Posted September 18, 2015
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
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JMich
A Horrible Human Person. If you need me, chat.
Registered: Apr 2011
From Greece
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trentonlf
Easily amused
Registered: Apr 2014
From United States
Posted September 18, 2015
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There are such reasons. Question is always what can be gained by a mass claim, versus what will be revealed.
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On an unrelated note, I was incorrect when I said JMich was killed by my bomb in the Grand Oaks Gallow's game. JMich was killed by yogsloth and Flub was protected by a bomb shelter. My apologies to the mod.
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dedoporno
A bloody pirate!
Registered: Apr 2012
From Bulgaria
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trentonlf
Easily amused
Registered: Apr 2014
From United States
Posted September 18, 2015
Going on 20 hours back and no BlueMooner, Sage, Cristi, or Hijack :-/
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HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
Registered: Sep 2011
From Vatican City
Posted September 18, 2015
Ah...!
Where have I heard this before...
dedoporno: [...] I don't know about others but I'm not playing solely to win but to have fun in the process. [...] The most appealing part for me is the journey. Sure, it's nice to win, but I don't mind losing, that's the nature of the game.
As I said, I don't have any experience with mass claiming, so I could be wrong, but I do think that at this point, in this game, this is not the right time.
@trentonlf, am I to assume that you won't answer my last question to you?
Where have I heard this before...
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As I said, I don't have any experience with mass claiming, so I could be wrong, but I do think that at this point, in this game, this is not the right time.
@trentonlf, am I to assume that you won't answer my last question to you?
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted September 18, 2015
Oops, missed this one on the new page.
I don't know, why don't you tell me?
I have been in one game where a game-breaking strategy was employed. It was the 'Assassin in the Palace' game, and I was actually the instigator of the game-braking strategy. The strategy was to just lynch, one by one, each player, with each person to be lynched picking the next target, until the Assassin was lynched by dumb luck. It worked, of course, but it pretty much sapped the fun out of the game for everyone involved. So, I have decided I just don't like to employ such strategies, even if it is obviously the best choice; game breaking strategies usually are, after all.
I don't know, why don't you tell me?
I have been in one game where a game-breaking strategy was employed. It was the 'Assassin in the Palace' game, and I was actually the instigator of the game-braking strategy. The strategy was to just lynch, one by one, each player, with each person to be lynched picking the next target, until the Assassin was lynched by dumb luck. It worked, of course, but it pretty much sapped the fun out of the game for everyone involved. So, I have decided I just don't like to employ such strategies, even if it is obviously the best choice; game breaking strategies usually are, after all.
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trentonlf
Easily amused
Registered: Apr 2014
From United States
Posted September 18, 2015
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HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
Registered: Sep 2011
From Vatican City
Posted September 18, 2015
The new page, and my post, took for ever to show. Forum's acting up again.
I would if I could remember. I will if it comes to me.
Krypsyn: [...]
I have been in one game where a game-breaking strategy was employed. It was the 'Assassin in the Palace' game, and I was actually the instigator of the game-braking strategy. The strategy was to just lynch, one by one, each player, with each person to be lynched picking the next target, until the Assassin was lynched by dumb luck. It worked, of course, but it pretty much sapped the fun out of the game for everyone involved. So, I have decided I just don't like to employ such strategies, even if it is obviously the best choice; game breaking strategies usually are, after all. That sounds like a chore. Why did you decide to go that route?
Do you consider everyone claiming in the very late game to still be a game-breaking strategy?
trentonlf: Sorry about that, I totally missed that question. There is a possibility of a neutral role in reference to flub, but I do tend to view most people as either town or scum with the neutral role going as scum. I don't like the use of the term "neutral" for third-parties, I don't think it's accurate.
So, if you view third-parties as scum, that means that you think that flubbucket is town, and I assume that it's not just his avatar that makes you think so. Would you share what it is that makes you believe he's town?
I would if I could remember. I will if it comes to me.
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I have been in one game where a game-breaking strategy was employed. It was the 'Assassin in the Palace' game, and I was actually the instigator of the game-braking strategy. The strategy was to just lynch, one by one, each player, with each person to be lynched picking the next target, until the Assassin was lynched by dumb luck. It worked, of course, but it pretty much sapped the fun out of the game for everyone involved. So, I have decided I just don't like to employ such strategies, even if it is obviously the best choice; game breaking strategies usually are, after all.
Do you consider everyone claiming in the very late game to still be a game-breaking strategy?
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So, if you view third-parties as scum, that means that you think that flubbucket is town, and I assume that it's not just his avatar that makes you think so. Would you share what it is that makes you believe he's town?
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Sage103082
Kitten Tamer: 8
Registered: Mar 2014
From United States
Posted September 18, 2015
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted September 18, 2015
It wasn't so bad. I went for it, because it was listed in the wiki as the "Pro-Town Strategy". So... since it was the 'best' way, I pushed for it. 'Best' doesn't mean 'more fun'.
When the game becomes a forgone conclusion to most, and players do it voluntarily to speed things along, then I have no problem with it.
When the game becomes a forgone conclusion to most, and players do it voluntarily to speed things along, then I have no problem with it.
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Sage103082
Kitten Tamer: 8
Registered: Mar 2014
From United States
Posted September 18, 2015
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Would love for sage, cristi, hijack to grace us though.
I vote for the first 3 spots. I am not a fan of claiming but I can see why some are for it so soon and I will go with whatever the group decides as a whole.
I am sorry work was busy today and tomorrow will be very very busy at work too. However I will be on and reading when I get off. Some people need to realize that work has to come first and only being at my job for a month I can not just get online and play around when I really wish i could.
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flubbucket
"Intoning"
Registered: Dec 2012
From Micronesia
Posted September 18, 2015
Just checking in before I hit the sack.
When I started playing this game some 10 or so years ago there was no reveal on NK, very few roles, no lynch was still a no-no, and it was fun. There were of course those players determined to suck the fun out of everything. I didn't make an issue I just moved on. So many sites I can't even remember.
One thing has remained fairly constant, I hate to role claim. I've done it for PGO and Miller reasons as well as Masons and such.
But I will not role claim now.
You will have to lynch me and then line up to thank yogsloth.
When I started playing this game some 10 or so years ago there was no reveal on NK, very few roles, no lynch was still a no-no, and it was fun. There were of course those players determined to suck the fun out of everything. I didn't make an issue I just moved on. So many sites I can't even remember.
One thing has remained fairly constant, I hate to role claim. I've done it for PGO and Miller reasons as well as Masons and such.
But I will not role claim now.
You will have to lynch me and then line up to thank yogsloth.
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mchack
more than enough!
Registered: Dec 2014
From Germany
Posted September 18, 2015
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Well, it got me thinking and while really I would like to win this with town, I also want to enjoy the game (and enjoying it I do alot, thanks RWarehall for letting me play), so I won't be pushing for a massclaim anymore (and I hope the suggestion, will be put down as another newbie thing to do and won't get me lynched ;)
But while enjoying the game without breaking it we can still win this, I'm sure. There just may be more casualties and in the process more fun :D hopefully.
Still thanks for the backup. It's good for me to not feel completely stupid bringing it up... You made my day :) (oh you and alqadim that is :D