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Vitek: I don't know how I managed to post that. I don't think I even clicked anything.

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CarrionCrow: ...
I too found crew scummy on D1, but I am fairly content with Wyrm so I am not much keen on lynching him right now.
(And there's strike three. Vitek is content with someone, despite thinking the character they're playing is scummy, so said scummy-feeling person gets a pass?...
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Vitek: Yes.
I found crew fairly scummy (not enough to have her as my prime scum picka s I said to her on D1).
I don't find Wyrm's play scummy so far.
Could be because of their different playstyles that crew struck me scummy or just because Wyrm is better in being scum.
Can't tell yet but am not calling him scum because his predecessor did 2 slightly scummy posts.

I am not commenting on the rest because it is beyond ridiculous.
That's GOG forums for ya.

Like I said...perfectly sensible. They're playing the same character, but give it a pass just because.

Please, don't get shy suddenly. You weren't shy while pushing to have me killed. Why start now?
It's okay, sunshine, I promise I'll be gentle. =)
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Vitek: Like this?
There are outsiders posting here constantly so I figured 1 little bump to shorten my wait won't matter. :-)
Be glad I didn't edit my post to fix it. ;-)


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Vitek: I am not commenting on the rest because it is beyond ridiculous.
OK, I am going against what I said and will add 1 little comment.
I looked up what you are talking about with drealmer and only thing I see is accidentally merged posts. Although I don't like them there were like 3 of them in this game and they were not made on purpose. It is only because of this forum and wouldn't happen on other forums. I find Quard's punishement for those ery fitting (although as I understand it drealmer got none?)
You and Ix on the other hand edited your post on purpose. That's whole different league and can't be compared.
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yogsloth: Flamingo attack is used for accidentally editing due to the 10 minute rule. Deliberately editing for any reason should be cause for immediate mod kill. Listen to this sentence, because you won’t hear it often: “I agree with Vitek.” Were I running this game, I would have modkilled Ix yesterday without hesitation. Being a new player, I might have given you a pass once for the typo fix – but seriously, this game has enough structural problems as it is. Can we please please PLEASE stop deliberately breaking the fundamental rules of the game? Everybody?
If you wanted to run the game, why didn't you?

Also, you too forgot to add drealmer7 to that list, which continues to strike me as odd. Maybe Vitek's selective memory loss is spreading! (Will we all be infected over time? Gasp!)

Ah well, waiting around for people to think of something to say gets dull fast. Maybe drealmer7 and Vitek can put their heads together and come up with something later.

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Request to the mod - as much as it amuses me to see other people trying to run your game for you, if you could put out a concrete ruling on this when you can, it'd be much appreciated. If you're going to kill me off (while making sure to include Ix and exclude drealmer7 as people keep making sure to emphasize), I'd rather know sooner than later.
Thank you. =)
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drealmer7: Of course, he could be an intruder and playing deep mind-fuck games, but I really don't feel that this is true, nothing solid, it just doesn't feel true, it would be a deep game he is playing, which is possible, but I don't really see that in him as of now (which means if it is what he is doing, he's doing it GREAT.) Hence why I say we might not have a choice at this point but to go ahead and eliminate him and then see where we're at, but again, I'm just not comfortable with it.
So, he might be guilty, but you don't think so. However, we might as well lynch him to be sure? Right.
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CarrionCrow: If you wanted to run the game, why didn't you?
Um, because it wasn't my turn?

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CarrionCrow: Also, you too forgot to add drealmer7 to that list, which continues to strike me as odd. Maybe Vitek's selective memory loss is spreading! (Will we all be infected over time? Gasp!)
As has already been pointed out to you, drealmer's edit was two posts merged due to the 10 minute rule. Unless you can find a place where he pointed out a deliberate edit?

And settle down - I'm not saying you should be modkilled! I don't want anybody modkilled at this point!

I'm just asking for you and everybody else to stop deliberately breaking the rules going forward. Can we agree to this? Please?
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CarrionCrow: If you wanted to run the game, why didn't you?
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yogsloth: Um, because it wasn't my turn?

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CarrionCrow: Also, you too forgot to add drealmer7 to that list, which continues to strike me as odd. Maybe Vitek's selective memory loss is spreading! (Will we all be infected over time? Gasp!)
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yogsloth: As has already been pointed out to you, drealmer's edit was two posts merged due to the 10 minute rule. Unless you can find a place where he pointed out a deliberate edit?

And settle down - I'm not saying you should be modkilled! I don't want anybody modkilled at this point!

I'm just asking for you and everybody else to stop deliberately breaking the rules going forward. Can we agree to this? Please?
Hmm. Fair enough, didn't know there was a rotation. How much of a wait is there, usually? Already kicking around an idea for a game with some modifications to it, might sign up if it coalesces a bit more.

Okay. No matter how much it makes my teeth gnash (and it really, really does), even if I screw up a word utterly, I'll leave it. It's obviously a useful excuse for others to attempt to capitalize on.

Hopefully Quad shows up sometime soon so the horse can be beaten to its fullest and final extent. -laughs-
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yogsloth: I'm just asking for you and everybody else to stop deliberately breaking the rules going forward. Can we agree to this? Please?
Agreed.

Let's seal the pact by posting verbatim copy of our role PM.
I'll start...
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after the game ends.



@JMich; what's your overall take on "too-many-blockers" situation?
What do you think of drealmer and agent?
What about HijacK?
Do you think both agent and Hijack are telling truth?
If not who is the most likely scum here?


@HijacK; What about you?
What do you make of JMich and drealmer?
What about agent?
Do you think both agent and JMich can be telling truth?
If not who is the most likely scum here?
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JMich: This is just doing the best of a bad situation. While a lynch would have probably given us more info, we did get a bit of information during night 1.
Yeah, that's what I suggested and asked about people's views on way back before and you jumped on my case and pretty much put your foot down that a no-lynch scenario was had NOTHING GOOD AT ALL that could come of it (and then you voted contradictory to that stance.)

ARRGGHHH...moving on!

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yogsloth: For what it's worth, I read it both before and after the edit, and I can't find the difference. Must have been a typo minor enough for me to gloss over.

But yeah, cc, even though you want out - trying to deliberately provoke modkill is not the way to do it, OK?
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CarrionCrow: -laughs- If I wanted out fully, I'd have either kept going til I did get that modkill, or I would have effectively killed my own character off.

Figuring a flamingo attack is a small price to pay for that post not bugging the shit out of me.
This kind of makes me think like your threatened quitting and people asking you to stay could have been part of some intruder-like staging (which of course there was some genuine askings as well, so, if this is true, I wonder which were part of the stage, or maybe none were and it was just a solo endeavour that worked out for CC. Just theories.)


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CarrionCrow: Hmm. Drealmer7 mentions again and again and again that they want my input on who's guilty, and what happens when I put something forward, what do they latch onto solely? My edit of a typo, that I acknowledged doing as well as why I did it.

That's interesting to me. To totally ignore the information, then make a show of "hey look at them, look at them, look at what they're doing!"
You wouldn't be trying to bury what I said, would you, drealmer7? =)
Please link where you are referring to. And again, you are putting too strong of words to it and spinning what I said. Not cool. I want IDEAS of who you SUSPECT MIGHT be an intruder and reasons are good too but not entirely necessary. I'm not demanding you to VOTE NOW.

You also have to realize that an intruder or someone doing shady behavior would say the same thing as you did with your innocent mistake (which I don't need convincing of being true, I saw the pre-edit version myself, it's still not cool behavior to edit your stuff INTENTIONALLY, especially when you go on to make a precident that you really need to edit your typos for a time when you don't get caught being nefarious. It's BAD PLAY. STOP. Take it as threats in gameplay if you like, it is not, this is me, a player, asking for there to be A FAIR GAME.)

Just theories.



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CarrionCrow: I was hoping for a post to make a gap. Thank you, RW.

Come on, drealmer7, you have got to think faster. The turnaround from my statement to your overblown response, a response that wasn't a replay, which means you've been watching the thread rather than solely responding to posts directed at you, was 4 minutes. Now at 10 minutes, and not so much as a single word?

Getting tongue-tied at bad moments isn't the best of ideas. The longer it takes you to manage some kind of response (in all probability a similarly overblown one with lots of caps for attempted emphasis), the guiltier you look.
Woah, and now you are being wholly antagonistic. I left after I made my entry, made my partner and I lunch and watched a movie before we both become more occupied with things for the day. You are being totally intruder-like now.

Just quit editing your posts, okay? Do it again and I will ask for a mod-kill on the spot. I have done it ONCE, at the very beginning, was the first person to do it, and I immediately made all known what happened, and it CERTAINLY wasn't intentional. You are trying to defer attention from yourself and your own actions. I see why you don't post much perhaps, because the more and more you do, the more and more intruder-like you seem.



Ooo look, yogsloth has contributed wonderfully. I'll read and respond accordingly to that when I have time.


Yes, quite a bit more to address it seems upon looking more. I'll break these posts up for reading. More in the next one about what unfolded prior to yogsloths analysis, then the responses to yogsloth will probably have to wait until tonight.
I see Carrion's point, an edited post is an edit whether if a word was changed or not. The rule is for any edited post, so if anyone is mod killed over an edited post then all who have edited a post should be mod killed.

Now I don't want anyone to be mod killed, maybe some sort of other punishment like Quad has already been doing is fine. Now if Quad steps in and says the next edited post is an automatic mod kill no matter what then I can see only the one mod kill.
10 mins, and a refresh and trentonlf posted anyway, cool!


Okay, I see a lot more has been said about the editing so I definitely don't feel the need to say more. Just so my position is clear for you CC, I don't currently want you modkilled (in case you weren't clear about my position after my previous entry, which in no way was calling for you to be modkilled, though it is well within reasonability), but will if you do it again, claimed intentional OR accidental.

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drealmer7: Of course, he could be an intruder and playing deep mind-fuck games, but I really don't feel that this is true, nothing solid, it just doesn't feel true, it would be a deep game he is playing, which is possible, but I don't really see that in him as of now (which means if it is what he is doing, he's doing it GREAT.) Hence why I say we might not have a choice at this point but to go ahead and eliminate him and then see where we're at, but again, I'm just not comfortable with it.
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Krypsyn: So, he might be guilty, but you don't think so. However, we might as well lynch him to be sure? Right.
Not quite. It is a hard read at this point is my point, there are arguments for either way, obviously, and it's a tough call, I'm really not sure what to do about that, except maybe focus on a different potential intruder (which is why I turn to the possibility of someone voting for him also being an intruder) What do you/others think we should do about that? Trying to have a discussion is all.
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yogsloth: I would just like everyone to note that Krypsyn didn’t jump all over this. That’s a Town tell, Krypsyn. Just to ease your surprise in other games. So ya know.
I have strategically placed quite a few town tells in this game.
I just realized in my roleblocker analysis above, I completely skipped the set of possibilities where HijacK's claim is completely false, and he has no jailer/roleblock ability at all.

Probably doesn't make a material difference, as my conclusion remains the same - acquire another set of data points to sort it out Day 3.
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drealmer7: Yes, me quitting was all a tactic. It was orchestrated, all the way down to psychically influencing Hijack and RW to have conflict to the point that RW wanted to quit, at which point I decided to stay since I knew Quad didn't have much chance of replacing two more people, and not wanting town to take a hit from members getting killed outright.
Ya got me. -puts hands up in surrender while stifling laughter- ;)

Construe it however you want, how it came out was how it came out.

Hmm. Weren't you the one who said negative aspects were part of the game? I guess it's about being a little, but not a lot. Being antagonistic is part of the gameplay. Are you wanting me to play differently?

Once again, ya got me. Total guilt here. You are just sharp as a tack right now. =) I am in fact attempting to draw attention away from myself, because as EVERYONE knows, the very BEST way to do so is to in fact DRAW MORE ATTENTION to myself and my ACTIONS. Maybe I am just HOPING that the other players all suffer temporary BLINDNESS so they won't notice ME doing IT.

(Sorry, couldn't help it. Won't do that again, though. Putting certain words in caps makes me feel silly.)

But, in all seriousness, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for explaining it TO me.

(Damn it. Okay, for real this time. No more CAPS.

Shit...)

And yes, it's very intruder-like to put someone on the SPOT after they've gone after you while they selectively disregarded information.

(Goddamnit...bad fingers! Bad! You're working for the scum team, aren't you? Aren't you!?!?!?!)

Actually, I was tending to not post much because the RP garbage was making my eyes glaze Over.

(Come on now, only one letter? That doesn't even make sense. Either do it fully or not at all, fingers.)

But that's okay. If you want me dead, put evidence together and try it. =)
Carrion you are awesome LOL
Unvote: adaliabooks
Vote: flubbucket

Reasons are for sissies.