says. "Let's see what we got here."
Leonards belongings are searched, and indeed, you find evidence incriminating him. Apparently he was corrupted by the Mafia and you have finally lynched one of those bastards killing you at night. Perhaps you can sleep more soundly tonight and come to a decision tomorrow.

Leonard is dead - he was Luca Bertossi, Mafia Jailer, his power was to lock someone in at night, protecting him but also preventing him from doing anything.

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Final vote count:

leonard 7: krypsyn, yogsloth, Ixamyakxim, dedoporno, cristigale, drealmer, HijacK
yogsloth 5: Bookwyrm, trentonlf, bler144, flubbucket, leonard

everybody voted but nobody voted anything concerning a solution today.
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Ixamyakxim has been prodded today and is therefore more likely to die.

It is now night. Please stop posting in this thread for now. Those of you who can converse at night, can do so now in their secret thread. Those of you who have night actions, please send them to me as soon as you can.
Due to the absence of a large part of the cast due to Thanksgiving, I am extending the night to encompass the weekend (unless all night actions are in before that). The next Day will start at the latest on Monday.
Posted November 27, 2015
I already noted in a prior post that I don't think one puts together what you did as "town jailer," and on first pass nothing you've said convinces me otherwise.
Posted November 27, 2015
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bler144: I already noted in a prior post that I don't think one puts together what you did as "town jailer," and on first pass nothing you've said convinces me otherwise.
And again someone talks in his sleep. bler seemingly can't let go and keeps discussing with yogsloth, even after he isn't present any more.
Posted November 27, 2015
How carefully did ya'll read those paper?
You know, a little way down where it says:
"Birthdate: November 27"










You jerks, 365 days of the year and you picked today.
Posted November 29, 2015
Tonight, knowing that you have lynched scum, you sleep well. Some of you are worried, that it isn't over yet, but you are all tired. However, those predicting that it isn't over yet turn out to be right. At dawn you all start from your sleep. You have again been awakened by the sound of a Tommygun. Someone surely died again! You all run out to see who was the unfortunate target and it doesn't take you long to find Yogsloth. He wasn't even in his room, but he is lying in the hallway. His body perforated by bullets and his blood forming a large puddle around him.
You quickly search his body and room and ideed, you manage to find out some interesting things about him...

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Yogsloth is dead. He was Adriano Cepano, Mafia Jailer, his power was to lock someone in at night, protecting him but also preventing him from doing anything.
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It is now Day 3. You may resume posting.

All votes have been reset to zero and all lurker-marks have been cancelled.
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Posted November 29, 2015
Two mafia jailers...
Posted November 29, 2015
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cristigale: Two mafia jailers...
So I'm guessing that's why they were howling about two mafia teams.

I still ain't buying it because we've yet to have two deaths.
Posted November 29, 2015
So far we've had:
2 scum jailers
1 scum thug
Two no-flips
adalia - flipped vanilla which contradicts his claim

Two jailers on a single scum team? possible but seems unlikely, unless backups are in play (yogs becomes jailer when Leonard dies), not sure I buy this, but yes, yogs would bus his buddy, even with pina dead

Two separate scum teams,? also possible. The teams would need to take each other as well as town out. Still, I'd expect more town casualties at this point (with the above scenario as well.) The no-flips seem likely to be town. Perhaps all town are no-flips. (I don't buy adalia was vanilla or town after his claim, he was either neutral or scum)

Can we trust anything about the flips? It all feels topsy turvy so far. Not sure what to think.

I apologize in advance for any errors, hard to check with mobile.
Posted November 29, 2015
Can't quote...love mobile.should have read it first, it sounded good in my head...strike that first scenario, it makes no sense to NK your own member. Which again makes me wonder how much we can trust the flips.
Posted November 29, 2015
Agreed. Flips are suspect.

What if there is a bus driver rerouting kills?? That would explain mafia getting killed.
Posted November 29, 2015
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flubbucket: So I'm guessing that's why they were howling about two mafia teams.

I still ain't buying it because we've yet to have two deaths.
I seem to recall in your milk game there were two Grandfather roles that were able to kill on alternating nights, if there are two scum teams in play it could be the same thing. If there are not two scum teams then either yogs or Leonard's flip was messed with because I can't see there being two mafia jailers.

Since yogs was found in the hallway instead of in his room he must have been out doing something, was anyone jailed last night?
Posted November 29, 2015
Has anyone noticed the subtle differences between P1na's and Leonard's flip or adalia's and Leonard's flip? There is no "apparently" in Leonard's. Literally. It says we finally got one of those bastards. Is that confirmation that adalia was speaking the truth and someone messed around with his flip? Was P1na really scum? I think there's some shady business going on here and I urge us to do some wagon analysis.
Posted November 29, 2015
Huh. Can't say I'm surprised it looks like he was mafia, but surprised he was the NK. I was actually pretty convinced I'd be the NK in that particular moment.

Lots to think about though. Among them, his play was seemingly to try and lynch through Trent/Dedo/Wyrm using the cred from P1na/Leonard, so what does that say about those three? Probably depends on if there was 1 team or two. Trent is the only one of the 3 I find suspicious. Yogs' theory on wyrm/dedo in particular seemed thin.

As a first reaction, with the lack of clarity on structure I'm going back to the person I find scummiest overall:

Vote Ix.

Plus in my two teams theory he was the one who looked most likely to be paired with yogs. One team or two, I like the odds on him best. Will be out for a few hours, but will try and do a better re-read later.
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