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mchack: And pray tell what's the fairly intuitive mitigating circumstances?
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Krypsyn: The "why", not the "what".

Why did I do what I did? Why is Vitek doing what he did? What is the motivation for each of us?

I know what I think, but then again, I have a leg up because I already know my motivation was with 100% certitude.
Ok, so: Why did you do what you did? (put misleading statements out there). But in fact actually don't answer before vitek does, just so he doesn't go: Yeah that one!
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mchack: Ok, so: Why did you do what you did? (put misleading statements out there). But in fact actually don't answer before vitek does, just so he doesn't go: Yeah that one!
I am reminded of my absolute favorite Science Fiction Series: Babylon 5. In the show, there are two meddling godlike races and they both ask a superficially different question. The Vorlon ask: "Who are you?" The Shadows ask: "What do you want?" Really, they are asking the same question.
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Ixamyakxim: Is it worthwhile for me to speculate or does that just confuse things?
Sorry I missed you. Actually I didn't miss the post but neglected to reply. By all means, feel free to share your thoughts. The fact that you were quite close to being lynched and I'm still on your wagon doesn't mean you should shut up and wait quietly for the resolution of the lynch.
Let me give you all a giant log to read and try and make myself, and hopefully the situation as I see it, as clear as possible. Vitek brought this upon you all, btw. Sorry for those that it bothers, really, my wordiness, but, it is how it must go, it seems.

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Vitek: Oh my! Aren't you bloodthirsty one! I think true station crew wouldn't be so willing to murder people with no regard for their life and feelings. Only intruders are like that.
Nah, not bloodthirsty at all. Like I've said, and I thought was clear: I'd probably prefer to not eliminate someone on the first day as I think the odds are more in favor of the group of us to eliminate a crew member (through manipulation of thought and whatever else like you have been exhibiting, and other intruders seem to be doing as well.) And, it seems no one else is even really seconding me on the suggestion (though some might be willing given a circumstance, but it seems this situation is not it because of the stance of everyone else to not do a no-lynch, so, we kind of have to do it eventually, you know?) Although it is hard to tell necessarily who and who and who (Ix has just seemed less intruder-like to me than you, is all, it's not that he's not up for question, as, we all are, of course, we have to understand that. It's about making a case, seeing who agrees, and if enough do to eliminate them. I'm not trying to derail the thoughts about him from anyone else, just discussing more options, getting it all out there, you know, doing the work we need to do to get the situation resolved!)

But, yes, I'm fairly certain you have made some slips, some of the things mchack pointed out I had been thinking myself and other things/behaviors you have exhibited as well, and certainly this behavior now, have drawn you into enough question in my mind to vote for you. I'm very sorry if you are a crew member and my judgement is off. I'm not "jumping on" to anything [I think that is response to an HSL question?, and Vitek's talking about HSL makes me suspicious of them both.] and some others seem to be doing not much to move the discussion along or derail it frmo the goal at hand, and I find that suspicious. It's kind of like "let's just let the situation fester and see if we can eventually get enough people falsely convinced a crew member is an intruder and get on board with that peron/see if we can get the direction of the convo. steered towards someone who IS a crewmember and get them eliminated. Blah blah. You know this, and are just trying to seem as innocent or confusing as you can to get the vote of you, is very very likely, to me, and so, yes, I will vote for you.). And, also, again, no, this does not make me bloodthirsty at all, we all just have to (and have resolved) resolve to trying to figure out who we think the intruders are, or who is most likely to be, and discuss it and vote to eliminate them.

There have already been a few pile-ups of votes on some people first of all, and they seem to have lost steam at this point (again, I'm not trying to close discussion on the convo. on anyone), it really feels like this day is dragging on for a long time. I mean, I feel like I'm in some sort of time-vortex-warp or something and everything is extended. Maybe you don't experience it anymore because you're adjusted to such space living, but fo rme, I'm experiencing some sort of time-extended jet-lag effect that is messing with my sense of time, it's almost as if this day could have ended already (not that I'm impatient for it to, just, it seems time enough to talk about another person (you, here, it seems) who might be a viable intruder to eliminate. So, really, I'm just saying I can strongly see voting for you, and will go ahead and say as much. I also wonder if anyone else is willing to. I am just probably almost as comfortable going ahead and voting for krypsyn or trentonlf (who has moved down in most viable candidate, obviously, by the casting of my vote for you, and the reason for me not casting my vote for him and doing you instead at this point, is because he is much more subtle in his intruder-like behavior than you or krypsyn have been, I'm comfortable just keeping my eye on him for the next few rounds of elimination and see how suspicion on him might build or decline
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Vitek: (or in other words, somewhat opportunistic vote as you waited for someone else to vote me first. )
No. And, this is just obvious intruder talk to me, really. I'm bloodthirsty for wanting to vote, I'm opportunistic, I'm blah blah blah. No, I'm simply resolved that we have to get the elimation discussion going a bit more, and, I'm comfortable enough thinking you're an intruder to do it. It's nothing personal, it's just how this situation seems to have to go.

Really, address mcchack's points more directly and stop delaying (you barely did explain your behaviors at this point, and, so, yeah, we get it, you don't want to be focused on or eliminated, of course, no one does, and, again, I'm very sorry if you ultimately turn out to be crew-member and my suspicion of you is wrong.)
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drealmer7: Really, address mcchack's points more directly...
Maybe he doesn't feel like paying the postage?

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Man, I am never going to be the prettiest princess at this rate. :(
Breaking up my log-entries for ease-of reading (errrr, easier ease-of reading?) Please allow for a delay period for my responses and thoughts, as it seems this entry took almost 30 minutes after my previous entry to upload! These computer systems sure are slow~! Or maybe it's just my quickness at uploading. Well, either way, I stand by my assessment that something is whacked with our A.I. Q.U.A.D. and we may need to do something about it at some point before all of this is over.
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HypersomniacLive: I've already asked you twice about a couple of things you said in your post #191, you simply ignored them, as did you ignore my question about agentcarr16 in the very post you selectively quoted. Am I to assume that you deem my questions irrelevant? If so, it's quite interesting that things you yourself first brought up are relevant, but questions about them are not. Is that your idea of effective communication and working together?
No, I don't think your questions are irrelevant. I guess I just don't understand what you don't understand about post #191. I feel like it is succinct and clear enough of why my suspicions are what they are. And, they are just that, generalized suspicions anyway, I am trying to figure out who the intruders are. I do appreciate you drawing attention to Log Entry #191, as, I feel it is pretty good and basic beginnings to talk about who might be an intruder, just viewed from my perspective. It speaks for itself, really. What is confusing to you about it? I am starting to think you are more likely an intruder than others (not like it's a strong suspicion or anything, again, there is really no way to tell and we are just trying to do our best to discern who it is based on their behavior. You seem to possibly be trying to confuse the simplicity of the situation, inflame my statements as if they are so horrible or something, when I'm just being pragmatic and getting to the dirty deed that I'm reluctant to do and eliminate someone before we drive Q.U.A.D. mad with our lolly-gagging and he does something more rash than eliminate 1 of us. I think that is a possibility, he seems quite unstable to me.

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HypersomniacLive: I totally expect Ixamyakxim to jump on me, but I smell a need for you to work on your Reading Skills.

Even before reading the edit, post #2 clearly stated what skills each STAT affects, and fixing things, which involves fine manipulation and use of smaller tools, is not part of INT.
Yeah, I just missed it. I got it now. Thanks for making sure I do, though. Really dumb of me, which is completely not typical of my intellect, I assure you. I am on it!
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HypersomniacLive: Interesting that you cast your vote on Vitek, even though you still have trentonlf as #1 in your latest suspects list (still don't get why), and it kind of feels like you're piggybacking onto mchack's arguments to do so.
Just to be sure my thoughts are clear for you. No, Vitek is my #1 suspicion now, especially now even, and that is why I voted for him. Althought, I must say, now that you've caused me to think about it even more than I had previously, at this point, I think I very well could be convinced to vote for my #2 or #3 choices if someone suddenly made a strong case for them OR, really, even (and this doesn't make me bloodthirsty, this just makes me ready to be part of the task at hand) if there had been discussion about my #3 to the point that 1 more vote would be needed to eliminate them, then, yeah, I suppose I'd go ahead and unvote Vitek and vote whomever my #3 would be at that point, which you're doing a good job of working your way up to, I must say.

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HypersomniacLive: On top of that, you've been arguing against people that take a chance and cast their vote this whole time, but now it's fine to do so yourself?
I feel I'm repeating myself at this point, but I want to make sure I'm clear for you. This day has felt like it has dragged on for days, I'm resolved to eliminating since we can't get a non-elimination round it seems, and as such, am comfortable voting for Vitek very much, but, if I am wrong I am sorry.

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HypersomniacLive: How are you sure that the communicators still work? Wasn't the communication department bombed leaving us cut off? Was there a development on that front that I've missed?
They can simply upload it to the data-log that we all have access to of what is going on and cast their votes that way, or even share any opinions they might have. The people holding the lasers can even voice-enter their thoughts as they work and we can read them as soon as they are uploaded by the person and read them at our discretion. It will work just as has been done already in this situation, people uploading their thoughts to the log so we can address (or ignore!) them at our will. The computers are at least working well enough for that, it seems! *phew*
@drealmer7 Do you know what OMGUS and WIFOM are? If not, look them up in the link I gave you a few days ago. Do you understand how both of these can be seen as applying to your arguments?

(There is one answer that you can give here that will result in me voting for you, regardless of the fact that you are a new players. No pressure.)
Datadump of a ton of thoughts from the past few days. I might have to separate this into two posts, but whatever.


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HijacK: <snippity-snip>
So, drealmer7, you've got a whole ton of people on your case for roleplaying this thing. I understand their frustration, as it becomes difficult to interact meaningfully.
At the same time, I'm really enjoying your participation, so keep it up!

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Crewdroog: If it's THAT bad for you playing, why not offer yourself up as first lynch? then you don't have to worry about it anymore.

Vote HijacK
So you're voting for HijacK because he's voting for someone based on playstyle?
*ahem*
You yourself are voting for HijacK based on his playstyle.

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CarrionCrow: Figuring that the stats rank from 1 to 10, with a base of 15 points in total being allocated across the three stats.
I see that you've got a bit of flak for this, as it should only be based on your stats. However, that would also be what I would conclude based on my stats alone.

Yes, I'm putting that out there for scum to mull over. I don't care. It's already been blown, and trentonlf and Crewdroog have said that their stats don't mirror that exactly, so no big deal, IMO.

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RWarehall: Not sure why anyone would choose me, but whomever gets to make the choice should not choose me for a Finickiness task...
Wheee! Finicky!
(breadcrumb of other stats, perhaps?)

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trentonlf: You a fan of a good fantasy novel? If so I recommend reading The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson, most excellent book.
Excellent book. Awesome book. Superlative book. Yeah, I like it...

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mchack: Peter Santiago (Generator Technician)
Very little comment on mchack being the first to spill concrete PM stuff.


More to follow shortly...
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Krypsyn: ...
I would understand that you would vote for me. I'd be just as comfortable voting for you at this point, but wouldn't do so just because you are voting for me, certainly that is just silly non-logic. I'd vote for you for numerous other actual reasons, as I've stated all along almost as potential reasons that you are an intruder (though it could be that your INT is 1 and you are behavior is simply indicitive of that, as I've stated.) It's just the dark certainty of our situation, it seems, to pick someone, multiple people even, that we think could be intruders. This whole situation that Q.U.A.D. is forcing us to endure (by voting to eliminate someone) is almost barbaric, cruel, and, as I said early on in the day (HSL even brought into question this behavior of its at the very beginning) rather arbitrary and non-fact based judgement sort of thing that seems like an experiment being conducted by the intruders themselves. It's a bad situation indeed, and I'm sorry if my suspicions of you, or of anyone, are erroneous. I'm doing my best, as I hope we all are, to make the right choices.

And, now that I think about it some more, my suspicion of you would certainly rise if you voted for me, because, if you are an intruder, it would mean you are threatened by my continuous assessment of the situation, calling you into question and others of your alliance. It also would make sense, regardless of who votes for me or not at whatever points, that if I die on our first overnight, that it would be likely that my assessments of you, trentonlf, Vitek, and possibly even HSL are correct and you wanted to eliminate me for being so good at figuring out the situation. Those other 3 wouldn't even have to openly vote for me, and, in fact, probably wouldn't do so because it would just confirm some suspicion in a way if I were to die at night.

If you vote for me after that response, then I have to say, I most certainly would think you are more likely an intruder and not just some imbecile with low INT (I don't mean to be insulting at all, I'm just addressing the potentiality of the situation in a blunt and straightfoward matter-of-fact way so that we can talk about it all if necessary and resolve the situation.) At this point also, you could very well not vote for me and that also requires some reflection upon your choice because you might not vote for me due to me calling you out even further at this point.

And back and forth and back and forth it goes, what can we do? Hope we make the right choice, everyone, hope we make the right choice.
@agentcarr51: nope, I was voting for him b/c he was being a rude jerk. and please, that was NOT a play style. this is a game, there is no reason for that. no one should be talked to that way.
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drealmer7: ...
Good enough.

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agentcarr16: So, drealmer7, you've got a whole ton of people on your case for roleplaying this thing. I understand their frustration, as it becomes difficult to interact meaningfully.
Had drealmer7 replied to my OMGUS/WIFOM question with an RP response about not understanding my terminology, I would have voted for him. That was the one response I didn't want.

It was also half the reason I asked the question in the way I did.

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Crewdroog: ... he was being a rude jerk ...
Hey! I resemble that remark...
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mchack: *snap*
It was because of Krypsyn's future reasons. :-p


Or maybe because I disliked people volunteering and saying what stat they are proficient in, moreso without actually knowing if they stats are indeed any good.
Or more likely just because I am flippant, like to mess around, like to post stuff even if it don't push any real serious agenda and would never ever imagine people would find such post scummy.


Or maybe it was scum plot to get Krypsyn call me Übermensch to learn he has lower stats than that.


@dreamler; I admit I am already skimming you posts, so I am sorry if I have missed it, but you could please answer my question about trenton? If you answered it somewhere in that pile of fluff I apologoize and would appreciate if you point me toward it.
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Vitek: It was because of Krypsyn's future reasons. :-p
Yeah that one!
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agentcarr16: So, drealmer7... understand their frustration, as it becomes difficult to interact meaningfully.
At the same time, I'm really enjoying your participation, so keep it up!
I strive to make my interactions with all of you as meaningful as possible. I hope we are able to communicate effectively during this difficult situation and work together to resolve it. This is why I initially said (and then repeated, and got asked about repeating it/if I was drawing attention to it in some peculiar way or what,) but, no, was not, and am still not, just, this is my way of trying to interact with you meaningfully!!! It's the differing dialects/lingo that I'm not used to because of being from a moon-colony sort of thing, I'm sure. It is really important to be able to do so, I agree wholeheartedly. I'm trying my best. Thanks for bearing with me, you and everyone! ·þ
#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:588#Q&_^Q&Q#
#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:591#Q&_^Q&Q#
Yeah, that's Krypsyn. Get used to it. He does it a lot. Keeps the game interesting, IMO.
I'm actually surprised that he came out with his reason so reasonably.
Heh.

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QuadrAlien: <snipparoo>
Interesting provisional team...
And RWarehall himself isn't too sure about the choices.

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yogsloth: I've been thinking about the crisis situation, and the one real conclusion I've come to is that probably nobody cares what I think. :)
Wrong.

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mchack: <stuff>
This stuff is really bothering me. On one Hand I get told, you get to catch scum by making their slipping up (ie. catch them in a lie) and on the other hand stuff like

this is just totally accepted behaviour.
<more stuff>
I know what you mean. I think that Town has gotten too used to small jokes heavily-laden with meaning.

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yogsloth: I believe the player selecting the team must be Town (and ineligible to participate himself)
Why wouldn't he be able to go himself? Presumably his stats are at a similar level as the rest of us, so he's going to have one that's low. In that case, he won't put

himself on because he's not really capable of helping.
I wouldn't presume that whoever it is is ineligible to participate.

Posts 630-634

Beautiful little evasive maneuver on the part of Vitek. *applause*

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yogsloth: Heh.
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Krypsyn: :)
Making you proud, ain't we?

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CarrionCrow: ...people going back and forth grasping at any snippet in an attempt to glean even a sliver of value from the talking.
Very true. Some grasp harder than others. Some are more perceptive than others.

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Vitek: That's what I was telling you before. It has nothing do with my alignment at all.
That's nigh (mchack? Notice?) impossible. Was it solely a joke? Because I'd compare it to the proverbial lead balloon.

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dedoporno: Agent spoke my mind about it with the only difference that he was talking about Vitek. Even so, the general idea of his

post applies here as well.
Problem is...
That's not my post.
Did you link wrong, or do you actually mean mchack?

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Crewdroog: <Snip-a-dee-doo-da>
At least you're consistent.

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yogsloth: <snip, snip, snip>
Awww :(
I had wondered at your newfound reticence; this explains it.
I've actually found it fun to try and switch up your meta. Makes things more interesting...

And if you become too main-stream, I'm gonna have to start voluntarily spouting PM info of my own. We've gotta have someone to pick on...

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drealmer7: <XL snip>
*grimace*
Sorry, man, but that is just too difficult to read. I appreciate the intention to make yourself clear. It's necessary in this game. But try breaking it into small sections for easy reading by those of us who don't want to have to focus. And Please close your parentheses. If there's one thing that really hurts me, right down in my heart, it's unclosed parentheses ;)

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drealmer7: it really feels like this day is dragging on for a long time. I mean, I feel like I'm in some sort of time-vortex-warp or something and everything is extended. Maybe you don't experience it anymore because you're adjusted to such space living, but fo rme, I'm experiencing some sort of time-extended jet-lag effect that is messing with my sense of time, it's almost as if this day could have ended already (not that I'm impatient for it to, just, it seems time enough to talk about another person (you, here, it seems) who might be a viable intruder to eliminate.
I hate Day 1. I really do.
We have nothing to go on and mods seem to think it has to be at least as long as all the other Days. Unfortunately, just ignoring it doesn't really work as you get targeted for lurking. You really have to look at is as an opportunity to gauge all the other players in preparation for Day 2 and beyond.

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Krypsyn: Man, I am never going to be the prettiest princess at this rate. :(
unvote (just in case)
Vote Krypsyn

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Crewdroog: @agentcarr51: nope, I was voting for him b/c he was being a rude jerk. and please, that was NOT a play style. this is a game, there is no reason for that. no one should be talked to that way.
Gotcha. OK.


Apologies for any misspellings or grammatical errors, because I really don't feel like proofreading at the moment.


Personal game stuff to follow, perhaps...