I'm not.

DAMN eyes, playing tricks on me. Sorry.

My demands were not real demands, but bait to see what you would say. A good captain knows when to reveal information and when to not. I agree that now is not the time, and am glad you told us no more. If you had, I would have found you more suspect. Now, I'm starting to trust you a bit more.

I don't know what happened to crewdroog, they may have been unconscious (read, crewdroog is MIA and so their absence from the final vote may be irrelevant to RWarehalls point, though, I do find crewdroogs previous behavior rather scummy, and I REALLY want to hear more about what bookwrym has to say about the unfoldings of the previous day.) I find your list to be maybe 50%-75% accurate, however, as, I don't think every single intruder would be absent from the final voting hour, that would be too weird.

I am going to have to re-read the goings on between you and HijacK to discern more, which I don't have the time for right now.

Do you really find HijacK to be the most likely intruder? Can you detail why again or should I just go back? It's healthy for us all to question each other and try and draw the truth out, I find it likely that that is all he was doing, again, I must go back and read, but would like to hear your points point by point simply clearly on him for intruder candidate.

That assumes of course that the attempt to lynch Flub would have revealed them as scum. It's funny that not voting as others want you to automatically is deemed suspicious behavior. Always thought thinking for myself was a good thing.

Kudos on the dramatic presentation, though. ;)

Is it really?

noob ;)

-laughs- In all likelihood, it's going to get me killed at some point. Now idly wondering if it'll be scum, or if my own townspeople will decide to do it. Probably the townspeople.

You're confusing the point AND making it sound diabolical, how intruder-like of you. Kudos on your drama delivery, too.

It's not about "not voting as others want" it's about not working together as a group to do the nasty deed that we all know needs done. It's about all the positioning and talking about no-lynch and you and others essentially voting for a no-lynch by way of your vote. AND you voted for agentcarr16...really?!! wtf?!

Do you find it likely that all 4 intruders were voting flubbucket yet not enough of the crew were behind it still? That doesn't add suspicion to flubbucket, rather, it simply means that more likely someone who DIDN'T vote is an intruder. 1 or 2 probably? More?

To me if feels as if the intruders orchestrated it in order to save one of their own.


very LAMIST, imo.

Actually, that's exactly what it was. The statement was "suspect those who didn't vote for the person that other people did".

This isn't a group exercise. (Well, not if you're town, anyway.) It's a bunch of individuals who are only bound by the same end goal.

At this point, it's still hard to say since there are still so many people.

No, not particularly. If you're scum, who do you kill off first? The experienced, or the inexperienced? I'd say that I run a higher chance of townspeople getting the bright idea to kill me off for whatever reason, with scum pushing it over the edge because it's convenient, rather than being singled out ahead of people who've played more than one day of one game.

Yes, yt was general in that sense, but I find it to be true for a few on that list, so I can see what he means by the statement, even if he stated it as a generalization. It's a reasonable thing to consider, I think, that some may not have changed their votes because they were protecting flubbucket from a lynch, and I think that is all he was asking us to do.
I heartily disagree! It is certainly a group exercise for the entire crew. We are in it together, plain and simple. We MUST work together and therefore it is a group exercise.

Yes, definitely true, as far as likelihoods go, anyway.

Going to try posting this again. If it comes up double, my apologies. The forum froze up when I tried to send it the first time.

In the scenario that you mentioned, two people being scum makes sense. It gives the voting enough weight for people to feel more stable about voting along. One wouldn't be enough, three or more would be too obvious.

Is there at least one person out of the six who's scum? Probably. Six out of sixteen beats one in four odds.

It can't be a group exercise since the innocent people all still suspect each other. Can't really get a group dynamic going when you have to keep information to yourself because you don't want to spill it to scum.

As far as it goes, in my opinion the replacement players are getting a bit screwed by the situation. I think there's a good chance they're both scum, and they got pegged as such before they even had a chance to look even more suspicious (which one of them went on to do, presumably as a way of throwing up enough smoke to make the situation murky and possibly save them from being taken out) than the original players did to begin with.

Indeed.
Hmm, that's peculiar.

I can't bring myself to vote you based only on PM comparsion's after last time.
Hmmm, but maybe we would get some confirmations from it again...

FYI, Quadr is progressive mod and we don't have to unvote in this game. ;-)


I took a new look at the game during the night and I concluded some of you might be scum.

That is certainly a fair assessment.

I am doing my best.

I think you can do better! :þ